FREE SPEECH ?

[trifilli]

Please allow me to address this, in this forum, without any deletions.

Although it might be more appropriate under the "Feedback" sub forum,

it will not get the necessary exposure to the "target" audience.

I kindly ask, that it is moved to the most suitable category, only after the initial interest has subsided.

Thank you.

I do not see any VALID reason for a thread to be locked ...

Unless :

It has deteriorated to personal insults.

Contains any offensive subject or material.

Has information already mentioned at another thread,

in which case, a merge would be more appropriate.

It violates the forum's rules of conduct.

A thread can be valuable, even if some members or moderators, disagree with the topic.

If a thread has limited interest, it will "fade" on it's own, from inactivity.

As long as a topic creates dialogue, it is obviously stimulating some interest,

that should NOT be depressed.

If you disagree with the topic at hand, do not post, or post your disagreement,

in a civil and constructive way.

That disagreement is also valuable, and would not be expressed if the topic is closed.

Locking a thread, should be the absolute last resort, and only to protect the integrity of this forum.

Doing so, solely due to matters of "taste", is detrimental to free speech, which I am sure is not the objective of this, or any "open forum".

Even if you find this thread "useless", please respect FREE SPEECH, and do not close it.

I believe that I acted in "good faith" and according to the ...

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PEACE

[dimitriis]

File sthn sugkekrimenh periptwsh, auta peri Kyrgiakou einai 8ewries tou Sportime. YPARXEI HDH THREAD gia akrivws auto ton logo! Poios o logos na kaneis ksexwristo topic kai malista poll gia kati pou den ufistatai. Pername mia duskolh periodo kai kati tetoia mono megaluterh diamaxh metaksu opadwn-dioikhshs mporei na feroun. Mhn paizoume to paixnidi twn dhmosiografwn. Den m'aresei na vlepw Panathinaikous na katapianontai me oti asunarthsia grafetai.

[Panos13]

Talking of which, does anybody here have a link to a site where I can see the Mohammed cartoons?

[trifilli]

Dimitri.

H erothsh einai pragamati ypothetikh.

Den exo prothesh na kano diamaxh, an diavases pote ta post mou, apofeugo tetoiou eidous symperifora.

Apla endiaferomai na do thn gnomh ton Panathinaikon opadon gia to sygkekrimeno thema, pou einai poly pio geniko apo ton Kyrgiako, kai dystyxos epanalamvanetai.

Opos eides, apo tis apantiseis, yphrxe endiaferon.

Den pisteuo oti aneikei sto allo thread, dioti einai erotish.

Kai alla topics/polls exoun anoixthei me ypothetikes erothseis paromiou typou.

Poios o logos na kleisei to thread?

Opos eipa, an den exei kapoios gnomh, den apantaei

An symfonousame, olloi, se olla, den tha eixame tipota na poume... :)

PEACE

[dimitriis]

Apla endiaferomai na do thn gnomh ton Panathinaikon opadon gia to sygkekrimeno thema, pou einai poly pio geniko apo ton Kyrgiako, kai dystyxos epanalamvanetai.

Ok dekto. Anoikse to poll, kane orismenes dieukrinhseis kai ksekina mia upo8etikh suzhthsh. Etsi opws anoixthke to poll, o kosmos to ekselave san na uparxei 8ema metagrafhs tou Kurgiakou stous gay kai arxisan na epirriptoun anuparktes eu8unes. Einai gnwsto oti oi gay endiaferontai gia prwhn kai nun paixtes mas kai akoma xeirotera duo hdh akolou8hsan ton dromo tou limaniou. Se apasxolei auto? Einai katanohto. Apla emena to poll pou ekanes mou fanhke sugkekrimeno, gurw apo mia fhmologia tou Sportime!

Telospantwn den exei polu nohma na analwnomaste se authn thn suzhthsh. Egw pantws den 8a ekana 8ema gia FREE SPEECH kai ta sunafh. Einai ligaki upervoliko. 8a anoiga kainourgio topic me mia mikrh epeksighsh tou skopou tou (i.e. me auta pou eipes poio panw).

PEACE

[trifilli]

Den einai h proth fora pou kleinei thema logo "ypokeimenikhs gnomhs" ;)

Auto thelo na toniso.

Asxeta me to thema, kai poios to grafei, an den paraviazei tous kanonismous, den prepei na kleinei...

Oute kataxrhsh egine, oute peirazei toso na exoume akoma ena thread.

An den endiaferei, grhgora tha perasei sthn afaneia.

PEACE

[NYC_Olympiakos]

why are Pao moderators locking everything up in here

i mean if u look at all the statements so far

its all bitter Pao fans who yet again allow one there own going to there eternal rivals

and trust me Pao fans when Pao players defect they go for better at Olympiakos

they go there and win titles

[Montreal_Thrillos]

why are Pao moderators locking everything up in here

i mean if u look at all the statements so far

its all bitter Pao fans who yet again allow one there own going to there eternal rivals

and trust me Pao fans when Pao players defect they go for better at Olympiakos

they go there and win titles

PAO should not be bitter

after all he went to rangers after PAo sold him

this is where PAOS management should come out and offer him a chance to play for the greens

and not sit by and watch him go to OSFP with no resistance from PAO LIKE NIKO AND KOSTADINOU

then we will get to see all PAO fans call him a traitor !

[slick13]

this is a political matter!

move this topic

[drakos13]

this is a political matter!

move this topic

hey how are things in Denmark btw...

[slick13]

i dont really care about this country!

they always think they are the best in the world!

in general most are stupid people here ;)

the cartoons got out on paper in october and some muslims where complaining but i mean it is over 2-3 months now and why did they wait so long to do something about it?

also my meaning about this is simply u do not disgrace ANY RELIGION simply as that. u dont need to make fun about others religion especialy if u say something uneeded

[TRIFILARA]

i agree with Trifilli.... Thread's should not be closed/locked by moderators just because they disagree or half a different opinion with a certain topic, just because they have the power to do so. It should be the LAST RESORT to close/lock a thread.... ABSOLUTE last resort!!!!

Though i personally think this Kyriakos thema is just something to fill the selides of their sports papers.... and it probably will never happen... but... u can never say never... :ph34r:

[trifilli]

Thank you TRIFILARA. :)

Another thanks, to Grace and the mods, for not closing/moving this post.

I appreciate it. :tup:

As for Kyrgiakos:

He will probably not find a contract abroad as good as the one he currently has with Rangers.

If he stays abroad, he may have to take less, and play for a mediocre team. His choice is between that, and gauros.

PAO sold him without his consent, then sued him, and AEK or PAOK could never afford him.

It is pure business. In business, a good reputation is everything.

"Tzigger" is unfamiliar with good business practices, since he has never had to work for his money.

I cannot wait for the day, when PAO regains the respect it deserves.

The day when players would be willing to take less, to play for us, than become

"limenergates"... :P

I support the right of the Danish press to print anything they deem fit.

Non Muslims are not aware of the Islamic rules, and therefore could not be responsible for breaking them.

The Western/"Christian" world, however, must realise the huge cultural "gap" that exists between it, and the Islamic world.

What is considered "normal"and "acceptable" in one culture, may not in another.

PEACE

[Evergreen]

1st of all Kirgiakos is no longer a Panathinaikos player

2nd of all there is no chance he will return to Panathinaikos

3rd and finally, it's Olympiakos who apparently interested in the player. You might as well open the topic in the Olympiakos forum. It has nothing to do with Panathinaikos topics.