Kostas Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 below is our list of scorers for this season. i believe we had a very good season by Lybe, Lakis, and Katsouranis, who scored many of his goals late in the season. its also interesting that okkas has the same number f goals as ivic and georgatos, wh both played far fewer games than him. also notice that tsartas had a very minimal showing compared to other seasons. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irlandos Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Translation: we miss Demis! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Melbourne 21 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Translation: we miss Demis! :( Going to disagree with you here Irlande...Lybe.....all class what can I say....I mean he wasnt far off the top of the charts CONSIDERING THAT AXRISTO REFUSED TO PLAY HIM AT THE START OF THE SEASON. For that reason he should have been sacked alone....I will NEVER EVER LET IT PASS THAT LYBE PLAYED 27 MINUTES IN THE TWO DERBYS WITH PAO AND OSFP WHILE MALADENIS PLAYED 117 MINUTES. Re ton Yiannaki.....How the hell can you be level with those guys.....seriously if we can those stats will be more damaging if we get game time next to these numbers....I will try and do so...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava-G Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 its also interesting that okkas has the same number f goals as ivic and georgatos, wh both played far fewer games than him. Unfortunately in Greece we only look at Goals. We dont have even watch the players that give the assist and is considered secondary... alot of the time the assist is more valuable than the goal. Im not trying to protect either Okkas or Tsiartas, as I believe they should have scored more than they did this year... though I guarantee that I could write a solid arguement for both. Both of these players probably had the highest number of assists on the team. Maybe add on one more player from the team and you have your top three assist givers. Geez, there was a run here at the end of the year where Okkas had 6 assists in a run of 5 games. I dont know how many assists from free kicks and crosses that Tsiartas had this year, though I can remember quite a few. My point being that you can put the best striker in the world on a team, but if no one gives him a good pass... he cannot do everything himself. We tend to think scoring is black and white. It is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Melbourne 21 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I went to aek.com but there stats are not up to date..... Those figures will look better with Time PLayed and Assists. Dava makes a valid point..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsurfer Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 If you look football with a deeper eye.....then although Okkas didn't have a good saison, he was very valuable for AEK with his play....., despite what TV consumers say.... With his dashes and sprints he always opened spaces into the opponent's field..... I m sure if we finally get some leadership how Demis promises it, we get rid of the financial problems and we have a steady alternative home-ground till our own stadium is built........ then Okkas will show his real value.....if he still stays with us...... Okkas has exactly ...what AEK of 2003 - 2004 missed (beside the Goalkeeper problem).... : Intense Playing Rythm..... And the above we can only get with young and hungry players, who have some talent. I don't see any place for Kassapis and Borbokis...due to their ages.....and we could also beginn with the post-Tsartas area.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 its also interesting that okkas has the same number f goals as ivic and georgatos, wh both played far fewer games than him. Unfortunately in Greece we only look at Goals. We dont have even watch the players that give the assist and is considered secondary... alot of the time the assist is more valuable than the goal. Im not trying to protect either Okkas or Tsiartas, as I believe they should have scored more than they did this year... though I guarantee that I could write a solid arguement for both. Both of these players probably had the highest number of assists on the team. Maybe add on one more player from the team and you have your top three assist givers. Geez, there was a run here at the end of the year where Okkas had 6 assists in a run of 5 games. I dont know how many assists from free kicks and crosses that Tsiartas had this year, though I can remember quite a few. My point being that you can put the best striker in the world on a team, but if no one gives him a good pass... he cannot do everything himself. We tend to think scoring is black and white. It is not. i opened this topic to only look as goals.you want to talk about assists open a topic about assists. i know the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Melbourne 21 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I know what your saying nitesurfer but I think Okkas attitude was his main problem....the mere fact he faught with Ntoumi and was acting a smartass, the face he got involved with the Bajevic saga when there was no need... Given the chance I would say sell him because in this time of cost-cutting, we obviously need to trim up a 31-man squad....he is still worth something and will probably excel in a different league away from the social politics of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The2ndMouse Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I wonder if we will keep Nalitzis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava-G Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 i opened this topic to only look as goals. you want to talk about assists open a topic about assists. i know the difference Sorry if I offended you... I would hope you know the difference between the two.I will try to limit my posts to the subject - like everyone else in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 no offense taken. if i had assists data available, i would have posted that in a topic as well. but with these data, we can see the plurality of our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS1905 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Okkas is a good player, any doubts? But he had somewhat a lazy season compared to his' at PAOK. Nalitzys? a must in a team that is being rebuilt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 okkas is definitely not worthless. in some games he had a field day against his defender on the wing, it is not very easy to defend him. his value and talent are not questioned. he came to the team at the wrong time, and that hurt him. his manager doesn't help either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Melbourne 21 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 his manager doesn't help either I would have thought that its his mentality not his manager. He was more interested in defending the Frog as opposed to doing the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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