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one to the left

three from the middle

APATEONAS KARABINATOS

Everybody is advised by now.

Shall anyone contact NOVA to ask for the legitimacy of Ellastv transmissions? :LOL: :LOL:

Shall anyone contact RIK to ask how they ended up being used to offer a mask of legitimacy to crooks? :tdown: :tdown:

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Just a friendly warning guys. The owners of Ellas TV are the same ones who kept moving Mega Cosmos around to multiple platforms here in the U.S. They are being sued by Directv and wouldn't be surprise

Big deal....!!!!!tons of cheaper opportunities out there....and much better

The files are behind a paywall, but it looks like the lawsuit was initiated by ELLAS TV against TITAN for "Fraud or Truth-In-Lending", not the other way around. Titan controls the international rights

Hellas I understand what you are saying, maybe the person you talked to was just a sales person that doesnt have answers to many technical aspects that you asked. Also I will add that may not be professional at all in the way he communicated with you. If one person is found not professional does it mean that everybody is the same? Do you think that dishnetwork or direct tv have all professional employees? Is dishnetwork unprofessional company because someone may be? Anyway I will be happy to answer any of your questions you may have. So far the service is excellent and am very happy about it, I wish some of you try it. By the way they are adding more channels from the rest of greece such as MAD World, Pelopponisos, 4E thessaloniki. You will be impressed of the quality of the picture.

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UNAUTHORISED USE OF MEGA COSMOS, ALTER GLOBE, STAR INTERNATIONAL, MAD WORLD, RIK SAT

UBI holds the exclusive right to distribute many Greek channels in Australia and New Zealand including Mega Cosmos, Alter Globe, Star International, Mad World and Rik Sat and all their content. These distribution rights include all modes of delivery, including IPTV.

Any broadcast of these channels by third parties amounts to an infringement of our rights, which we will take action to prevent.

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Wait. Doesn't UBI also have the worldwide distribution rights to MAD World? It seems that they haven't even heard of Ellastv, yet Ellastv claim they got the rights to broadcast it just the other day....

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ELLAS TV HAS THE GREEK RIGHTS TO BROADCAST FOR NORTH AMERICA ....

FINAL .... WE END IT HERE .....

I AM CLOSING THIS DISCUSSION .....

ANY QUESTIONS JUST CALL

THANK YOU

ELLAS TV TECHNICAL SUPPORT

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ELLAS TV HAS THE GREEK RIGHTS TO BROADCAST FOR NORTH AMERICA ....

FINAL .... WE END IT HERE .....

I AM CLOSING THIS DISCUSSION .....

ANY QUESTIONS JUST CALL

THANK YOU

ELLAS TV TECHNICAL SUPPORT

Yep, do call. Call Mega Cosmos for instance--you will find out what Ellas TV doesn't want you to know.

You can't close this discussion because

1) you are not a moderator

2) you didn't open it

3) you never really took part in it. No questions about the legal status of the service have been answered--you simply made claims with no support.

So if you thought this was just a forum for you to come and find people to exploit, and make false claims like "Mega Cosmos and Alter Globe are moving to your platform" you got it very wrong.

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Hello Friends,

“If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must Man be of learning from experience?” George Bernard Shaw

History repeated itself many times with Greek satellite programming providers in the USA; enough times for us the Greek consumers to learn a lesson.

Regrettably, including myself, we did not listen and we did not learn. Every time we fell into the trap and only aggravated ourselves and wasted our valuable time and money.

Simply it all boils down to; "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Without taking any credit away from other members who always diligently try to update us, Harlem Reporter presented an excellent Greek saying that summerized the whole situation: "Kai i (Home2US) milonou ton andra tis me tous pramateftades (Directv, Dish)."

And on that note I have to say: “Mia tou klefti, dyo tou klefti, treis kai tin kaki tou mera”

I am fully aware that Cablevision and Verizon Fios TV are not any different from Dish or DirectTV in their business practices and customer service, as all of them have an equally vast amount of “valid” complaints across the country. But for my two cents, Cablevision is offering MEGA and ANT1 and Verizon Fios TV offering ANT1 only with the verbal promise that Verizon soon will be adding at least one more Greek channel. It remains to be seen.

As for me, with the new technology, I rather invest the money for an internet ready TV and enjoy the plethora of Greek entertainment available over the internet, rather than becoming a sucker one more time for the pleasure of HOME2US or anyone else for that matter.

Regarding the ‘Greek Media Group’ they are not even worth dignifying them with negative comments, and as far as MEGA is concerned, they should allow their program streaming over the internet, perhaps even for a fee, instead of blocking it in the USA by saying: “We’re sorry, currently our video library can only be streamed within Greece”.

HELLOOOOOO!!! KOUTHOURAKIA OF MEGA!!! TV is free in Greece, at least for the Greek channels.

We are paying to receive your channel and what you provide? Couple of new shows, advertised to start in September but they don’t start until November, and then after a month or two you either drop them altogether without any explanation and start broadcasting repeat episodes or broadcast old shows over and over again.

You must wake up and realize that you are killing the goose that lays the golden egg for MEGA.

Lastly, I have to make one final confession; my first wife left me when Dish Network dropped Mega and she lost her episodes of ‘Vera Sto Deksi’. My second wife is leaving me now because DirectTV dropping Mega and she is loosing ‘Ta Mystika Tis Edem’.

I am mad as hell, and I am not gonna take it anymore. My third wife has to sign a contract promising that she will not get emotionally involved with Greek soap operas. And please, don’t anyone make a suggestion to find a non-Greek wife. (Just kidding)

Again, my sincere thanks to all the members and wish you all KALO PASXA

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HellasTV is broadcasting Mega Cosmos under their platform. For some reason they increased the price of their box to $254 from 220 plus 14 shipping that used to be. Anyone from Hellas Tv can explain why this increase in such a short time. Pricing should be going down not up as you sell more. Simple economics.

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HellasTV is broadcasting Mega Cosmos under their platform. For some reason they increased the price of their box to $254 from 220 plus 14 shipping that used to be. Anyone from Hellas Tv can explain why this increase in such a short time. Pricing should be going down not up as you sell more. Simple economics.

They also eliminated pc viewing as an option (though they still have it listed in their packages). I guess they are really eager to make some money off these boxes before someone blows the whistle on them about stealing that signal and their whole operation is shut down.
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I think it’s interesting that they are a Comcast Authorized Dealer since Comcast led the way towards data usage caps.

I was going to put this post in the IPTV slot but here I go anyway.

I talked to Netflix and MLB.tv to get an idea on how much data Ellas tv and other similar IPTV add-ons use. I was told that SD streams are around 1Gig per hour and HD streams can reach 2.3 Gigs per hour. This means that if you watch 3 hours of SD on Ellas tv per day and catch 2 soccer games in HD during the week, you have already used up 52% of your allocated bandwidth for upper tier packages and 87% for lower tier and DSL packages. Add on some Netflix, Youtube, online gaming and you’ll have some extra surcharges coming at you.

Maybe that’s why Comcast has chosen Ellas to be an Authorized Dealer.

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If we are talking Comcast, since 2008 Comcast has a 250 GB cap on ALL residential internet accounts, no exceptions. If you pass it, you get notified with a warning. If you pass it again within 6 months of the first time, they can terminate your service and you will not be eligible to get service with them again for at least a year. More on that here: https://customer.comcast.com/Pages/HelpNFC....lse&id=aup-lite Each ISP has their own cap limits and terms though, but expect ALL ISPs to implement caps sooner rather than later, that's how the industry works. There is also the question if some ISPs will start throttling IPTV (if they already haven't started) like they have been accused of doing with torrents and online gaming over the years since IPTV and online streaming also using a good chunk of bandwidth. See more on throttling here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_throttling and http://www.pcworld.com/article/158552/is_y...connection.html

IPTV may be OK for some people, especially those that only watch TV a few hours a day or do not have caps (yet), but I do not see IPTV as a viable option for the older folks who love to have their TV on all day, those who want more than one receiver, or those who like to do other things on the net as well. (Netflix, youtube, gaming, torrents, etc) What is interesting with EllasTV's situation, is that they seem to be going with the "have it all" sales approach which is unrealistic in my opinion. Someone who actually cares to have all the channels available from Greece would probably spend a good portion of the day watching them and would easily go over their bandwidth cap. If you factor in HD sports viewing it is even worse. All this is not even factoring in the obvious legality issues of this service too.

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I have netflix streaming and DSL from verizon for many years, for the past month am using Ellas Tv I never had any issues of going over bandwidth cap as you mention and I never heard of anyone being terminated of the contract because of over usage of internet speed. I dont know under what circumstances the cable company or verizon will drop your service for over useing it.

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Correct, Verizon does not have any bandwidth caps yet. I believe OSFP18 was referring to AT&T U-verse and DSL service caps which are set to go into place soon.

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Well this is REALLY interesting. I e-mailed Comcast to see if Ellastv really is an Comcast Authorized Retailer, and check out the response:

Dear _____,

Thank you for contacting Comcast Cable. My name is Celemar and I

appreciate your taking time to email us about your concern today.

I understand that you would like to verify if EllasTV.gr is an

authorized retailer of Comcast. I certainly know this is of great

concern to you to validate if they are a legitimate site. I am glad that

you took the time to email us this concern. I will be happy to provide

you the list of our online retailers to help resolve your inquiry. Rest

assured that your question will be answered in this email.

Comcast customers can purchase our products from retail or retail

(online) partners, such as Best Buy. Comcast services are then offered

at promotional rate in conjunction with discounts on products such as

televisions and computers. Once the customer purchases the service at

the retail partner, they will contact Comcast to place the order.

Etail (online) partners are independently operated websites in which a

customer can obtain information regarding Comcast products and services

and also place an order for services.

Many times special offers or rebates are offered toward the purchase of

Comcast services at these authorized websites.

Amazon www.amazon.com

Bridgevine (Formerly Broadband National) www.comcastspecial.com

www.comcastadvantage.com

Elephant www.BuyComcast.com

www.homes.org

Dell www.dell.com

Acceller www.digitallanding.com

www.comcastpromotion.net

www.comcastpromotion.com

www.comcastoffer.com

www.comcastauthorizedoffers.com

Leapfrog www.BroadbandOffers.com

www.comcastcableoffers.com

www.comcastservice.com

www.comcastphoneoffers.com

www.comcastoffers.com

As of the moment, only these websites are the authorized Comcast

retailers. If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reply

to this e-mail.

Thank you for choosing Comcast. We appreciate you giving us the

opportunity to help you with your concern as we continue to strive for

outstanding customer service experience. We value your business, _____.

Have a great day!

Sincerely,

Celemar

Comcast Customer Care Specialist

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Well this is REALLY interesting. I e-mailed Comcast to see if Ellastv really is an Comcast Authorized Retailer, and check out the response:

Dear _____,

Thank you for contacting Comcast Cable. My name is Celemar and I

appreciate your taking time to email us about your concern today.

I understand that you would like to verify if EllasTV.gr is an

authorized retailer of Comcast. I certainly know this is of great

concern to you to validate if they are a legitimate site. I am glad that

you took the time to email us this concern. I will be happy to provide

you the list of our online retailers to help resolve your inquiry. Rest

assured that your question will be answered in this email.

Comcast customers can purchase our products from retail or retail

(online) partners, such as Best Buy. Comcast services are then offered

at promotional rate in conjunction with discounts on products such as

televisions and computers. Once the customer purchases the service at

the retail partner, they will contact Comcast to place the order.

Etail (online) partners are independently operated websites in which a

customer can obtain information regarding Comcast products and services

and also place an order for services.

Many times special offers or rebates are offered toward the purchase of

Comcast services at these authorized websites.

Amazon www.amazon.com

Bridgevine (Formerly Broadband National) www.comcastspecial.com

www.comcastadvantage.com

Elephant www.BuyComcast.com

www.homes.org

Dell www.dell.com

Acceller www.digitallanding.com

www.comcastpromotion.net

www.comcastpromotion.com

www.comcastoffer.com

www.comcastauthorizedoffers.com

Leapfrog www.BroadbandOffers.com

www.comcastcableoffers.com

www.comcastservice.com

www.comcastphoneoffers.com

www.comcastoffers.com

As of the moment, only these websites are the authorized Comcast

retailers. If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reply

to this e-mail.

Thank you for choosing Comcast. We appreciate you giving us the

opportunity to help you with your concern as we continue to strive for

outstanding customer service experience. We value your business, _____.

Have a great day!

Sincerely,

Celemar

Comcast Customer Care Specialist

So, how long will this go on? Why is nobody going after them? This is ridiculous...
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Probably until Hollywood finds out and enforces their content control. The only way the Greek channels will really step it up is if they are pressured by an outside party to take action IMO. (like the content distributors pressuring them to enforce their Greece only rights) ANT1 seem to be the only ones that really go after misuse of their content, but this service does a good job of hiding the fact that they even offer ANT1.....

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For those interested to Ellas Tv am happy to inform you that the following channels have been added to our programming. ERT world, ET-1, ET-3 Mega channel, Mega Cosmos, Alter Channel, Star, Ant1, Alpha, Skai, Macedonia TV, Ellada TV Peloponissos, RIK Sat, Kanali Voulis, Disney XD in Greek, Boomerang, Nova Sport1, Nova Sport2, Nova Cinema 1, Nova Sport 4. Also included approximately 40 greek radio stations and Greek movies on demand for free. If you have any questions please call me at 917-4497607. It requires internet connection only near your tv. The receiver comes with a remote control for only $254.00 More channels are being tested and will be added soon to our programming including NET and Kontra TV, Olympiacos channel and many more.

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