J1078 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 3 hours ago, paokarag4 said: An interesting comment from Chatzidiakos in the pre-match press conference about the difference in philosophies between Poyet and JVS. Essientially he said JVS wanted possession, while Poyet places an emphasis on grabbing a goal. Not surprising considering JVS is from the Dutch school of football where possession is everything. The truth is no matter how bad we want to be side that dominates the ball, it's hard to turn professionals into that. What I mean is that the change needs to be done at a lower level and passed on to kids who are currently 12-16. It needs to become a style that kids grow up playing, not one they learn when they are 24 and have been professional footballers for 6 years already. Poyet's style of grabbing a goal probably suits the NT currently and fits more with the current Greek footballing landscape. So we may see more success with him at the helm with this current crop of players. It's just an interesting comparison and does raise the question of footballing philosophy. The quote in full: Για το τι έχει αλλάξει με τον Πογέτ: "Ο Πογέτ προσπαθεί να μας δώσει το winning mentality. Αυτό έχει αλλάξει περισσότερο. Με τον Φαν Σιπ παίζαμε περισσότερο με κατοχή, τώρα παίζουμε για να βάλουμε γκολ και όχι να κρατήσουμε την μπάλα". I completely agree and its kind of refreshing to hear.. Its more of a style the NT has always been accustomed to playing. There's no point to just keep possession if all the team is doing is back passing majority of the game which we seen a lot in the later days of JVS and lots of times the team just looked uncomfortable and confused at times. I don't wont to get my hopes up as we've seen what's happened in the past but I'm feeling optimistic so far.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaokCT Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I’m hearing rumblings of Santos returning. But I’m fine with JVS… for now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 JVS? Someone might wanna tell Poyet that he's been replaced by the guy who he replaced. In all seriousness though would be extremely dumb to change coaches now, Poyet did a great job in getting the team to top the Nations League group. We are in a tough qualifying group for Euro 2024 but changing manager doesn't magically make France or the Netherlands more beatable. Poyet has earned the right to see qualification through, including the playoffs. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, paokarag4 said: JVS? Someone might wanna tell Poyet that he's been replaced by the guy who he replaced. In all seriousness though would be extremely dumb to change coaches now, Poyet did a great job in getting the team to top the Nations League group. We are in a tough qualifying group for Euro 2024 but changing manager doesn't magically make France or the Netherlands more beatable. Poyet has earned the right to see qualification through, including the playoffs. I heard that a Portuguese reporter said EPO want Santos but Poyet contract runs until end of 2023. Poyet has the team playing well & got us promotion in NL and a playoff spot. He should continue through the euro qualification. Plus they can’t afford to pay both coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Santos was great for us but we cant go backwards now. Poyet deserves a chance to see what he can do. Plus there are no guarantees that Santos will magically make our team better as he doesn't have the same personalities and players he had when he was coaching this team. The make up of this team is very different he cant play his shut down style and grind out 1-0 wins with this current group we have IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 6 hours ago, J1078 said: Santos was great for us but we cant go backwards now. Poyet deserves a chance to see what he can do. Plus there are no guarantees that Santos will magically make our team better as he doesn't have the same personalities and players he had when he was coaching this team. The make up of this team is very different he cant play his shut down style and grind out 1-0 wins with this current group we have IMO. Agreed, but those were great times with Santos his record with the Ethniki was incredible. I miss the 1 nil wins and once we got up a goal it was almost impossible for the opposition to comeback on Greece. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 EPO have correctly come out and backed Poyet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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