aek21 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 The thing with the young players like tavlaridis and Gekas is they lack experience, when tavlaridis played he looked very nervous and nervous players make mistakes. At the moment many people have seen youth as a solution to the recent dip in form. I think the team is just a little worn out, many players had a busy year traveling and ajusting to new teams and countries. I'm sure otto is now looking to guys who have some composure and that still have energy to burn. Stoltidis and Antzas should be the next players I'd hope to see called-up. the reason why I think the teams that Dellas wants (big teams) are hesitating on picking him up is because of injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympiakosthyra7 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 wake up and score a goal ELLASS!! GOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aekrossoponti Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 yes but kapsis, kiriakos, basinas, nikopolidis also made many mistakes... plus tavlaridis is young but he is not that young. in greece and for otto especially everyone under 30 is young, which is ridiculous. hes the only player apart from stelios who is in regular action in a top league. you are right about the worn ou part. they have played too many games. antzas and stoltidis when? stoltidis is 30 years old. will he start his international career with 32??if we don t replace "without a club and in bad form" basinas with stoltidis now, we never will. i think you shouldn t underate kafes. he is wasted as a defensive midfielder were otto and dusko had him. in an offensive role he made great games for paok. could be the sleeper of our team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyTheGreek Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I don't understand why so many people still even have Charisteas on their starting 11. The guy hasn't scored, much less set up a goal in the past how many matches? I understand his position at Ajax; he should have been scoring in pretty much every other game in order to get any playing time; the Dutch league is pretty anal that way. But he's got ZERO creativity, and if the only reason we've got him on is as a striker/finisher, we're doomed. At least with Themistoklis, we had a striker that could shoot, pass, dribble, draw fouls, and create space. Charisteas is the Cha-Du-Ri of Greek soccer. As for Lymberopoulos, I don't see that Otto has much choice but to give him a second-half start. He couldn't do much worse. I'm really pissed off at Otto; he's been sticking to the same strategy since last year, and though it yielded results then (add a little bit of luck to that mix), if it hasn't been working for the past six games, what's to think it'll work now? Is the absence of Dellas and the repositioning of Stelios and Basinas really screwing up the team that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evalagoal Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I don't understand why so many people still even have Charisteas on their starting 11. The guy hasn't scored, much less set up a goal in the past how many matches? I understand his position at Ajax; he should have been scoring in pretty much every other game in order to get any playing time; the Dutch league is pretty anal that way. But he's got ZERO creativity, and if the only reason we've got him on is as a striker/finisher, we're doomed. At least with Themistoklis, we had a striker that could shoot, pass, dribble, draw fouls, and create space. Charisteas is the Cha-Du-Ri of Greek soccer. As for Lymberopoulos, I don't see that Otto has much choice but to give him a second-half start. He couldn't do much worse. I'm really pissed off at Otto; he's been sticking to the same strategy since last year, and though it yielded results then (add a little bit of luck to that mix), if it hasn't been working for the past six games, what's to think it'll work now? Is the absence of Dellas and the repositioning of Stelios and Basinas really screwing up the team that much? JohnnytheGreek,I was thinking like you were but Otto is starting to see that the "11" that won the Euro arent' getting the job done. What I'm thinking as far as his stratagy is..... Is that he's going to easy into it. Meaning that he's going to be bringing in player into the NT slowly. Plus he's a HUGE fan of players playing abroad, and as you and I know... there's not that many players abroad of good quality. It's going to take some-time and we as Greeks need to be patient with his decisions. For the moment we have to hope for the best agaisnts the Kazakstanians and get maximim points from this game. Our lineup this weekend will score and will win the game.... :tup: :gr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC_Olympiakos Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 so the game will start 9am in NYC at least thats before my classes in school start lets beat Kaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgios10 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 To King Otto He has stuck with the same guys since Euro. The differecnce with Euro is that Greece was nobody and none of the teams were able to adjust to the ir defending and counter attacking. Since then, everyone has adjusted. No speed up front with Vryzas and charisteas. They need someone who can run at these defences (Salpigiddis, :tup: but he has no experience at that level). Dellas missing for all these games was crucial. I think King Otto should have played with some different lineups at Confederations Cup. Greece have looked tired everygame and look like they have no steam, and Otto doen not khelp them out with any changes!! We will wait and see, I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korisos Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 so the game will start 9am in NYC at least thats before my classes in school start lets beat Kaz not for me it looks like i'll have to skip some classes to catch the game but it's only the 1st week out of 13 weeks of class so i don't give a s hit :tup: my final thoughts about the selection is that gekas should get axed for amanatidis and the other change i would have wanted was to see was tav to replace anatolakis cos he's playing regular football in a more competitive league despite a recent bust up w/ the coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick13 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 rehakel will leave a major hole after he leaves! it will take a long time cause i see all the 30+ defenders-midfielders-forwards still in and i dont think he will change that until we fail to go to the WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Alright with Turkey drawing 2-2 with Denmark, this leaves Greece with its future (wc2006) in there own hands..... They Must and i mean Must win all 3 games, including Denmark because we r the European champs, and we better start acting like it with the first game against Kazakhstan.... i expect a minimum of 2-0 for Greece as i belive they will be pumped up for a good result.... Reason why i chose 2-0 was because im being realistic with our late dramas of not scoring.... Ellas!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Protathlitis Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE KAZAKS UKRAINE ONLY BEAT THEM 1-0 IN THE 90' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphoria Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Qualification is in our hands now, not Turkey's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plato-ny Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I wouldnt be surprised if we dont beat kaz because of the euphoria of today Turkey's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC_Olympiakos Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 so the game will start 9am in NYC at least thats before my classes in school start lets beat Kaz not for me it looks like i'll have to skip some classes to catch the game but it's only the 1st week out of 13 weeks of class so i don't give a s hit :tup: my final thoughts about the selection is that gekas should get axed for amanatidis and the other change i would have wanted was to see was tav to replace anatolakis cos he's playing regular football in a more competitive league despite a recent bust up w/ the coach for me its kinda perfect i got class at 12:20 that day at St. John's which is only 5 mins from Oasis lol King Otto was in Turkey today scouting Denmark he said that a bit of pressure has been lifted but we need to win no doubt about it who would have every thought since Euro 2004 that our biggest game to date is v Kaz we don't win we our done period so lets win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympiakara10 Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 so the game will start 9am in NYC at least thats before my classes in school start lets beat Kaz Damn, 9 AM? That sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick13 Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE KAZAKS UKRAINE ONLY BEAT THEM 1-0 IN THE 90' 2-1 in the 96 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panathinaikos_Trifilli Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 6-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDmagic Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Our first win in the group was against Kazakstan 3-1 and that began the 4 game winning streak ;) I say ELLAS 4-0 with another winning streak about to begin again :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GreekSoussou Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I'll take a three game winning streak this time instead of four. :tup: :gr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panathinaikos_Trifilli Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I'll take a three game winning streak this time instead of four. :tup: :gr: dont forget the play-off, and then the world cup, il'd go for 12 game winning streak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evergreen Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Can anyone make out who signed her left breast? :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panathinaikos_Trifilli Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 i dont know, but why is georgey not signing the right one? ANTE RE GEORGIOS, VOUTA MESA!!! :D :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evalagoal Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Can anyone make out who signed her left breast? :tup: Who ever did it is the S*** :D :tup: :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evergreen Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 i dont know, but why is georgey not signing the right one? ANTE RE GEORGIOS, VOUTA MESA!!! :D :D :D He's newly married, I don't think the missus would be too pleased if he did that :nono: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korisos Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 i think i see a number 10 there. what # does anatolakis wear? cos i don't remember any #10 on the team and he's the new player. maybe giourkas should sign the right side and soto up the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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