Guest PastMember Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Turkey warns Germany against recognising Armenian Genocide By Paul Antonopoulos - 01/06/2016 Turkey?s President Erdogan warned Germany that its plans to recognise the Armenian Genocide would damage bilateral ties. This comes despite German Chancellor Angela Merkel being an advent supporter of Turkey?s accession into the European Union. Erdogan claimed that Germany was being deceived without mentioning who by. ?If Germany is to be deceived by this, then bilateral diplomatic, economic, trade, political, and military ties ? we are both NATO countries ? will be damaged,? he said. The Greens Party have pushed for the resolution to occur and it is expected that it will be passed on Thursday. Ottoman forces began in 1915 to slaughter 1.5 million Armenians, a million Greeks and 700,000 Assyrians. The vote was to take place last year on the 100th anniversary verses of the beginning of the genocide but Merkel?s parliamentary allies, wanting to avoid tensions with Turkey, kept pushing it back.https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-warns-germany-armenian-genocide-recognition/ | Al-Masdar News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korisos Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Turkey recalled their ambassador to Germany. The s%$#! may be about to hit ze fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I will be in Istanbul for five days mid September before heading to the motherland, anyone have a good knowledge of the city? You can PM if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Radiohead Fans Attacked by Radical Islamists in Istanbul During a Listening Party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJwznSAJKao&feature=youtu.be http://ca.complex.com/music/2016/06/radiohead-statement-fans-getting-attacked-istanbul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 There are over 60 million ppl in Turkey...they're not all the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Apparently there is an attempted military coup in Turkey as I write this. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koro Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Issues have been simmering in Turkey for a while now, Islamist Erdogan had something like this coming. Shame Greece can't get their own shop in order, while Turks are at each other's throats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koro Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 yeah what about fini tantra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Yip, Greece voted in the far left.. there will be no benefit from any of this. What benefit would you expect from these events, if Greece had not voted far left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pash Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 ^ my question exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED SHERIFF Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 not knowing what the outcome or fall out will be... it does feel good seeing your eternal enemy in disarray :D ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajewy Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Act 1: Coup d'etat Act 2: Victorious Leader Act 3: Referendum Final Act: President (Fuhrer!) And curtains... Great play, standing ovation and all... Yeah the coup leaders gave up rather quickly.... You'd think that it would last longer than five hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 It's over. A badly organized coup and a miserable failure. Even though I think Erdogan is a maniacal dictator and I wouldn't be upset if he was deposed, I don't think military coups are the way. But, not only the planning was bad, they miscalculated the reaction of the people and even within the armed forces. Frankly if there were elements who might have supported a coupe against Erdogan, they wouldn't risk their lives unless the coup would seem to be successful. If the leadership, especially the prez and pm and some other key power heads aren't arrested, usually there's no chance for a coup to succeed. Further, let's assume the challengers were honest in wanting to "restore democracy", did they realize that if they failed Erdogan would emerge even more of an brutal authoritarian? He now has an excuse for more retribution against his enemies, including those who had nothing to do with this coup.... Amateurs... I can hear some Greeks saying "the colonels" knew how to make a successful coup! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikitas Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) a turkish helicopter just landed in alexandroupolis. inside were military that were involved in the coup and now ask asylum in greece. how the hell did they landed without intervene? or did greece gave permission to land? interesting developments. http://www.ekathimerini.com/210510/article/ekathimerini/news/turkish-military-helicopter-lands-in-northern-greece-crew-requests-asylum i also read and heard that pro coup players have taken over a frigate and are also underway to greece. http://tribune.com.pk/story/1143060/turkish-frigate-seized-golcuk-naval-base-greek-army-source/ Edited July 16, 2016 by Nikitas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koro Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 29072016 couple days after that mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikitas Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) yeah i just read that to , and the helicopter was guided by 2 greek f16's. greece said it will return the helicopter but not yet the 8 turks who were in it. http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=331218 Edited July 16, 2016 by Nikitas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Say we had voted in a non-idealist who wanted a strong Greece. Tsipras does not want a strong Greece? Reaper get a grip dude. You are drunk off the anti left kool aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I don't know what his current approval ratings are, ot sure why you are mentioning his popularity. What I said was that if you believe Tsipras does not want a strong Greece, then you are allowing your distaste for leftists to cloud your reasoning in this specific case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 If we could set up a proper debate that would be quite nice, but in this forum the field is not level. In any case, I said my piece, if you want to make it about something else like popularity or wtv, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 There was a super article on Tsipras' interview yesterday, don't be afraid to give it a read. http://forums.phantis.com/topic/15072-tsipras/?p=283477 Why would I be afraid to read an article? On another note, it would be nice if you could give some kind of notice like: "this post is under construction" or something in that vein. Because you make a post, then you go back an edit it, I wanna make sure I don't miss anything is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasl Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Greece is in such a difficult situation. If these men are sent back , I can only wonder what kind of punishment they will face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikitas Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Turkey's Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said Ankara had asked Athens to send the eight back following Friday night's challenge to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's rule by discontented soldiers in which more than 250 people died. 'We have requested Greece to extradite the eight traitors as soon possible,' Cavusoglu was quoted as saying by HaberTurk television. Around 300-400 members of the Muslim minority of Greece, meanwhile, staged a demo outside Alexandroupolis airport calling for the 'traitors' to be sent back, an AFP photographer witnessed. Hold on a second...are these muslims in Greece, - Greeks or Turks??? probably a turkish minority , if i can remember right , erdogan often complained to greece about the lack of rights for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikitas Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Greece has apparently sent the 8 asylum seekers back to Turkey. they did not . there was a conversations between turkey and greece about this , that has been confirmed , but not the outcome. they will stand before trial and this could take a while. http://news.trust.org/item/20160717101643-srxjg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Erdogan seems to be performing a neat purge. A few thousand arrests of judges, military personnel and civilians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 This was a very bad thing for Turkey as it allows Erdogan to be more dictatorial and imperial, which is not good for Greece. A lot of people died and more will because of this, dare I say, amateurish coup. I'm not supporting military coups by the way.... Thousands of judges, officials, real and imagined enemies of the current government are fired or arrested within hours of this coup. Those lists of "undesirables" (political enemies or critics of Erdogan) were made before the coup. The state institutions and others, also the news media, will further be controlled by the authoritarian ruler now. Democracy isn't always desirable or even understood by many peoples. Turkey and Russia are such examples. The authoritarian rulers enjoy popular support. This coup failed in part because Erdogan has the support of a large mass of Turks. Nowadays the social media make it possible to mobilize people. Controlling the traditional news media isn't enough. Another effect will be that Turkey can forget joining the EU for decades now.... What? Who wants to be in the EU? :la: :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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