Giourkas Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Chicken tactics?? Coming from a team referred to as rabbits and pankotaikos, that is rich! :DKotopoula me kranoi!!!! Familiar with that? Don't pretend you're not.... ;)Your association with chickens even cracked Greek mainstream culture: :lol: :lol: :lol: http://images.profileengine.com/large/428007368/.... Now be a good kotopoulo and "run" along! Edited February 2, 2016 by Giourkas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Now be a good kotopoulo and "run" along! I won't resort to name calling, although I have many good ones. It is like the saying goes, the customer is always right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 You wont resort too name calling? The same guy who has many times called me floriginal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 That's true, but I've since ceased to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giourkas Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Some guy tried to troll Cisse on Twitter: @DjibrilCisse remember when you got slapped off the Olympiakos fans in the Derby a few years ago ???????????????????? Cisse's response: @Hoginho89 remember this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaNFXS9W0AEingq?format=pjpg&name=large :lol: Edited February 2, 2016 by Giourkas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnikos Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 ^^^^YES CISSE :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 We will get a stadium ban for sure, but the law doesn't state anything about points being docked BUT its Greece and if fatboy makes a call to Kontonis as we know he has done it many times and since we are playing them this weekend, I expect any punishment to be given to us. F***en malakes using knives, hate that s%$#! throw some punches when you pull out a knife you have gone too far in my eyes.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnikos Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Alafouzo is pathetic, he is all talk zero substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethnikos Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Anybody know when we enter the new era? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Man Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 ^^^^ we need a real owner! a real goal scorer! a real captain(leader)!!...pateras..cisse..karagounis................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giourkas Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 So cocaine sniffing Tzigger, the failure of his family, the retarded son that raced cars cause he was too dumb to run the Billion Euro family business, is your winner? Lolololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I'll get into this fray against my better judgment..... So, it's the year when PAO owes tons of money, can't play in Europe and everything points to being relegated to a lesser division. Nobody wants to touch the club with a 10 yard pole. No one! Then Alafouzos enters the scene, I say, thankfully. He's a man who is rather ignorant of managing a football club and picking the right people for the important positions in the club. But he is the only one who dares take this club and ultimately save it from expulsion from the top tier. The first year, PAO, especially during the first round, was at the bottom of the standings! Alafouzos then restores some fiscal order, patches up Leoforos, and even manages to win a cup. Apparently he's not as wealthy as Tzigger (and the Vardi family) or Savidis, or Marinakis. Thus his ability is limited. He manages to convince many people to whom PAO owes a ton of money (from contracts of the old regime, not A's). Then people complain that he's not getting good (expensive) players or that he allows his people to bring in lame players, keep a bad coach, etc, etc.. All true. But, we have to ask, what was/is the alternative? The only person who wanted PAO is ..Tsakas :lol: (which reminds me how Tzigger allowed this clown to insult our club). Keeping things in perspective: Tzigger had far more $$$$ and he proved to be the worst owner of PAO ever! Count the titles PAO won during his tenure. But, for me, the worst was that he surrendered the league to the mob. The criminal elements that have destroyed football in Greece. Tzigger, therefore, is far more responsible not only for the team reaching bottom but for not fighting the criminal elements. The Vardinoyannis family is one of the richest, so his responsibility is greater because of his relative power. And, in the end, before he disappeared, and while PAO was in bankruptcy, he was asking $$ for rent for the training grounds at Paiania!!! None of us in here would do that to our beloved club, especially if were so rich, even if we felt slighted by people associated with the club. He used the club as a toy. A toy he didn't want others to have. He blocked the Gianakopoulos brothers several times. [Can you imagine if they had done to the football club what they had done in basketball??] Tzigger proved he didn't love PAO. To me this is a deadly sin and cannot be forgiven. :tdown: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Jvc you are deluded, i would rather have Alafouzos than the family back. Remember they are the reason we are in this situation? I don't know about that one, I think the fans that chased out the family are to blame. The fans got what they wanted. But the family ran the club much better than it is run today. I don't see what blame can be laid on them (Vards) for Pao's current state... Edited February 10, 2016 by Tzatziki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 And, in the end, before he disappeared, and while PAO was in bankruptcy, he was asking $$ for rent for the training grounds at Paiania!!! None of us in here would do that to our beloved club, especially if were so rich, even if we felt slighted by people associated with the club. He used the club as a toy. A toy he didn't want others to have. He blocked the Gianakopoulos brothers several times. [Can you imagine if they had done to the football club what they had done in basketball??] Tzigger proved he didn't love PAO. To me this is a deadly sin and cannot be forgiven. :tdown: A lot of good points in your post, and I agree with you, BUT, you can't wish cancer on someone's family and then be mad at them for not "loving" you afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 A lot of good points in your post, and I agree with you, BUT, you can't wish cancer on someone's family and then be mad at them for not "loving" you afterwards. If it were about me, I'd agree with you ;) But, in the final analysis, it was about PAO, and he proved how little and petty he was. The fans wanted him out because the mob was controlling the sport and he had practically surrendered to it; also, he had been a disaster as an owner given his $$$. As I've said before, I do not condone the language and much of the behavior of certain fans, but this is not an excuse for Tzigger. I stand by my point: Tzigger used the club as his toy and harmed our club more than anyone else. Like Pana97 says, you want Alafouzos' job, go and take it. Or, better yet, anyone who has big bucks could go and take the team. But, so far Alafouzos has been the only one who has stepped up! This has to be acknowledged! So, OK, we don't like this mess, we don't like his inexperience and mistakes. Again, what's the alternative???... I haven't heard that Alafouzos blocking someone like Gianakopoulos (or any big money) from getting the club like Tzigger did. Have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sydney Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 jvc firstly the way the league is no one will be winning it other than that 1 team. As for CL, whichever teams gets that 2nd spot from the playoffs faces a monster ask to qualify for the group stages especially when the bigger teams of Europe come into it in the last round. I love your ambition and ideas but atm they are abit too far fetched for the way your club is going, I would more be concerned about building a good squad and going from there, similar to what we at AEK have done BUT we still have work to do ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giourkas Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) In the end, the only people endorsing Tzigger are misguided PAO fans and Gavs (as demonstrated a couple of posts ago). From the Gav point of view, do we really need to ask why? :lol: Could PAO use an owner with deeper pockets and a bigger arostia for PAO than Alafouzo? Sure, you can always use one of those to fight the system. But Alafouzos is way preferable to Tzigger and family, who accepted the system. Let us not forget that while he has led our team, a bigger war on PAO has never been waged. Without him, it is entirely conceivable that the team would of been destroyed. AXARISTOI! :p Alafouzo is paying down PAO's debt (incurred under Tzigger's watch), without relegating our proud club to Gamma ethniki, he added a training facility to the team's assets (the Vardis promised this in 1979 and never did so), and he is on the verge of making key renovations at Leoforo (our HISTORICAL home) thus ensuring the club will not be left homeless like AEK or living off tax payers like the Gavs and over a team like Ethnikos Pireas. (New Karaiskaki stadium circa 2004). These are all facts. Edited February 10, 2016 by Giourkas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiPao13 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 But guys, alafouzo brought us a fat out of shape leto, 3 loser brazilians, and some other losers. they all suck. everyone must go. EVERYONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Man Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Why are even some of you arguing the fact that alafuzo is some what way useful???? 6 years or so and his won a cup and failed miserably in Europe lowest win rate and dropped out of the top 100..are Ye f ing mad??????? What are you guys mysteriously waiting for Greek justice system to change and all of sudden he becomes rich and wins the league on loan signings?????....get a grip guys I respect your views but no more lies and don't come back with cliche tzrigger was worse..this is alafouzo now what has he delivered that makes you think pao is in a new era!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Man Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Anybody but alafouzo right now....was meli always in the front for aek?? They are lurking pana bro just waiting for the right moment to strike..I agree the current state of Greek football don't help..but honestly alafouzo has to go we have had enough misery with trigger but this is really prolonging too much the point you even start to hate him as much!!! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiPao13 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 ITS OVER PANA97. I have always agreed with u, but the dream is over. this was so bad. we ate the goal in the 64th, not one chance on goal after... pathetic. complete embarrasement. LOSERS. THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION.. LOSERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeko Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Why did you sell karelis?! Essen took to long to get fit, and has had to many injuries! Why sign Leto??? He is finished! When oly lost the title in 2010, management made some big changes to get them back! Oly are not afraid to make some changes! No player is bigger then the team, the fans are the most important!! JVC has every right to be upset, the owner is to blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzatziki Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 In the end, the only people endorsing Tzigger are misguided PAO fans and Gavs (as demonstrated a couple of posts ago). From the Gav point of view, do we really need to ask why? :lol: Could PAO use an owner with deeper pockets and a bigger arostia for PAO than Alafouzo? Sure, you can always use one of those to fight the system. But Alafouzos is way preferable to Tzigger and family, who accepted the system. Let us not forget that while he has led our team, a bigger war on PAO has never been waged. Without him, it is entirely conceivable that the team would of been destroyed. AXARISTOI! :P Alafouzo is paying down PAO's debt (incurred under Tzigger's watch), without relegating our proud club to Gamma ethniki, he added a training facility to the team's assets (the Vardis promised this in 1979 and never did so), and he is on the verge of making key renovations at Leoforo (our HISTORICAL home) thus ensuring the club will not be left homeless like AEK or living off tax payers like the Gavs and ###### over a team like Ethnikos Pireas. (New Karaiskaki stadium circa 2004). These are all facts. Karaiskaki was built without one penny of tax payer money. Fact. Pao had better teams under the Vards. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giourkas Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Karaiskaki was built without one penny of tax payer money. Fact. Pao had better teams under the Vards. Fact. Re Karaiskaki: :lol: how is that other club from the port you use to share the old stadium doing these days? :lol: the new Karaiskaki is one of the few buildings from the 2004 Olympics still in use! Viva the socialist state for the ultimate support of THE Butter fed Club in Greece! :lol:Re vardinogiannides: the whole league was better then before the system (OSFP) destroyed it. FACT fact FACT!!! Edited February 10, 2016 by Giourkas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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