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That's just it. We made a living off winning 1-0 against mediocre opposition. Even then we had trouble scoring goals, but at least we would eventually get that goal that just never comes now. You also mention luck, you're right. I recall a game at home to Slovakia where we won off the Slovakian keeper whiffing at a back pass for an own goal. Against Finland, we at least dominated possession, and usually possession means goals, or at least that you won't be giving up goals, but we still lost 1-0. They scored on their only real chance. You could say you want Karnezis to make the save, but I don't really think the goal was on him. The real joke was 20 shot attempts, but just 3 shots on goal, none of which were anything but routine saves for Hradecky. That's a creativity problem. We've always been short on creative players, but it's getting worse. This is why the Ninis and Fetfatzidis of the world have to be playing. Beats these Mantalos and Aravidis nobodies we're trying instead. NO idea what Tziolis was doing, and while Vyntra wasn't as bad as I expected, still looked out of place. We have 3 games left, can't qualify, but let's at least improve. Next game's goal should be to create a good scoring chance. Don't have to win, don't even have to score. Let's at least LOOK dangerous.

Ninis or Fetfa could not possibly have been worse than anyone not named Fortounis in yesterday's midfield.

It's just amazing how quickly things have changed. We all thought as Karagounis finally moved on, and Katsouranis and Gekas would fade away that we would be ok, and maybe even improve. I refuse to believe that these guys who were competent players as recently as last year all suddenly suck. Something bigger is going on, but what?

Not a PAOK guy, never even been to Thessaloniki, but that's a great story.

Wow, somebody else made the topic. Kudos for making it the same way I would have. If we can get through this match and still have Israel within reach, we have a chance.

We shouldn't be bringing our clubs into this. You put that aside when the ethniki plays. They're making us ALL miserable. Olympiakos fans, AEK fans, PAO fans, PAOK fans, ALL Greeks.

I mean, I didn't say I want to never see him again. He was a black hole in our offense today. Ruining good possession by taking stupid shots. Shot selection is the key to being a good striker.

I feel stupid that I ever complained about Santos. It really does get so much worse

Nope, Karaiskaki was a fortress.

Sure enough, as many of you predicted, Aravidis was another Mantalos, a player playing well above his level. Not international quality. Worst player was Karelis by a mile, though.

Group F Standings Northern Ireland-16 Romania-15 Hungary-12 Finland-7 Faroe Islands-6 Greece-2 We are officially out

No sense making a change now. We're playing out the string at this point

Greece 0-1 Finland FT WE....ARE....GARBAGE

Yellow against Papastathopoulos

Holebas, save Hradecky, I could have stopped that

Drop pass to Tachtsidis, right at Hradecky

+4

Kone taken down, and they're saying it's a free kick

Good rush, Vyntra called offside

Final Greek substitution: Tachtsidis IN Samaris OUT All changes have been made

Finns packing it in, and I don't blame them

Final Finnish substitution: Mattila IN Sadik OUT

Audible "Suomi" chant, IN OUR HOUSE!

Samaris with a Karelis type shot

Fountas looked bad last we saw him