Nilaul Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 We're F***ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Pelkas has served the club well. I'm happy for him to go if that's what he really wants - good luck to him. Obviously would have preferred he stays but he is, with no offense intended, replaceable. Still, always hurts when one of your own leaves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilaul Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Bananas said: Pelkas has served the club well. I'm happy for him to go if that's what he really wants - good luck to him. Obviously would have preferred he stays but he is, with no offense intended, replaceable. Still, always hurts when one of your own leaves. We sold him for freaking 1.6 million. 1.6 million in 2020. We have newpapers being excited about selling a player for 1.6 mill. Its ridiculous. We want to be a big team yet we sell players for nothing. We spent more on players that end up being worse then Pelkas. We sold him before having a guaranteed proven replacement. Just how we sold Akpom before having a replacement. That arguably costed us Champions league. If Pelkas wanted to leave then we should had let him go after Europa league, he would have been on display there and we could have asked for more, however that wouldn't have happened because we just want to sell players for crap, we think like a small team, and as long as we think like that Paok will be small. Selling players expensively is the only way we can get increase our budget with this Financial Fair play crap, unless by some stroke of luck some sponsor that is completely unrelated to Savidis decides to poor millions in Paok. Edited October 6, 2020 by Nilaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brklyngrk Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Wasn't he going to be a free agent in June? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Correct. We don't have much leverage, especially if the player is not interested in signing a new contract. Fenerbahce needing to spend less on an acquisition probably netted him a higher salary as well. Smart move by him, particularly since Turkish clubs are all having such financial issues these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athens4 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Coincidence how Pelkas and Murg both have the same agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 The contract of Pelkas, Akpom and Limnios were expiring in June 2021. On January 1, 2021 they could agree with any team for free and PAOK would not see a penny. The important thing was to renegotiate their contracts last year. As far as I know Pelkas and Akpom refused to negotiate. If we did not sell them now even at the low prices we would most likely lose both players for free. @Athens4 and Vieirinha too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 By the end of the day we need to give UEFA the list of players for the Europa League group stage games. Once we supply it, we can't make any additions or changes, so if we want to sign a free agent and have him available for European games we have to sign them today. Would not be surprised if Mauricio and Vieirinha are announced by the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 With European list announced and Mauricio and Vieirinha not being included it's pretty much certain that they will not be signed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahma Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 quite shattering.. they obviously couldn't make a mutual agreement, having that extra depth in the squad would've been very helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahma Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 News on Misic... https://www.paoknews.gr/2020/10/07/μίσιτς-τέλος-για-παοκ/?fbclid=IwAR34xnWv8PWj_l6QtLPDnM7O1rkXIpCjnU9zmntq4unDncw1FRF8EBmQpTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 That’s too bad. Especially for Josip. He was doing well last season before his injury/illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Apparently Mauricio rejected our latest offer of around 400k a year. They seem to be saying that him knocking back the offer doesn't mean it's over and we'll be back at the negotiation table with him. For what it's worth I don't really want him back, he's missed the whole pre-season and early part of the season chasing a 1 million + contract that doesn't seem to exist. Move on from him, if we keep playing a 5-2-3 we only play with 2 central mids anyway, we currently have 4 it's enough until January. Unless there is a change of system incoming then I don't really think we need a 5th central midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Correct. He doesn't play a position of need, was way below average last year, and I'd rather have Schwab there at this point (my condolences to your cohost). If the situation with Misic changes in December or next summer, I'd take him 10 times out of 10 over Mauricio as well. Regarding the above link - other sites are saying this is just because he's still not able to play and that we're going back to the negotiating table once he is actually recovered. There were reports (if you want to believe them) that he had at least one additional surgery for this cancer, so it seems he is still a long way away from playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Misic won't play competitive soccer until next season (2021-2022). And that is assuming his therapy goes well and he is free of cancer. Yes apparently he had an additional surgery recently. That could be good or bad, but only his doctors know the facts. All the fake news we had in recent months that we paid the buyout clause were just that. Fake news. It now appears that PAOK made a decision to not claim him right now due to the his medical condition. I am sure PAOK and Sporting came to a gentlemen's agreement to revisit Misic loan/transfer when he is ready to return to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKSYD Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Mauricio signs with Panathinaikos.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Let's see if he can still run. Rumor has it that Giannoulis is about to sign an extension with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 7 hours ago, PAOKSYD said: Mauricio signs with Panathinaikos.... Supposedly for less money than PAOK's last offer which was 500K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 Reports out of Croatia have Sporting Lisbon and Dinamo Zagreb agree on a one year loan of Misic until June 2021. We can for get about him for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahma Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 is he expected to even play during that period.. i’m a little confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 I guess it all depends on his condition. It would appear that PAOK took a gamble and assumed that he would not be able to play at full abilities this season, and as such it would be counter productive to pay either 2 mil for the transfer and 800K in salary or even the 600K in case of a loan fee. Having said that it looks like Sporting found a team to take their player of their hands for the rest of this season. It was probably also the player's wish to go back to his homeland while he is recuperating from the bladder cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 This might be the one time we don't pay for a rehab of a player. If he's as keen on rejoining us as it sounded, then we can swoop back in next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 THere were reports he didn't want to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 Yeah because he still wanted the 800K contract that was negotiated before his cancer diagnosis. PAOK tried to reach a new agreement with Sporting and Misic taking his illness into account. I think the Misic era at PAOK is now finished. The good thing is that the team did not risk close to 5 mil on the player that might not even play the game again. The bad thing is that we are now short a good midfielder on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 We are short good midfielders, but have an overabundance of other ones. If the team ends up shipping off Augusto this winter, I wouldn't be surprised if we get another. I also don't think Tsiggaras will be here next summer, same with Ninua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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