Black4hell Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Please tell me I was seeing things !!!! Kace wearing the captains armband ? In the 2nd half of the last friendly..... WTF, I repeat WTF get rid of him already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Huh....you're right, he did wear it. I wonder if that was Pelkas' call. Henrique was on the field at the time but I guess Kace has much, much longer of an involvement with the club. Must admit, I will always have a soft spot for our little Albanian boy. Too bad he hit his ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Kace was the most senior PAOK player on the field at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAOKSYD Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Has the squad for the second Dutch leg of the pre season been announced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Not yet, but the remaining pre-season games have been finilized: July 20, 17:00 EEST: PAOK - Sint Truidense VV (Minj Stadion, Beringen, Belgium)July 23, 19:00 EEST: PAOK - RSC Anderlecht Brussels (Anderlecht Training Facilities, Brussels, Belgium)July 27, 16:00 EEST: PAOK - Al Taawoun (Horst, Holland)July 27, 20:00 EEST: PAOK - Fortuna Sittard (Fortuna Sitters Stadium, Sittard, Holland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 That Anderlecht game is gonna be a doozy. I'm assuming they will not allow us to watch it, but Ferreira now has a great opportunity to play his strongest possible team there and see where we really stand. Even a draw against them in a friendly will make me feel a LOT better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 Anderlecht is a big name from the old days in European football. But last season Anderlecht did not even qualify for European competition, for the first time since 1961/1962. The result will not tell where we stand. I'm afraid Q3 leg 1 must tell us, as the Arab team is not European level and Fortuna is a club of loanees that needs to be forged to a team once again from scratch. BTW: Nordsjælland (opponent in our second friendly) started the Danish league with a 0-3 away win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I take your point but I think most neutrals woulds till consider them at least as good as us ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Apparently Ferreira has decided take almost all the players to the second part of the pre-season training, which will give some players another chance impress the coach. The only absences are apparently the allready cut Deligiannidis, Markovski and Papadopoulos. All this according to SDNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 If there's even a small chance that we'll sell a winger, he should hold on to these guys until it's obvious what will happen. Though I'm sure he'd prefer to just buy another Braga player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 Ferreira has selected these players for the second phase of the preseason: Πασχαλάκης , Μελίσσας , Ζίβκοβιτς , Μιχάι , Χατζηισαΐας , Βαρέλα , Κρέσπο , Ίνγκασον , Μιχαηλίδης, Μάτος , Ροντρίγκο , Γιαννούλης , Μίσιτς , Κάτσε , Ελ Καντουρί , Τσιγγάρας, Μπίσεσβαρ , Βέρνμπλουμ , Μαουρίσιο , Ντόουγκλας , Ενρίκε , Στοχ , Λάμπρου , Βιεϊρίνια , Ζαμπά , Πέλκας , Λημνιός , Άκπομ , Σφιντέρσκι , Γαϊτανίδης. The squad will fly to Düsseldorf tomorrow at 10:15 EEST and from there to the trainingcenter in Horst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 So looking at this list of 30 players it is clear that Ferreira is following his formula that he talked about during his press conference. Ferreira said that he wants 21 - core players 3 - youngsters 3 - goaltenders --------------------------- 3 - injured player (starters) So basically players will be cut from the squad only when we sign a new player to replace them or when the injured players will start returning to playing shape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I think Giannoulis will remain, even with the signing of Coentrao (if it happens) and there will be a reevaluation in December when Vieirinha is set to return. (Who knows, if Coentrao works out, we may see Vieirinha at winger again). But the midfielder that's supposedly a done deal will surely mean an exit for Kace and with the return of Mauricio and Wernbloom, Misic is surely to be next out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Since he's on loan, would they even bother? I can't see us dropping Giannoulis; I think it's much more likely that Vieirinha will be put in as a winger and pinch-hit as a fullback/wingback once in a while. The team needs to build its next generation and there's absolutely no reason Giannoulis can't be a huge part in the team. I'm not nearly as concerned about his defending being an issue as most people here are. What I don't get about the numbers here, are what does this mean for the injured? Like, will there be a space for them when they come back? Assuming both Wernbloom and Mauricio are active and look good during the winter transfer window, does that mean Kace gets shipped out then? Or do we just not renew any contracts? Seems a weird situation all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I think Wernbloom is too much of a risk to count on his return. The likelihood of him reinjuring, ,or just not being able to play at a high level is HUGE, so I wouldn't put too much stock in his return. Mauricio is also coming from a pretty significant injury, so it may take a couple months to get into any kind of groove. I think having Kace this early in training makes him a great option for Cup matches and bottom 8 team matches...ESPECIALLY if by some miracle we get into Group Stages of CL and will have a couple months of 9-10 matches/month lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Kace would be just fine against Greek league opponents for the most part. As long as Ferreira will actually play him against those teams (something Lucescu and Ivic seemed dead-set against). If that Croatian guy gets bought, IMO we won't need to sign any more DMs. Even if Ferreira likes playing with two #6s... Why is everyone so much more sure that Mauricio will be in better shape than Wernbloom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 In my opinion Mauricio was a couple levels above Wernbloom (what little we saw of him) when they were both healthy. I think age is also a factor. Wernbloom is 33 and Mauricio is 30....in Football years, that's a huge gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I bow down to your analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 Tomorrow’s game against St. Truiden (17:00 EEST) will be available worldwide on paoktv: https://inpaok.com/580328/vlepis-paok-se-olo-ton-kosmo/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Great lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Giannoulis will be replaced by Rodrigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Close to what you would think will start in the first Champions league qualifier. Did Giannoulis get injured in the warm-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) For me, it's exactly the lineup we'd have in the qualifiers Here's what the team tweeted re: Giannoulis: -edit- more specific information (stomach): https://www.paok24.com/blog/gavriilidou/136368/aproopto-me-giannouli Edited July 20, 2019 by pash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 And here's the link, which hasn't started yet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonThanatos Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Wasn't the match supposed to start 20 minutes ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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