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Possibly Lithoksoou is amateur.  Do we have another and better source?  Which one?

Let us look at the existing data:

1. Greece is full with villages that  are or were called Arachova.  Who created these names? 

2. In Eurytania there is a  gorge named Helidona.  Before its name was Lastovo.  In the slavic idioms  last=swallow=χελιδόνι

The slavic toponyms imply that at some time there were Slavic speakers  in the area.

3)  The second Bulgarian empire included part of the Greek Macedonia (now). One can assume that some Bulgarians moved to these areas.

4) In August 1903 there was an upriise, Ilinden, of the slavomakedones. They failed.

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I have the impression that your data are a bit off.  The data listed below come from the wikipedia

 

1. The Japanese had several quaint beliefs: such as

   a) First you attack and then you declare war

   b) The men in the conquered lands could be treated as slaves

   c) The women in the conquered could be honored by serving in brothels for the heroic Japanese soldiers.

2. Before the use of atomic bombs

   a) The Vice Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy General Staff, Vice Admiral Takijirō Ōnishi, predicted up to 20 million Japanese deaths.

   b) There were several studies of the USA about the American casualties. The first estimated 130,000 and 220,000 U.S. casualties, of which 25,000 to 46,000 deaths

   c) The USA was tracking the defensive preparations of Japan,Japanese. A second study estimated

   1.7-4 millons American casualties; of them 400K-800K would be deaths. The fatalities of the Japanese were between 5M and 10M.

3. There was an agreement with the UK; use of nuclear weapons would not be used against another country without mutual consent. The UK consented.

4. The deaths by bombing are estimated as 129,000–226,000

5. The survivors of the bombings (and affected by the bombing) were ~650K according the Japanese government. As of March 31, 2018, 154,859 were still alive,

6. There were indirect consequences; I do not know they can be assessed.

7. The directly affected were at most 226+650K=876K

8. The cold numbers suggest the use of atomic bombs saved lives.

9. In a sane world Truman would have received the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

[Macedonia Name Dispute]

Possibly Lithoksoou is amateur.  Do we have another and better source?  Which one?

Let us look at the existing data:

1. Greece is full with villages that  are or were called Arachova.  Who created these names? 

2. In Eurytania there is a  gorge named Helidona.  Before its name was Lastovo.  In the slavic idioms  last=swallow=χελιδόνι

The slavic toponyms imply that at some time there were Slavic speakers  in the area.

3)  The second Bulgarian empire included part of the Greek Macedonia (now). One can assume that some Bulgarians moved to these areas.

4) In August 1903 there was an upriise, Ilinden, of the slavomakedones. They failed.

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There was a fellow who served as USA-president and was not a member of the upper class either before or after his presidency: Harry Truman

 

1. His father was a farmer and mule trader

2. He could not afford a college education

3. He worked a variety of jobs after high school, first as a timekeeper for a

   railroad construction company, and as a clerk and a bookkeeper at two separate banks in Kansas City. After five years, he returned to farming and joined the National Guard.

4. When World War I erupted, Truman volunteered for duty. Though he was 33 years-old—two years older than the age limit for the draft—and eligible for exemption as a farmer, he helped organize his National Guard regiment, which was ultimately called into service in the 129th Field Artillery

5. in 1919 he made a foray into business when he and an associate,  set up a hat shop in Kansas City. The business failed in 1922. With the closing of the business, Truman owed $20,000 to creditors. He refused to accept bankruptcy and insisted on paying back all the money he borrowed, which took more than 15 years.

6. Truman was elected to the United States Senate in 1934

7. In 1944 FDR wanted as his running mate Henry Wallace. The rank and file liked Wallace. Nevertheless, the insiders disliked him and it was apparent that Roosevelt might not survive his fourth term. A reluctant Truman was nominated and became the running mate of Roosevelt

8. Truman was a segregationist. Nevertheless, the president Truman (a) established by executive order the President’s Committee on Civil Rights. The committee was instructed to investigate the status of civil rights in the United States and propose measures to strengthen and protect the civil rights of American citizens. (b) was the first president to address the NAACP,July 29, 1947 (c) On February 2, 1948, Truman sent a  Special Message to Congress on Civil Rights, in which he requested that Congress implement the committee’s recommendations and (d) On July 26, 1948, issued Executive Order 9981, banning segregation of the Armed Forces. .

   The question now is if the presidency transformed Truman into the upper class. I do not think so.

9. The Washington Post Music Critic Paul Hume reviewed Margaret Truman's singing performance at Constitution Hall as follows:

"Miss Truman is a unique American phenomenon with a pleasant voice of little size and fair quality; she cannot sing very well,is flat a good deal of the time, more last night than at any time we have heard her in past years,has not improved in the years we have heard her and still cannot sing with anything approaching professional finish."

President Truman responded with the following letter to Hume:

I've just read your lousy review of Margaret's concert. …...."

It seems to me that you are a frustrated old man who wishes he could have been successful. When you write such poppy-cock as was in the back section of the paper you work for it shows conclusively that you're off the beam ...

Some day I hope to meet you. When that happens you'll need a new nose, a lot of beefsteak for black eyes, and perhaps a supporter below!

(Hume sold this letter in 1951, for $3,500.

 

On the balance, the ”low-class” Truman was a pretty a good president.

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I was visited by Gabriel last night.  According to him Jesus is confused.

 Was He upper class  and important or  low  class and irrelevant?

 

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In the Guardian (09/26/2018) we read

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Lesbos refugee camp at centre of Greek misuse of EU funds row

European anti-fraud agency investigates irregularities after report alleges defence minister benefited from camp funds

Tensions mounted after the defence minister, Panos Kammenos, filed a defamation action against three journalists, including the editor-in-chief of the Fileleftheros daily, after the publication of a report alleging misuse of EU funds. Kammenos, who heads the leftist-led government’s junior partner, the right wing populist Anel, accused the newspaper of defamation after it linked him to businessmen who had benefited from funds intended to improve living conditions in the camp.

........... “Asylum seekers are expected to live in conditions that do not meet humanitarian standards. Approximately 84 people share one shower. Approximately 72 people share one toilet,” said the IRC report. “The sewage system is so overwhelmed that raw sewage has been known to reach the mattresses where children sleep, and flows untreated into open drains and sewers.”

........................... Kyriakos Mitsotakis, said in a statement. “Greece has received €1.6bn in funding and the government has created the worst refugee and migrant camp in the world … instead of apologising the government is intimidating and persecuting anyone who is critical of its actions.

Today we can read in the iefimerida (in Greek, self translated, somewhat ungrammatical):

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"Bombs" was launched by the Director of the Migration Policy Department, Andreas Iliopoulos, for the government's immigration policy.

Dimitris Vitsas, deputy general of the Minister of Immigration Policy, admits in the newspaper "Phileleftheros" that there are indications of widespread mismanagement of funds by both the state mechanism and NGOs that manage Community funds. He says "that control has been lost, chaos prevails," and that the islands will soon resemble Edomeni.

It urges the European and Greek Authorities and Prosecutors to look for evidence and to carry out extensive research. At the same time, there is an alarm about the dangers of thousands of refugees and migrants in the plight of the Reception Centers under the responsibility of the government.

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1) After the end of the Peloponnesian war:

Athens surrendered in 404 BC. The surrender stripped Athens of its walls, its fleet, and all of its overseas possessions. Corinth and Thebes demanded that Athens should be destroyed and all its citizens should be enslaved. However, the Spartans announced their refusal to destroy a city that had done a good service at a time of greatest danger to Greece. and took Athens into their own system. Athens was "to have the same friends and enemies" as Sparta.[22]

(Possibly because a destroyed Athens would result in a strong Corinth and strong Thebes)

2) Let us look at the Alexander the great::

a) In 335 B.C. The Thebians revolted against the Macedonians; eventually they were defeated. Those who survived were sold (slaves) and the city was destroyed.

b) After the fall or Tyrus 2,000 Tyrians were  crucified; the rest ,, roughly 30,000,, were sold into slavery ….

c)..In the fall of 324 BC … Hephaestion fell ill with high fever and eventually died. The details are not known.

 Plutarch says that Hephaestion had ignored medical advice and as soon as his doctor, Glaucias, had gone off to the theatre, he ate a large breakfast consisting of a boiled fowl and a cooler of wine, and then fell sick and died.[7

According to Arrian Alexander had the doctor, Glaucias, executed for his lack of care.

I, for one, fail to understand why just everyone wants to claim Alexander as member of his ethnic group; I have even read texts (in the Internet) that claim that he was Muslim.

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On September 30 one could read in the Washington Post one could read the  review of a book titled Winners Take All: The Elite Charade; Charade of Changing the World. The first two paragraphs of the review can be read below:

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More than a century ago, Oscar Wilde outlined the danger posed by those trying hard to improve society. “Just as the worst slave-owners were those who were kind to their slaves, and so prevented the horror of the system being realized by those who suffered from it, and understood by those who contemplated it,” Wilde wrote, “so, in the present state of things in England, the people who do most harm are the people who try to do most good.”

In his impassioned new book, “Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World,” journalist Anand Giridharadas argues that the equivalent of today’s slaveholders are the elite citizens of the world, who are philanthropic more often than not — but in ways that ultimately serve only to protect and further their interests and cement the status quo. “For when elites assume leadership of social change, they are able to reshape what social change is — above all, to present it as something that should never threaten winners,” he writes.

 

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The irony is good but

1. The number 77  (above) and  the types of  rich/poor patterns of lying  (above) need some explaining.  
2. The statements of the Economist, if not true, must be shown to be false.
3. The  article that I quoted above is also claiming (right or wrong) that  

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     The French aristocracy, for instance, was endowed with privileges, primarily exemption from taxation. Today’s equivalents are not aristocrats, yet they have both the sense and the experience that the rules don’t really apply to them and that they can act without much concern for the consequences. Elite schools like Georgetown Prep and Yale have long cultivated this sensibility in conscious and unconscious ways.

   The statement above ,  if  true,  cannot  be explained with the  a**holes exist theory.   I, for one, hope that

1. The Republicans will understand how and why the bozo was nominated and
2. The Democrats will understand  how and why the bozo was elected 

The a**holes theory will not help anyone to avoid a new CatasTrumbia and/or WreCklintonia.

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1) Neither Bashibazuk nor Bashibzuk

BashibOzuk

 

2) While we were rhapsodizing about the upper class, Shamus Khan wrote an article (appeared today) in the Washington Post) under the title Kavanaught is lying, His upbringing explains why.

The article is not really about the present Kavanauthtian statements but it raises questions about the ethics of the upper American class. Namely,

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How could a man who appears to value honor and the integrity of the legal system explain this apparent mendacity? How could a man brought up in some of our nation’s most storied institutions — Georgetown Prep, Yale College, Yale Law School — dissemble with such ease? The answer lies in the privilege such institutions instill in their members, a privilege that suggests the rules that govern American society are for the common man, not the exceptional one.

Elite schools like Georgetown Prep and Yale have long cultivated this sensibility in conscious and unconscious ways.

What makes these schools elite is that so few can attend. In the mythologies they construct, only those who are truly exceptional are admitted — precisely because they are not like everyone else. Yale President Peter Salovey, for instance, has welcomed freshmen by telling them that they are “the very best students.” To attend these schools is to be told constantly: You’re special, you’re a member of the elect, you have been chosen because of your outstanding qualities and accomplishments.

Schools often quite openly affirm the idea that, because you are better, you are not governed by the same dynamics as everyone else. They celebrate their astonishingly low acceptance rates and broadcast lists of notable alumni who have earned their places within the nation’s highest institutions, such as the Supreme Court. I heard these messages constantly when I attended St. Paul’s, one of the most exclusive New England boarding schools, where boys and girls broke rules with impunity, knowing that the school would protect them from the police and that their families would help ensure only the most trivial of consequences.

This narrative of the exceptional student rests on a fiction with pathological consequences: Economist Raj Chetty has shown that children whose parents are in the top 1 percent of earners are 77 times more likely to attend an Ivy League school than are the children of poorer parents — meaning that, in cases like this, admission is less about talent and more about coming from the right family. In that way, privilege casts inherited advantages as “exceptional” qualities that justify special treatment. No wonder that, when the poor lie, they’re more likely to do so to help others, according to research by Derek D. Rucker, Adam D. Galinsky and David Dubois, whereas when the rich lie, they’re more likely to do it to help themselves.…

(For more, if interested, use google)

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I think Bananas was joking (I hope).

Bashibazuk

Bashibzuk

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you seem to be a person with multiple personalities.

Let us hope that there is one that is not bad and that when I retire every personality will be pensioned.

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The elitist human is a parasite....that's why our species is being transformed in a parasitic organism through their leadership and guidance especially over the last 3 decades.

If one had read the text copied from the Economist above, one would have read that

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1. Europe and America are in the throes of a popular rebellion against liberal elites, who are seen as self-serving and unable, or unwilling, to solve the problems of ordinary people.
2. …... the liberal meritocracy is closed and self-sustaining.
3. .......
4.  ….. The ruling class live in a bubble. They go to the same colleges, marry each other, live in the same streets and work in the same offices. Remote from power, most people are expected to be content with growing material prosperity instead ...

If  these statements are true, I would deduce that the upper class is mostly parasitic.

The motto of the revolting America was “Give me liberty, or give me death!" .  I doubt that Patrick Henry would have said, if living today, “ screw freedom, give me penicillin, a car, a television and a computer“.

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I think the only solution is to remove voting rights from pleb voters.....

Are you serious? The upper class is mostly parasitic. If the upper class were as smart as it believe it is, it would be speaking to the plebes in a way they can understand. The way the upper class is speaking to the plebes m is of the type:

II do not care for your ideas, hopes, or fears. You are unable to understand what is important. Vote for me and (1)I will solve the problems you really have while (2) simply ignoring the problems you think you have. Some of your problems are insolvable and nothing can be done for them. Trust me, I know better than you.

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1. At www.politico.eu/article/eu-watchdog-probes-possible-misuse-of-refugee-funds-in-greece we read that

The EU’s anti-fraud watchdog is investigating the potential misuse of EU funds meant to provide food for refugees in Greece, a spokesperson for the agency said Tuesday.

The news follows the detention on Saturday of three journalists from Greek newspaper Fileleftheros following a libel suit filed by the country’s defense minister about an article alleging mishandling of EU funds meant for reception centers for migrants.    ….......

According to the Fileleftheros article, businesspeople close to far-right Defense Minister Panos Kammenos received some of the EU funding through contracts for matters like catering and plumbing. The newspaper said some businesses routinely overcharged for such contracts and often did not participate in competitive tenders.

Last year, NGO SolidarityNow submitted a petition to the European Parliament asking for a probe into the potential mismanagement of money intended to help refugees in the country. The organization pointed to poor living conditions for refugees and the fact that Greece has received substantial funds from Brussels to improve its asylum system.

2. According to Potami (a small Greek party); translation/ from the Greek text by bibi.

From 2015 up to now more than 1M+ refugees and migrants [(R/M)s in what what follows] entered Greece.

The (R/M)s end in camps that cannot serve so many people. Example: In Moria/Lesvos 10K (R/M)s are kept in facilities which cannot serve more than 3K persons.

The result is non-existent hygiene, inadequate medical care, daily incidents of excessive violence and incidents of rape which involve children as well.

To face this crisis Greece received 561 millions through the national funds and 1050 millions through emergency funds. Greece spent 916.3 of the 1050 emergency funds and only153M of the 561M.

Part of the spent monies were spent by the Greek ministries. The Europeans could not understand how and why were spent. Example:

The ministry of Defense received 99.9 millions and the ministry of Health received 27.45 millions (years 2016-2017).

The Europeans cannot understand (1) how these funds were spent (2) by whom and (3) how the receivers of the funds were chosen.

3. I am of the opinion that the Europeans fail to understand that Kαμμένος, and not only he, is a patriot and as a patriot must first help his fellow Greeks and then, if any monies remain, he will spend them for other purposes.

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The president gave a speech at  the  U.N. General Assembly and  typically boasted about his administration is the ‘most accomplished’ in America’s history.  There was a slight pause but then a very loud ripple of laughter went around the hall.

It is well known that people who laugh do not fight.  Therefore, the president achieved in minutes what the U.N.  failed to achieve in 70+ years.

Kudos also are due to Mrs Clinton and the DNP  for facilitating the  election  of  the noble Donald.   Apparently  the meaning of the name Donald is "world-ruler" and  as we all know, the peacemakers are blessed.  Obviously, the last election was won by the better man.

 

 

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When I was young and poor,  each time  I had a problem, the volunteers who  helped me were poor and  uneducated.    My idea is that the source of most, possibly all,  of our problems are the outcome of the social engineers who  are educated and well off.  Therefore, in order to ensure that our betters stop treating us as guinea pigs, we need to ensure that our betters share our pain.  Examples:

1)  If the poor adolescents are shot with prob p while their betters under the same conditions are shot with  probability p-d, a lottery will choose  which well-off adolescents  will be shot so that the probability to be shot  will the same for all.

2)    If the poor die, on the  average, younger than the millionaires because do not have access to good medicines and  medical  care facilities, we should  behead a few millionaires and on the average the rich will not live longer than  the poor.  Such a measure will ensure excellent health facilities for all.  

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On Sep 13th 2018 the Economist ran an article titled

A manifesto for renewing liberalism

I believe the following excerpts may of interest for the Yanks:

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Europe and America are in the throes of a popular rebellion against liberal elites, who are seen as self-serving and unable, or unwilling, to solve the problems of ordinary people.

1. …... the liberal meritocracy is closed and self-sustaining. A recent study found that, in 1999-2013, America’s most prestigious universities admitted more students from the top 1% of households by income than from the bottom 50%. In 1980-2015 university fees in America rose 17 times as fast as median incomes.
2. Governing liberals have become so wrapped up in preserving the status quo that they have forgotten what radicalism looks like. Remember how, in her campaign to become America’s president, Hillary Clinton concealed her lack of big ideas behind a blizzard of small ones. 
3. Today’s liberal meritocracy sits uncomfortably with that inclusive definition of freedom. The ruling class live in a bubble. They go to the same colleges, marry each other, live in the same streets and work in the same offices. Remote from power, most people are expected to be content with growing material prosperity instead. Yet, amid stagnating productivity and the fiscal austerity that followed the financial crisis of 2008, even this promise has often been broken.
4. Liberals need to spend less time dismissing their critics as fools and bigots and more fixing what is wrong. The true spirit of liberalism is not self-preserving, but radical and disruptive. 

Once more:   In my opinion (and not only mine) the DNP pushed the plebe to the Trumpism

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1. Ι tend to look at ethnicity as being subjective not objective. A bit as claiming being member of a club. If the club members accept me as such, then I am member.

2. Look at our neighbors across the Aegean. When the Turks arrived at middle East they were roughly 1M and the peoples within today's Turkey were roughly 10M.   DNA shows that the Turks in Turkey share on average 92/100 of their of the DNA with the Armenians and the Kurds..

3. Our own Isocrates stated that Greeks are those who have Greek culture.

4. What can one say about the citizens of the USA, of Canada, or of Australia. Are they part of a nation? of an ethnos?

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Who is/was Greek is not clear; moreover, the criteria are not clear. Examples:

1.   A friend's grandmother crossed the Aegean for free thanks to Venizelos and Atatürk. Eventually she ended in Polygono (area in    Athens that is not called Polygono nowadays). One day arrived to Polygono a mailman looking for a lady whose pre-marriage last name was Papadopoulou. Every lady in Polygono affirmed that there was no such person in Polygono. My friend's grandmother's pre-marriage last name was Papazkızı which, if translated from Turkish to Greek, would be Παπαδοπούλου. Language is not always a good criterion of ethnicity.
2. In the Mani there is a town called Αερόπολη. It used to be called (Ts/Tzimova] with the -ova being a typical Slavic ending
3. Greece(Peloponnese included) is/was full of villages called called Αράχοβα or Αράχωβα. In these villages the old gentlemen/ladies (Arvanites) could speak an idiom that is a version of Tosk-Albanian.

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1. If you google “Mετονομασίες οικισμών Mακεδονίας” you will find several lists of villages whose names were changed.

2. In the well organized countries there are offices (cadaster or cadastre= κτηματολόγιο) where records of ownership of land are kept. It is generally believed that these records are not accurate; a notary once joked that if these records are accurate, Greece is bigger than Brazil.

3. Births are reported to the town hall/δημαρχείο.

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What follows may be informative.

The data that follow were copied from a page, “Οικισμοί της Φλώρινας που αρχίζουν από Γ”, of Δημήτρη Λιθοξόου). The majority of Greeks considers him a lesser Greek. Lesser or not, Lithoxoou's data appear to be true and informing. According to the data listed by Λιθοξόου:

1. χριστιανικός πληθυσμός: 480 εξαρχικοί και 1.040 πατριαρχικοί Βούλγαροι. Λειτουργία ενός εξαρχικού σχολείου με ένα δάσκαλο και 35 μαθητές και ενός πατριαρχικού σχολείου με δύο δασκάλους και 27 μαθητές [Brancoff1905]

2. Σκοπιά (Άνω Νεβολιάνη), 140 ξενόφωνες οικογένειες, όλες δεδηλωμένων σλαυϊκών φρονημάτων [Στατιστική 1932].

3. Σκοπιά, 1.691 κάτοικοι, εκ των οποίων 1.100 ήταν σλαυόφωνοι. Υπήρχαν 800 άτομα μη ελληνικής συνείδησης, 300 ρευστής και 591 ελληνικής [Στατιστική 1945].

4. Μεταξύ 1903-1915 μετανάστευσαν από το χωριό στις ηπα και κατά την εκεί άφιξη τους στο Ellis Island δήλωσαν στις αρχές εθνικά Μακεδόνες  36 άτομα.

   Unless I am wrong, the names (listed by Lithoxoos) of the 36 immigrants were Slavic.

 

 

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1. I am not a policeman and you do not have to answer any of my questions.

2.  H Skopia of Florina was known as Ανω Νεβόλιανη prior to 1928.

3.  The name Νεβόλιανη is believed to be Slavic; In the Kathimerini we read  the following for another village with the same name:

Το πότε κτίστηκε το χωριό δεν είναι είναι γνωστό. Ξέρουμε μόνον πως προϋπήρχε της κατάκτησης της Θεσσαλίας από τους Τούρκους το 1393. Η επικρατέστερη εκδοχή είναι πως κτίστηκε μεταξύ 11ου και 13ου αι. από γεωργοκτηνοτρόφους που κατέβηκαν εκεί από τη σημερινή Σερβία μετά τον 11ο αι., εξ ου και το σλάβικο τοπωνύμιο Νιβόλιανη. Οι ντόπιοι θεωρούν ότι Νιβόλιανη σημαίνει ουράνια πόλη. Ομως ο Γιάννης Κορδάτος στην «Ιστορία επαρχίας Βόλου και Αγιάς» γράφει τα εξής:

«Ο Vasmer ετυμολογεί αυτό το τοπωνύμιο από το σλαβικό Nevoljane που θα πει κακοτοπιά, μέρος φτωχό και επικίνδυνο. Αλλοι, όμως, που ξέρουν καλά σλαβικά μού είπαν πως σημαίνει σκλάβοι-δούλοι, άρα Σκλαβοχώρι. Οι παλαιοί πάλι Νεβολιανίτες παραδέχονταν μεν πως το όνομα του χωριού τους είναι σλαβικό, μα του έδιναν τη σημασία Ουρανία».

Therefore it is plausible that  at some time the population of the Skopia was Slavic.

 As for you, if you are Greek subject and feel Greek you are (in my opinion at least)  Greek.  Look at the Gagauz in Greece.  They are Turks who became Christians and they feel Greeks.  No problem!

 

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2 hours ago, skopia77 said:

 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, skopia77 said:

From researching my family's history I have found that my family were Hellene who were slavicized, though I have no intention of telling them that; they like to believe the brainwashing done by the Bulgarians.

E.g. the family name of the head of the Greek church is Liapis. His last name suggests Albanian ethnic origin. His ethnic identity is Greek. Actually all the Christian Arvanites in Greece were and are considered to be Greeks of Albanian origin.

In the Peloponnese, next to the sea, there is a village named Yalova. A few years back I met a Turkish lady who was blonde. I asked where she was born; she told me in Yalova, a city, in Turkey.

So there we are:

1. We have Turks, e.g. Erdoğan, whose ethnic origin is Greek; Erdoğan's grandfather lived in Potamya (in Greek potami=river and potamya= place next to the river) in Turkey, near the Black sea.

2. We also have blond Turks born in a Turkish city with a GreekoSlavic names (if I am not wrong, Yalova comes from the Greek Yalos= seashore and ova=place).

I have no idea for the ethnic-identity of your ancestors. It would interesting to know:

1. The names (first and last name) of your ancestors

2. If they were followers of the Bulgarian exarch or of the patriarch in the City

3. What language they used at home.

4. If they lived in a village, can you name a) The name of their village and   b) If their village had a teacher and/or a doctor; if so, who was providing him/them? Greece or Bulgaria?

 

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4 hours ago, AchillesHeel said:

Do you really want to know? Is it really worth it?

I do not to care to know.  But while reasonable people learn from their failures the narcissists  continue to piss  against the wind.  

As of now, we read how bad Trump is and most of the critics fail to explain the ascent of Trump and Trumpism.  I hope that if he start to be seen as a laughable and pitiable clown, Trump,  Trunpism, the Trump  enablers, and the cute fixations  of the enablers will be history.  

[Trump Is Not the Problem, the DNC is]

Ms. Stormy Daniels has written her memoirs (details in the Guardian). Therein she describes in excruciating detail the President’s genitals (small with unusual shape) and her disgust with herself for letting the scene play out.

Trump has denied any affair with Ms. Daniels, although he admitted to personally reimbursing his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, for the money Daniels received in the hush agreement.

Now we can find out if he lies. Ms. Daniels provided a detailed description of his genitals. If he drops his pants we will know (with high probability) if she is lying or not! We will also know if the Democrats managed to be beaten by a fellow misshaped and small in all the possible ways.