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An Italian referee will be in charge and already people from both sides have started moaning. There is no hope. We actually deserve another 20 years of red paragka.

At least this way he gets to focus on his used car business.

I dreamt that we got knocked out.

This is incorrect. There are many stadiums in Europe that have standing only in certain parts. The Commerzbank Arena (Eintracht Frankfurt and the Signal Iduna Park (Borussia Dortmund) are just a few examples and these teams play in Europe.

This is why gate 4 should be standing as everybody stands anyway. Only in gates 1,2,3,5 and 6 should there be a case for seating. I will leave the case open for 7 and 8.

I will be very honest here and say that seat allocation is a load of bull anyway. I have been to games where there were loads of empty seats around me yet some people insisted on sitting in the seats that I had just randomly sat on. If anything certain parts of stadiums should be standing. Gate 4, for example, should be all standing. The problem is educational. People in Greece are not able to go to a football match with both sets of fans without any trouble. I am not saying to become like the UK or (God forbid) the US (although I was fairly impressed with LAFC's fans), where the atmosphere is quite boring. At least be like Germany where the atmosphere in the stadium is great. Even there fans fight each other but just not in the stadium. If you really need to fight somebody else just because they support another team then find somewhere like a warehouse or the woods, arrange a time, and let all of your psychological issues out.

The thing is that when teams do it against Olympiakos we instantly jump and start pointing fingers. In fact I am sure that even the choosing which games to sit out rule no doubt was introduced to benefit Olympiakos. We have reached a point where we think everything is made/done to benefit them. That is when you know football is on its last knees.

Not being funny or anything but why 6 serving against us? They should really take away the rule that you can choose which games to serve. Just another flaw to the joke that is called Greek football.

Last season I would have been confident in our ability to turn this around. This seasons definitely not. Honestly it seems like there are two players for every one of us.

It’s the same case as the Aris game. They are running to the ball and shutting us down whereas we are just jogging. No urgency whatsoever.

Η ομάδα δεν βλέπεται πραγματικά.

The goal was rightfully cancelled, although all the others will say it wasn’t. Quite disappointed to hear PAO fans chanting some of those things, there is only one enemy.

Aaaaaand life goes on. Just as we all said it would.

To be honest I am just trying to understand your motive. The fact that you have immediately gone into defence mode tells me that you probably do not wish to be challenged. Are you Bulgarian or are you in fact a Hellene who just wants to point out all of the disfunctional aspects of modern Hellenic society that we are already aware of? I am not sure how you came to the conclusion of point 4. In fact I don't know why you wrote point 3 either.

Dude, what is your goal on this forum? Most, if not all, of your posts are anti-Hellenic.

24 hours to go and the time just isn't passing quick enough.

Τα αγόρια τι παίζουν δηλαδή;

sport24 (unless I am mistaken) is controlled by our red friends. Either read sdna.gr or don't bother reading anything at all. In fact I am on sport24 now and I cannot find anything with regards to Ilias Arkoudis or Eirini Maroupa. Just goes to show.

Which sites are you reading?

The EEA Board members are slowly pushing each other off the plank. Ilias Arkoudis explained that Eirini Maroupa told them about Savvidis owning Xanthi as "she went to Xanthi and made the judgement that not only did he have influence over the team but that it was actually his". I am not sure you can come to this judgement just by visiting the city, however Maroupa originally said that she went to Xanthi just for the day for one of her client's court hearings. Now she claims that she stayed there for a weekend and took photos of the stadium and the hotel. Arkoudis says the decision is based on Maroupa's judgement. Maroupa says that Arkoudis made the case for PAOK and Xanthi to be relegated. All this without any solid proof. If I were PAE PAOK I would take them all to the cleaners as this is beyond a joke. UEFA and FIFA must not accept the change in law.

Just as the law is changed, court proceedings begin for the case that has been delayed for years. What a coincidence.

I don't know whether you're doing this on purpose or whether you just have a complex with PAOK. None of us want the law to be changed. The change has been made to favour Olympiakos. Wake up!

I am afraid it is a sad story of killing it in the league and failing miserably in Europe.

No offence but you have no clue what is going on in Greece. I don't know which team you support but this whole thing has been for the benefit of Olympiacos and them only. Everyone has said that if we are guilty then we should be relegated.

Yianko, ασε τα ερπετούλια να χαίρονται. Τώρα που ανήκουν επίσημα στην κόκκινη αρμάδα δεν τους έμεινε τίποτ'άλλο.