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Nations League: Greece - Slovenia (18 Nov. 2020, Georgios Kamaras, Athens)


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A win here will set off the following chain of events :  - Ranked in pot 3 for WC Qualifying - Top the following group: England, Wales, Greece, Estonia, and San Marino . (We don’t drop any p

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I might be alone on here thinking this but I’d like to see JVS take this team to World Cup qualifiers.. I think he deserves a chance. Changing coaches should not be an option right now IMO... 

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You can’t blame JVS on this one started the players he should have and made the right subs to force the attack..The one mistake maybe I would have keto two strikers instead of taking of Giakoumakis for Pavlidis..We have definitely improved under this coach but at the end of the day if we can’t top a group like this one we have no business going to group B as we would get our asses handed to us.. What does this really say about our chances in the qualifying group for the World Cup? Not good at all.. We played a good game but they need to win these types of games if they want to climb up the fifa standings.. We were undefeated and allowed 1 goal against but at the end of the day we just can’t score..

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btw unlike what people might think greece played a rather good game but proved once again that they are absolutely bad in front of the net. mitroglou needs to find a team next transfer window and sort of solve the problem.

 

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Σκατά με φράουλες. Ήθελα να γράψω οτι η πρόκριση χάθηκε με το Κοσοβό στην Αθήνα αλλα και πάλι για την νίκη θα παίζαμε σήμερα.

The problem is the amount of foreign players allowed in the Greek league. There needs to be a rule that ensures at least 6 of the players in the starting line up are Greek.

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You can’t blame JVS on this one started the players he should have and made the right subs to force the attack..The one mistake maybe I would have keto two strikers instead of taking of Giakoumakis for Pavlidis..We have definitely improved under this coach but at the end of the day if we can’t top a group like this one we have no business going to group B as we would get our asses handed to us.. What does this really say about our chances in the qualifying group for the World Cup? Not good at all.. We played a good game but they need to win these types of games if they want to climb up the fifa standings.. We were undefeated and allowed 1 goal against but at the end of the day we just can’t score..

You can blame him of course. He is the only one to blame.

The reason this match was a final was beause his selections in the matchday 1 vs Slovenia and matchday 4 vs Kosovo ended up in us not winning. When Slovenia is playing for literally 2 results it's twice as easy to manage the game.

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3 minutes ago, Molon Lave said:

So, Bosnia lost and Finland lost. Did Greece get pot 3? 

What difference does it make. We stand no chance of making WC. The rebuild continues. 

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1 minute ago, Athens4 said:

Σκατά με φράουλες. Ήθελα να γράψω οτι η πρόκριση χάθηκε με το Κοσοβό στην Αθήνα αλλα και πάλι για την νίκη θα παίζαμε σήμερα.

The problem is the amount of foreign players allowed in the Greek league. There needs to be a rule that ensures at least 6 of the players in the starting line up are Greek.

Winning Kosovo and scorign 1 more with Moldova. 

Also u forget the line-up vs Slovenia at matchday 1.

Coach lost it. We literally had the easiest group in League C.

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1 minute ago, Rockafeller Skank said:

You can blame him of course. He is the only one to blame.

The reason this match was a final was beause his selections in the matchday 1 vs Slovenia and matchday 4 vs Kosovo ended up in us not winning. When Slovenia is playing for literally 2 results it's twice as easy to manage the game.

I think you miss understood me, I said you can’t blame him for tonight’s lose he made the right moves..

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4 minutes ago, Boxou said:

btw unlike what people might think greece played a rather good game but proved once again that they are absolutely bad in front of the net. mitroglou needs to find a team next transfer window and sort of solve the problem.

 

Sadly unless we have a consistent scorer this will always be the outcome for them..

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3 minutes ago, Molon Lave said:

Greece can play well against one Pot 1 and 2 team if they get a good draw and perform better. 

Lol 😂 

now say that again but without crying 😂

thats some funny s%$#!. 

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Player ratings:

Vlachodimos - wasnt really tested (0)

Mavrias - was average (2.5)

Hatzidiakos - was okay until that red card (2.5)

Tzavellas - won a couple of headers (2.5)

Tsimikas - okay but nothing really spectacular (3)

Zeca - tried hard (2.5)

Bakasetas - a shot, and some good ideas, but that was all (2.5)

Kourbelis - he was not a jot better than Bouchalakis against Moldova (2.5)

Limnios - skilled but was ultimately useless today (2.5)

Giakoumakis - hardly touched the ball in the last 15 minutes of the first half (1.5)

Fortounis - he should have been CAM during this campaign, good passes (3)

Subs: Pavlidis was better than Giakoumakis, but not that much - and he also couldnt score (2), Tzolis was not above average (2), Masouras fought hard but he also couldnt dish out an assist or to score (-), Kyriakopoulos was on the pitch for 2 minutes (-).

Van T Schip organized the team and we got some fine results but we will perhaps lose our Pot 3 position because of his Bakasetas mania. But for that hole in his conception, we could have won the second Kosovo game (I mean Fortounis would have converted that penalty). A good overall display from the team in Nations League, but results were not that great. Overall JVS is an okay coach even if he makes strange decisions (he practically kicked Manolas Siovas Papastathopoulos out of the squad, he chooses Bakasetas as team captain, penalty taker and regular CAM, uses unreliable Tzavellas as a center back) but we could not won this easy group.

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1 minute ago, La Mendel said:

Player ratings:

Vlachodimos - wasnt really tested (0)

Mavrias - was average (2.5)

Hatzidiakos - was okay until that red card (2.5)

Tzavellas - won a couple of headers (2.5)

Tsimikas - okay but nothing really spectacular (3)

Zeca - tried hard (2.5)

Bakasetas - a shot, and some good ideas, but that was all (2.5)

Kourbelis - he was not a jot better than Bouchalakis against Moldova (2.5)

Limnios - skilled but was ultimately useless today (2.5)

Giakoumakis - hardly touched the ball in the last 15 minutes of the first half (1.5)

Fortounis - he should have been CAM during this campaign, good passes (3)

Subs: Pavlidis was better than Giakoumakis, but not that much - and he also couldnt score (2), Tzolis was not above average (2), Masouras fought hard but he also couldnt dish out an assist or to score (-), Kyriakopoulos was on the pitch for 2 minutes (-).

Van T Schip organized the team and we got some fine results but we will perhaps lose our Pot 3 position because of his Bakasetas mania. But for that hole in his conception, we could have won the second Kosovo game (I mean Fortounis would have converted that penalty). A good overall display from the team in Nations League, but results were not that great. Overall JVS is an okay coach even if he makes strange decisions (he practically kicked Manolas Siovas Papastathopoulos out of the squad, he chooses Bakasetas as team captain, penalty taker and regular CAM, uses unreliable Tzavellas as a center back) but we could not won this easy group.

Even if we would have scored against Kosovo and beat them we still would lose the division as we would be behind on goal differential..

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It’s hard to rate if Slovenia’s defence is that good, I mean who did they beat? Moldova and Kosovo and we already know we have a hard time scoring against the weakest of teams.. They do have a world class goalie but if it was any other team that can score I think they beat them by a couple of goals tonight..

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How many times did Tzavellas pass back to the keeper under no pressure? Its infuriating.

Anyway the only real difference with the Van Schip team compared to Anastasiadis is we play with more intensity now, you can see the effort is there but ultimately we lack the talent to get these results...we were never scoring tonight!

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