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Oooh that makes sense. Especially considering when I glanced through the games I couldn't identify any Romanian teams...

But yes I think we'd basically need to have, what, three or four teams make it into the knockouts? Very tall order.

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I wouldn't characterize this as a "rough week," personally. The gap to 15th place was cut down even further and is now less than 2 points. It was something like 3.5 at the start of qualies. I'd imagine PAOK and Olympiakos will make UECL knockouts. If one of AEK and Panatha can make it through too we'll be in great shape. 

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Pretty bad night last night for the Greek teams.  Inched up on Israel but I believe that's bc they still have a few games to play because of what's going on over there..

13
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Czech Republic 2.500 6.600 6.700 6.750 7.250 29.800 3/ 4
14
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Denmark 5.125 4.125 7.800 5.900 6.000 28.950 2/ 4
15
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Norway 3.750 6.500 7.625 5.750 5.250 28.875 2/ 4
16
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Serbia 6.000 5.500 9.500 5.375 1.400 27.775 3/ 5
17
eq
Ukraine 7.200 6.800 4.200 5.700 3.100 27.000 2/ 5
18
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Israel 2.375 7.000 6.750 6.250 4.500 26.875 2/ 4
19
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Greece 4.900 5.100 8.000 2.125 6.400 26.525 4/ 5
20
eq
Poland 2.125 4.000 4.625 7.750 5.625 24.125 2/ 4
21
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Croatia 4.375 5.900 6.000 3.375 3.375 23.025 1/ 4
22
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Cyprus 5.125 4.000 4.125 5.100 3.500 21.850

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Another bad night for Greek teams.  Had a chance for four teams to go through, only 2 made it...On the bright side, the two wins bumped us up to 17. Serbia is out and Ukraine doesn't look like they will get much.  Now from 17 to 15, that will be tough. Will need our teams to get a few wins, at least past the next round..

 

14
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Denmark 5.125 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 31.450 1/ 4
15
dn
Norway 3.750 6.500 7.625 5.750 6.250 29.875 2/ 4
16
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Israel 2.375 7.000 6.750 6.250 7.250 29.625 2/ 4
17
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Greece 4.900 5.100 8.000 2.125 7.800 27.925 2/ 5
18
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Ukraine 7.200 6.800 4.200 5.700 3.900 27.800 1/ 5
19
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Serbia 6.000 5.500 9.500 5.375 1.400 27.775 5
20
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Poland 2.125 4.000 4.625 7.750 6.875 25.375 1/ 4
21
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Croatia 4.375 5.900 6.000 3.375 4.625 24.275 1/ 4
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After yesterday where Greece had two remontadas:

14
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Norway 3.750 6.500 7.625 5.750 8.000 31.625 4
15
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Denmark 5.125 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 31.450 4
16
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Israel 2.375 7.000 6.750 6.250 8.750 31.125 4
17
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Greece 4.900 5.100 8.000 2.125 9.400 29.525 2/ 5
18
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Ukraine 7.200 6.800 4.200 5.700 4.100 28.000 5
19
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Serbia 6.000 5.500 9.500 5.375 1.400 27.775 5
20
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Croatia 4.375 5.900 6.000 3.375 5.875 25.525 4
21
eq
Poland 2.125 4.000 4.625 7.750 6.875 25.375 4
22
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Cyprus 5.125 4.000 4.125 5.100 3.750 22.100
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14
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Norway 3.750 6.500 7.625 5.750 8.000 31.625 4
15
eq
Denmark 5.125 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 31.450 4
16
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Israel 2.375 7.000 6.750 6.250 8.750 31.125 4
17
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Greece 4.900 5.100 8.000 2.125 10.000 30.125 1/ 5
18
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Ukraine 7.200 6.800 4.200 5.700 4.100 28.000 5
19
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Serbia 6.000 5.500 9.500 5.375 1.400 27.775 5

I guess in order to leap frog to 15th, OLY needs to win the Conference league, no bonus points?

 

 

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5 hours ago, Soprano76 said:

Oly needs to win both games vs Villa and then the UECL final, so quite unlikely. I think we are stuck with four teams in Europe next season. 

We are already set with 4 teams for next season (2024-2025). To have 5 teams in 2025-2026 Olympiakos need to beat Aston Villa twice (penalty shootouts don't count) and win the final either in  regular time or extra time (again no penalty shootout) 

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18 hours ago, Brklyngrk said:

Either way - that's the best we have performed in Europe in a very long time. If OLY would win, do they get automatic entry to Europa next year? If that's the case, that means we would have 5. 

If OLY wins they grab the ECL titelholderspot in EL. But if OLY manages to win SL they move to the higher valued (qualifiers) CL.

Greece only will have 5 spots next European season if O Aris wins the cup and OLY finishes 4th in SL and wins ECL. 

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10
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Czech Republic 2.500 6.600 6.700 6.750 13.500 36.050 4
11
eq
Scotland 9.750 8.500 7.900 3.500 6.400 36.050 5
12
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Switzerland 6.400 5.125 7.750 8.500 5.200 32.975 5
13
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Austria 5.800 6.700 10.400 4.900 4.800 32.600 5
14
eq
Norway 3.750 6.500 7.625 5.750 8.000 31.625 4
15
up
Greece 4.900 5.100 8.000 2.125 11.400 31.525 5
16
dn
Denmark 5.125 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 31.450 4

Wow - Who would have thought that we would move to 15th!! 

 

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Yesterday's results were not great.  AEK is on the verge of getting knocked out and has a 3-1 score to overcome.  PAOK has a shot but looked like second best most of the game. Let's see what PAO does in probably the trickiest tie of this round.

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10
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Turkey 3.100 6.700 11.800 12.000 4.700 38.300 4/ 5
11
eq
Norway 6.500 7.625 5.750 8.000 5.375 33.250 2/ 4
12
eq
Austria 6.700 10.400 4.900 4.800 5.200 32.000 4/ 5
13
up
Greece 5.100 8.000 2.125 11.400 4.375 31.000 3/ 4
14
up
Denmark 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 4.500 30.825 2/ 4
15
dn
Switzerland 5.125 7.750 8.500 5.200 4.200 30.775 3/ 5
16
up
Scotland 8.500 7.900 3.500 6.400 4.400 30.700 3/ 5
17
dn
Israel 7.000 6.750 6.250 8.750 1.875 30.625

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Not terrible but PAOK and PAO need to step up. We have a shot at 12th place (long-shot) but the other two need to contribute.  We also need to be careful we don't slip up. Places 13-17 are close!!

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11
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Norway 6.500 7.625 5.750 8.000 5.375 33.250 2/ 4
12
eq
Austria 6.700 10.400 4.900 4.800 6.200 33.000 4/ 5
13
up
Scotland 8.500 7.900 3.500 6.400 5.000 31.300 3/ 5
14
dn
Greece 5.100 8.000 2.125 11.400 4.625 31.250 3/ 4
15
eq
Switzerland 5.125 7.750 8.500 5.200 4.600 31.175 3/ 5
16
dn
Denmark 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 4.750 31.075 2/ 4
17
eq
Israel 7.000 6.750 6.250 8.750 1.875 30.625 1/ 4
18
eq
Poland 4.000 4.625 7.750 6.875 6.375 29.625 2/ 4

Not a good week for our teams...dropped one spot with OLY the only team getting points...

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10
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Turkey 3.100 6.700 11.800 12.000 6.500 40.100 4/ 5
11
up
Austria 6.700 10.400 4.900 4.800 6.875 33.675 4/ 5
12
dn
Norway 6.500 7.625 5.750 8.000 5.375 33.250 2/ 4
13
up
Greece 5.100 8.000 2.125 11.400 5.875 32.500 3/ 4
14
dn
Scotland 8.500 7.900 3.500 6.400 5.600 31.900 3/ 5
15
eq
Switzerland 5.125 7.750 8.500 5.200 5.200 31.775 3/ 5
16
eq
Denmark 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 5.250 31.575 2/ 4
17
eq
Israel 7.000 6.750 6.250 8.750 2.375 31.125 1/ 4
18
eq
Poland 4.000 4.625 7.750 6.875 7.500 30.750 2/ 4
19
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Croatia 5.900 6.000 3.375 5.875 5.125 26.275 1/ 4

Good week for Greek teams. 2 wins and a tie, should have been 3 from 3 but still good. Back to 13 and our gap between 11 to where we are tightened. Can go up as high as 11 or as low as 18. More realistically, we end up around 13 to 15. 

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10
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Turkey 3.100 6.700 11.800 12.000 7.150 40.750 4/ 5
11
up
Norway 6.500 7.625 5.750 8.000 6.125 34.000 2/ 4
12
up
Greece 5.100 8.000 2.125 11.400 7.125 33.750 3/ 4
13
dn
Austria 6.700 10.400 4.900 4.800 6.925 33.725 4/ 5
14
up
Switzerland 5.125 7.750 8.500 5.200 5.875 32.450 3/ 5
15
dn
Scotland 8.500 7.900 3.500 6.400 6.000 32.300 3/ 5
16
eq
Denmark 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 5.812 32.137 2/ 4
17
eq
Israel 7.000 6.750 6.250 8.750 2.875 31.625 1/ 4
18
eq
Poland 4.000 4.625 7.750 6.875 7.625 30.875 2/ 4

 

We can be anywhere from 11 to 16

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10
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Turkey 3.100 6.700 11.800 12.000 7.350 40.950 3/ 5
11
up
Austria 6.700 10.400 4.900 4.800 8.150 34.950 3/ 5
12
eq
Greece 5.100 8.000 2.125 11.400 8.000 34.625 3/ 4
13
dn
Norway 6.500 7.625 5.750 8.000 6.687 34.562 2/ 4
14
eq
Switzerland 5.125 7.750 8.500 5.200 6.650 33.225 2/ 5
15
eq
Scotland 8.500 7.900 3.500 6.400 6.200 32.500 2/ 5
16
eq
Denmark 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 5.968 32.293 2/ 4
17
up
Poland 4.000 4.625 7.750 6.875 8.625 31.875 2/ 4
18
dn
Israel 7.000 6.750 6.250 8.750 2.875 31.625 1/ 4

11-13 is pretty tight...Turkey we won't catch at 10. Have a very good chance of at least staying at 15 we ended up at the end of last year. 

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9
eq
Czech Republic 6.600 6.700 6.750 13.500 9.300 42.850 3/ 5
10
eq
Turkey 3.100 6.700 11.800 12.000 8.450 42.050 3/ 5
11
up
Greece 5.100 8.000 2.125 11.400 9.250 35.875 3/ 4
12
up
Norway 6.500 7.625 5.750 8.000 7.625 35.500 2/ 4
13
dn
Austria 6.700 10.400 4.900 4.800 8.150 34.950 3/ 5
14
eq
Switzerland 5.125 7.750 8.500 5.200 6.650 33.225 2/ 5
15
eq
Scotland 8.500 7.900 3.500 6.400 6.750 33.050 2/ 5
16
eq
Denmark 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 6.468 32.793 2/ 4
17
eq
Poland 4.000 4.625 7.750 6.875 8.625 31.875 2/ 4
18
eq
Israel 7.000 6.750 6.250 8.750 2.875 31.625 1/ 4

 

Austria's two teams in the CL are pretty much out, they'll have one team left. So it seems like Greece and Norway will be in for the 11th spot. We have an advantage on the rest of the teams below so hopefully we don't mess it up. The 10th spot is not happening. 

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10
eq
Turkey 3.100 6.700 11.800 12.000 8.900 42.500 2/ 5
11
eq
Greece 5.100 8.000 2.125 11.400 11.062 37.687 3/ 4
12
eq
Norway 6.500 7.625 5.750 8.000 8.437 36.312 2/ 4
13
eq
Austria 6.700 10.400 4.900 4.800 8.550 35.350 1/ 5
14
up
Scotland 8.500 7.900 3.500 6.400 8.250 34.550 2/ 5
15
up
Denmark 4.125 7.800 5.900 8.500 7.031 33.356 2/ 4
16
dn
Switzerland 5.125 7.750 8.500 5.200 6.650 33.225 1/ 5
17
eq
Poland 4.000 4.625 7.750 6.875 8.625 31.875 2/ 4
18
eq
Israel 7.000 6.750 6.250 8.750 2.875 31.625 4
19
eq
Croatia 5.900 6.000 3.375 5.875 5.875 27.025 4
20
up
Sweden 2.500 5.125 6.250 1.875 10.125 25.875 1/ 4

Good week for our co-efficient.  All three teams are in the next round (OLY having a bye) and some of the Countries below having teams eliminated. Haven't had a year with back to back 10+ pts in a very long time. 

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On 11/4/2022 at 4:09 PM, Dutch Eagle said:

Olympiakos is out. Zero - I repeat - zero wins in 12 matches this European campaign for the Reds.

Aris the only team to win this season (against the mighty Gomel).

 Current standings:

10
eq
Austria 6.200 5.800 6.700 10.400 4.500 33.600 1/ 5
11
eq
Serbia 6.000 6.000 5.500 9.500 4.875 31.875 1/ 4
12
up
Turkey 5.500 5.000 3.100 6.700 10.800 31.100 4/ 5
13
up
Switzerland 3.900 6.400 5.125 7.750 6.000 29.175 1/ 4
14
eq
Czech Republic 6.500 2.500 6.600 6.700 6.750 29.050 4
15
dn
Norway 5.375 3.750 6.500 7.625 5.500 28.750 1/ 4
16
dn
Ukraine 5.600 7.200 6.800 4.200 4.700 28.500 2/ 5
17
eq
Denmark 4.875 5.125 4.125 7.800 5.700 27.625 1/ 5
18
eq
Russia 7.583 4.666 4.333 5.300 4.333 26.215 0
19
eq
Croatia 5.750 4.375 5.900 6.000 3.375 25.400 4
20
eq
Greece 5.100 4.900 5.100 8.000 2.125 25.225 4
21
eq
Israel 2.625 2.375 7.000 6.750 6.250 25.000 4
22
eq
Cyprus 6.125 5.125 4.000 4.125 4.500 23.875 1/ 5
23
eq
Sweden 4.125 5.750 2.500 5.125 6.250 23.750 1/ 4
24
eq
Hungary 3.250 4.500 4.250 2.750 5.875 20.625 1/ 4

What a far cry from this disaster! The Greek league has certainly had a step up in quality. I think the 9-12 range is a realistic place. Of the countries ahead of us now, Czechia can be realistically surpassed at some point. Turkey was below us at 22 just a couple of years ago, so they can be a bit volatile as well. Other than that, not sure if one could expect to compete with the likes of Belgium and the Netherlands. 

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