Giourkas Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) ^again, what have they to show for it exactly Amo? 20 years of futility. In that time, PAO managed to top it's group on 2 occasions (2002, 2008), while having a fraction of the opportunities. Something they have been incapable of doing themselves... Edited January 27, 2016 by Giourkas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Of course dude, this is nothing new, you guys have virtually monopolized the league the last 20 years, as a result all the Euro revenue has come your way via the auto Champions League spot, over 20 years that has a hell of an effect. Look at the league now even the Greek youth development, the lack of advancement through the ranks of other clubs due to no revenue streams (as you get it all the time) and lack of new investment has a horrible effect on the domestic game. We are regressing not progressing under this system. 18/20 Championships to one team is a terrible stat and in the long run you guys will suffer from this too. You can def argue that, another case can be made though about the lack of good leadership by the owners of the other big clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Even with the rivalries a fan should be able to admit and give credit to a team that has achieved what PAO once did, nothing wrong with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Even with the rivalries a fan should be able to admit and give credit to a team that has achieved what PAO once did, nothing wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giourkas Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 You can def argue that, another case can be made though about the lack of good leadership by the owners of the other big clubs. Too bad they all can't be heroine smugglers and match fixers with connections to banned UEFA presidents.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Now yes you have done better, well who else can do anything when its only Oly collecting CL money and the rest get nothing? To be fair Pao has had a few shots at the CL money by qualifying rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Even with the rivalries a fan should be able to admit and give credit to a team that has achieved what PAO once did, nothing wrong with that I believe I did one page back. No shame in giving credit when it is due. They have gone a little further in the CL league than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 One thing to go through qualifying which is tough these days and another to win the league constantly and always get the $20 mill in your pocket. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 One thing to go through qualifying which is tough these days and another to win the league constantly and always get the $20 mill in your pocket. Big difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giourkas Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 A final is a "little further" than a 1/4 final says the red cool aid drinker... :lol: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Too bad they all can't be heroine smugglers and match fixers with connections to banned UEFA presidents.... Anyone can throw around allegations, but allegations are not facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giourkas Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) ^I forgot to add "who has connections to batsoi and the law.".. My bad! :lol: Edited January 27, 2016 by Giourkas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accor6 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Too bad they all can't be heroine smugglers and match fixers with connections to banned UEFA presidents.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Tzatziki you really think that fatboy isn't involved? His right hand man is in jail and you think he wouldn't be in on this? He is a greedy dog who cares for no one of course he is involved, anyone who cant admit that has issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeko Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Zagreb would crap all over PAO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Giourkas don't forget he is also koubari with that putana Bakoyianni Edited January 27, 2016 by Original Sydney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Tzatziki you really think that fatboy isn't involved? His right hand man is in jail and you think he wouldn't be in on this? He is a greedy dog who cares for no one of course he is involved, anyone who cant admit that has issues. Honestly I doubt it, he has a very successful shipping business, why risk going to prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giourkas Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 His businesses are being propped by illegal enterprises (OSFP being one of them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accor6 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 :D End of conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 :D End of conversation I get the impression that an actual conversation is not what some posters want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Very successful shipping business LOL please the guy is no where near the big shipping magnates of Greece, he is a wanabe and a fraud. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accor6 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I get the impression that an actual conversation is not what some posters want. What? :) Who? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Very successful shipping business LOL please the guy is no where near the big shipping magnates of Greece, he is a wanabe and a fraud. Have a look on Lloyd's list of the 100 most influential people in shipping, his company is reputable and pretty successful. He isn't #1, but he has been improving steadily. "Shipmanager Capital Ship Management is one of Greece?s most highly certified management outfits, and recently became the first shipping company worldwide to be successful assessed by Lloyd?s Register against the IMO Strategic Concept of a Sustainable Shipping Industry." http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/top100/article453388.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Wow you'll find another 30 Greeks noted as "most influential people" nothing new Then you believe he isn't involved in drug smuggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Why would any rational person believe such a ridiculous allegation? It makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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