LaputanMachine

Bouchalakis never looked good, and we always lose when he plays. Sokratis should definitely start. Manolas and Siovas were not even better against Italy. In fact, Manolas and Siovas were terrible.

They are winners , with a winner mentality. We, on the other hand, have a big loser mentality. Heads down, and no passion. That's what I'd criticize the most.

Limnios, Greek champion = ignored Lamprou = 8 goalds, 10 assists in the Netherlands = ignored Instead we see guys like Kolovos, Bakasetas, Masouras...

They beat Liechtenstein 6:0 and Finnland 2:0. Italy is still a world class team, and they knew exactly how to take advantage of our weaknesses (right side, non-existing midfield).

nearly impossible. didn't matter anymore

Cause he sucks.

Accept reality? Like ignoring Lamprou, Limnios? Playing guys like Kourbelis, Kolovos, Bakasetas, etc does not make them our best players.

Samaris, Zeca, Kourbelis are just way too slow. This is our worst midfield in over 10 years.

Paschalakis has a great leader mentality. Vlachodimos is definitely our best keeper. But we play with Barkas? I am not sure about that tbh. Rest looks okay.

I have nothing against him, and he shows a lot of passion playing for the Ethniki. He also had every right to obtain Greek citizenship. But I don't hope this will become the norm, and we naturalize people just so they can play for us. This is not club football, it's the national football team.

A draw would be HUGE, especially if Italy manages to win against Bosnia and we get a win against Armenia.

Lamprou would be a great replacement for Donis. But Angelos seems to ignore him. The exact opposite would happen. Zeca is way too slow for an RB. Guys like Kean, Shaaraway, Insigne, etc would expose him, and have a big party on his side.

We should definitely consider Sokratis at RB. This guy plays at a high level for years now. Can't trust the likes of Mavrias & Kotsiras to do the job. I mean we are talking about players from the 6th placed team of Cyprus and the 11the placed team of Greece. This is Italy we are playing. Anyway, a draw would be HUGE for us. If we lose we just have to hope Bosnia loses as well against them.

We should rather strengthen our defense.

I'd leave Estonia out of there. For the obvious reason.

Me too, haha. Just watched it 2 days ago. this reaction is also good. Toumba begins at 2:47

Some can play in the center and on the wings, and some don't. Mantalos can't. Not in AEK, and not for the Ethniki. Pelkas however is not the issue in our national team at all. Him on the left or right side is not ideal, but it is not the main issue Greece has. It's the lack of good DMs or CMs in general. And Pelkas could be a good option right next to someone like Zeca (or someone better, if we had one). Fetfatzidis has never done anything for us. EVER! He should try and play more consistent from now on. He is one of the guys who can have a great match (like against Milan) and then disappear for the next 10 games. There is a reason he only got to be a starter in Saudi Arabia, and nowhere else.

I don't think Bakasetas is any good, but Mantalos and especially Pelkas are good enough for us. They just aren't wingers! You can't expect them to shine on this position. Pelkas should be used as an 8 right behind Fortounis. Defensively he is much better than those useless players like Tziolis anyway.

Merry Christmas :) Here is the big problem: We lack players who are successful at international level. There's Sokratis and Manolas. And that's about it. Our CM is the biggest problem, and there is no big difference between players like Bouchalakis, Tziolis, Zeca, Kourbelis, etc. We simply lack someone good there. There is only a handful of good players in the Super League, like Fortounis, Pelkas, Fetfatzidis, and perhaps Koulouris and Koutris. Not including our U21 player. They need to develop first.

This is complete nonsense. Most players in the Ethniki are not AEK or PAOK players and we still get very bad results.

Our young talents are looking good. Pablo is making real men out of them!

And what's stopping them from training even harder to eventually not ride the bench, but actually play? Being lazy won't get you far, especially as a professional football player.

That's exactly what the issue is.

Oh man. i totally forgot that we LOST to Estonia.

Nations League system is really flawed. We are in a group with Finland. Let's say they need a win against us in the last game and we have no chance to qualify anymore. We can just let them win and take their spot at the Nations League Play-Offs. I doubt it will come to this, but this is a very flawed system.