[Avraam]

I am sure Stoltidis regrets telling Otto to go to hell when he invited him to play in 2004.

[Avraam]

yea i never got why he was there, i mean that OG last week was the icing on the cake....

but arent there (or recently inn the last 5-10 years) players who are amazing that arent played in the NT because of a) money disputes, B) they told otto to go F*** himself (was that Tsiartas?) and or they are just never picked due to political reasons...

i mean wasnt there a guy zikos who kicked ass and never played for the ethniki?? and wasnt eleftheropoulos a starting keeper at AC for a while and never put ahead of george clooney??

i mean i could be wrong im relativly new to the ethniki (yes i converted after the euro04 but i followed from 03!!!) but my greek teacher always said there were better Greek players that never played for the ethniki....man tsiartas has balls for telling otto to F*** himself...but i guess otto won that battle

Tsartas always played for the Greek team. He had very poor stamina so Otto used him as a sub. He said some tough things about Otto in interviews. You see you have to understand, Otto is a control freak, he did not give Zikos, Stoltidis, or Georgotos a chance for various reasons. He needs his yes men.

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[Avraam]

My question to all is how many goals has he cost us this campaign?

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