RED SHERIFF Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 ....the season will eventually start and will eventually finish.... there will be people crying foul no matter who wins or loses or draws... the circle will continue... so we now have a two week delay?? what will change in two weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Slightly greater likelihood of the northerly wind, might make those opening matches cooler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Don't be like that. Meli is a good guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnikos Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Well maybe you been away for a week, but the game is up for Alafouzos.. From post 356 continuing for the next few pages.. All his assets are now frozen. http://forums.phantis.com/topic/14387-giannis-alafouzos/page-18 As for Meli, he is on a scale far beyond Marinakis - we are talking Government level bribery to secure OPAP. That is Russia oligarch level. During the time of negotiations with OPAP, Costas Louropoulos, OPAP's chief executive, felt put under pressure by Mr Melissanidis in a series of telephone calls. 'He insulted me, as on many previous occasions...''You dare to sign [the Intralot (Kokkalis!) and lottery contracts] and I will take your head off.'' He has threatened countless people - and their families over the years. Aegean Oil has a history of death threats delivered from Meli to journalists. Nearly all the death threats from Meli over the years include threatening the victims' children and family - in exactly the same language - he doesn't even bother mixing up his threats. Always bomb threats, decapitation and death to the guy's kids and wife. A ref recently was threatened by Meli last season - which again was splashed all over the media - not the first ref either.. Everything Meli has done over the years is still online. His Wiki page has about 5% of it - but it is a good start if you have no idea of what he has been up to over the years to acquire his billions. As they say, behind every great fortune is an even bigger crime. Melissanidis has actually been convicted of bribing two players in an amateur football league in the 80s.. Nearly all his other court cases have ended in acquittal - as in most cases - the public prosecutors refused to turn up to trial.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitris_Melissanidis http://www.thepressproject.gr/article/57229/Melissanidis No one is clean. The only one I have not read any dirt on - well in Greek anyway.. is Savvidis. Maybe some Russian knows something, but from what I can see - he has either been fairly clean in Greece or at least covered his tracks better than Meli, Marinaki and Alafouzo. Thank for the insight, I was unaware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Only difference with Meli is that he doesn't want to control the league only for AEK to dominate it and win the league each year and also win CL money. He may want control but he does want a fairer competition between teams/more competitive league, he has also said he wants ALL Greek teams to have their own stadiums built/renovated. So lets not put Marinakis and Meli in the same boat as they are very different. As for Kontonis good on him, about time we had a Minister with balls and who can say it how it is, regardless of who's behind him or supporting him, Oly fans don't like things the way they are as its unknown territory to them as they have always gotten whatever they wanted, times are changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Hey, man, Marinakis is totally chill with Ethnikos Piraeus using their stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Marinakis is a good guy we just have misunderstood him and his ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED SHERIFF Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 9 hours ago, Original Sydney said: Only difference with Meli is that he doesn't want to control the league only for AEK to dominate it and win the league each year and also win CL money. He may want control but he does want a fairer competition between teams/more competitive league, he has also said he wants ALL Greek teams to have their own stadiums built/renovated. So lets not put Marinakis and Meli in the same boat as they are very different. As for Kontonis good on him, about time we had a Minister with balls and who can say it how it is, regardless of who's behind him or supporting him, Oly fans don't like things the way they are as its unknown territory to them as they have always gotten whatever they wanted, times are changing. Does Meli text you at night to tell you how fair he is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 If that's all you can reply back with then just shows what I have said is on the money :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Do you guys think that there's a problem with countries that aren't able to run their own domestic sports leagues? I think you know what I'm talking about..... Yes, I understand the foreign interests that don't want Greece to succeed, etc, but what is it in some countries that nothing works well?* As far as I know, the "Super League" was put together and run by Greeks. *few years ago, I had looked into some numbers regarding the popular approval of institutions [gov, democracy, public service, church, police, heath care, sports, revenue service, government, education, etc,] in Greece and none, except the defense forces broke the 20% approval..... Any country that has such low respect for its institutions is in deep crisis. And, this is a measure of the health of a country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I hear what you're saying, Reaper. But, let's assume there's a rule that says an organization has to be self-governing. Then what should happen if the mob takes over? You let it be? In the US, we know that the FBI had to bust up the mafia in unions, casinos, construction, all sorts of activities in the 1970s and 80s. All for the better as we see today. Now, I'm not saying that Kontonis is doing the right things (I just don't know enough), but I/we do know that EPO has been utterly corrupt. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same failed thing expecting different results every time.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Wow I wonder what Kougias is up to by making Alafouzos his choice for SL President. Too many games being played by ALL sides, are we going to see the league start by October? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Also is EPO going to sanction/fine Aris for their fans behaviour in the game or will they overlook that as they are one of their buddy teams, friendly or not something MUST be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 nah, I never liked his name anyways.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellas2004Gavros7 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) When the hell is Greek Super League 2016-17 going to commence for god sakes!!!????? ... It was supposed to start August 21st. Then they said it will start 10th September. Now they say it may not start 10th September. Now this is becoming ridiculous. It cannot start in October. Surely !!! ..... then FIFA/UEFA will be asking questions. I know there is an issue between that imbecile Kontoni and EPO (they are idiots too). I heard FIFA-UEFA made negotiation with Kontoni to change the refs and get rid of the current EPO board. But EPO didn't take a step back, and it's all up in the air now lol. Edited September 1, 2016 by Hellas2004Gavros7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitolos1926 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I don't understand why girtzikis won't step down. He knows that September 9 he will be forced out. I read an article that he is trying to negotiate keeping his seat until the elections in October AND be on the ballot in the election lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Aitolos1926 said: I don't understand why girtzikis won't step down. He knows that September 9 he will be forced out. I read an article that he is trying to negotiate keeping his seat until the elections in October AND be on the ballot in the election lol. Maybe he thinks he has a strong hand ? Maybe he has an ace up the sleeve we don't know about ? Maybe the way things run in Greece is so ingrained in him that he knows no other way ? Or just maybe, he's an idiot. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akritis_1944 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 To change subjects, in anticipation of the season starting, I read that there have been 229 transfers made in the GSL for the 2016/17 season at a total value of 38.58 million Euro. Most of these transfers were either loan deals or free transfers. To put in to some perspective, over a billion euros was spent on transfers in the EPL. There were a number of individual transfers that were larger than what the entire GSL spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dikefale11 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Only in Greece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I'm hearing that the league is on for next weekend...barring the obvious last minute delays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 The question (between SL and Nova) is: do we start with MD 1 or MD 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitolos1926 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Looks like the league with start with match day 3 and match days 1 and 2 will be played around Christmas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitolos1926 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) http://www.agrinio-sports.gr/οριστικό-αρχίζει-από-την-3η-αγωνιστική/ It's official the league starts with match day 3 as NOVA wants the dates of the derbies to remain the same. Dates and times will be announced tonight Edited September 5, 2016 by Aitolos1926 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitolos1926 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 The cliques in this league are easily distinguished in the yes vs no votes, if they weren't already clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Eagle Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) ΗΜ/ΝΙΑ ΩΡΑ ΑΓΩΝΑΣ ΣΤΑΔΙΟ ΔΙΕΞΑΓΩΓΗΣ Σάββατο 10/09/2016 16:00 Α.Ο.Κ. - ΠΛΑΤΑΝΙΑΣ Ε.Α.Κ. ΚΕΡΚΥΡΑΣ Σάββατο 10/09/2016 18:15 Π.Α.Ο.Κ. - ΠΑΝΑΙΤΩΛΙΚΟΣ ΓΗΠΕΔΟ Α.Σ. ΠΑΟΚ ΤΟΥΜΠΑΣ Σάββατο 10/09/2016 20:30 ΛΕΒΑΔΕΙΑΚΟΣ - ΠΑΝΑΘΗΝΑΪΚΟΣ ΔΗΜΟΤΙΚΟ ΣΤΑΔΙΟ ΛΙΒΑΔΕΙΑΣ Κυριακή 11/09/2016 16:00 Α.Ε.Κ. - Α.Ο. ΞΑΝΘΗ Ο.Α.Κ.Α. Κυριακή 11/09/2016 18:15 ΠΑΣ ΓΙΑΝΝΙΝΑ - ΑΤΡΟΜΗΤΟΣ ΑΘΗΝΩΝ ΕΘΝΙΚΟ ΣΤΑΔΙΟ ΙΩΑΝΝΙΝΩΝ "ΟΙ ΖΩΣΙΜΑΔΕΣ" Κυριακή 11/09/2016 18:15 ΠΑΝΙΩΝΙΟΣ – ΑΣΤΕΡΑΣ ΤΡΙΠΟΛΗΣ ΓΗΠΕΔΟ ΠΑΝΙΩΝΙΟΥ Γ.Σ.Σ. Κυριακή 11/09/2016 20:30 ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΟΣ - ΒΕΡΟΙΑ ΣΤΑΔΙΟ "Γ. ΚΑΡΑΪΣΚΑΚΗΣ" Δευτέρα 12/09/2016 19:30 Α.Ε.Λ. - ΑΕΠ ΗΡΑΚΛΗΣ AEL FC ARENA Edited September 5, 2016 by Dutch Eagle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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