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1 hour ago, PaokCT said:

It’s a goal and dream of mine to go work over there with the women’s soccer federation and help improve it. I coach in the US at a high level for women’s soccer and I want to help create a feeder system between girls here and there that can improve the quality of play. 

Well, you made the first step by speaking with the coach of the women's team on the podcast. Make your move.

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Benfica scored over 100 goals this past year in their league in 15 games

the men DONT win the league and are irrelevant in europe, i know what I would prefer

We are talking about a purely amateur competition. Don't understand why somebody would put the team down, when they are trying their best and bring titles to our beloved team. This might not mean much

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5 hours ago, PaokCT said:

It’s a goal and dream of mine to go work over there with the women’s soccer federation and help improve it. I coach in the US at a high level for women’s soccer and I want to help create a feeder system between girls here and there that can improve the quality of play. 

The problem being, if you don't have a grass roots level system, how can you have an elite system.

It would be like Australians trying to compete on an international level in Ice Hockey, or Americans in cricket.

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Correct. Needs to start at a grassroots level. But interest needs to be there first. If you can get a couple quality players to go overseas and play for PAOK, then we may do better in Europe , raising awareness for the team. Then we could start doing clinics, camps, etc...

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52 minutes ago, PaokCT said:

Correct. Needs to start at a grassroots level. But interest needs to be there first. If you can get a couple quality players to go overseas and play for PAOK, then we may do better in Europe , raising awareness for the team. Then we could start doing clinics, camps, etc...

I have thought of this previously. The easiest way for the club to do this would be to scout some girls of Greek descent here or in NA or maybe Germany where they've had a more extensive grounding than the greek girls.

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PAOK women’s football team accomplished a new record. In today’s championship game against Agrotikos Asteras Aghia Varvara they scored 15 goals. With this win PAOK finishes the season winning Group 1 (North) with 30 points and a record of 10 wins and 0 losses. Goal difference 69:2.

The results of the regular season:

Round 1:    PAOK – AE Larisa  2:0
Round 2:    Doxa Drama – PAOK  0:3
Round 3:    PAOK – Trikala  8:2
Round 4:    Agrotikos Asteras Euosmos – PAOK  0:3
Round 5:    PAOK – Giannina  6:0
Round 6:    Elpides Karditsa – PAOK  0:5
Round 7:    Aris – PAOK  0:3
Round 8:    PAOK – Kastoria  14:0
Round 9:    Vasilisa Thraki – PAOK  0:10
Round 10:  PAOK – Agrotikos Asteras Aghia Varvara  15:0

1. PAOK     10  0   0   69:2   30 points

The team now will play in the championship final with the winner of the Group 2 (South) which is Avantes Chalkida. The final is on Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 20:30 EEST at Panthessaliko Stadium in Volos.

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6 hours ago, Blackhawk said:

PAOK women’s football team accomplished a new record. In today’s championship game against Agrotikos Asteras Aghia Varvara they scored 15 goals. With this win PAOK finishes the season winning Group 1 (North) with 30 points and a record of 10 wins and 0 losses. Goal difference 69:2.

The results of the regular season:

Round 1:    PAOK – AE Larisa  2:0
Round 2:    Doxa Drama – PAOK  0:3
Round 3:    PAOK – Trikala  8:2
Round 4:    Agrotikos Asteras Euosmos – PAOK  0:3
Round 5:    PAOK – Giannina  6:0
Round 6:    Elpides Karditsa – PAOK  0:5
Round 7:    Aris – PAOK  0:3
Round 8:    PAOK – Kastoria  14:0
Round 9:    Vasilisa Thraki – PAOK  0:10
Round 10:  PAOK – Agrotikos Asteras Aghia Varvara  15:0

1. PAOK     10  0   0   69:2   30 points

The team now will play in the championship final with the winner of the Group 2 (South) which is Avantes Chalkida. The final is on Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 20:30 EEST at Panthessaliko Stadium in Volos.

I found a replay on youtube, i'm going to sit down and watch it.

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I am going to sound miserable but it really doesn't mean much. For as long as I can remember they have been winning the league and losing in the initial rounds of Women's CL. Some of the losses in Europe were quite heavy too.

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We are talking about a purely amateur competition. Don't understand why somebody would put the team down, when they are trying their best and bring titles to our beloved team. This might not mean much to you, but to the players and staff it is a great deal and should be encouraged to continue to improve.

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12 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

We are talking about a purely amateur competition. Don't understand why somebody would put the team down, when they are trying their best and bring titles to our beloved team. This might not mean much to you, but to the players and staff it is a great deal and should be encouraged to continue to improve.

I think it's great for them. They are winning trophies domestically and having a great time. The whole situation just reminds me of those teams like Tre Fiori (San Marino) or B36 Torshavn (Faroe Islands) who almost always win their domestic title before getting knocked out in the first or second qualifying round of the Champions League (sometimes even the Preliminary!). Great, you win the domestic league but are then non-existent in Europe.

Anyway, the girls are doing their thing - they shouldn't care about what a grumpy git like me thinks.

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12 hours ago, Nea Bafra said:

the men DONT win the league and are irrelevant in europe, i know what I would prefer

Let's be honest dude, we all would rather have the men who at least provide us with around 5 away European away games most seasons.

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2 hours ago, Athens4 said:

Let's be honest dude, we all would rather have the men who at least provide us with around 5 away European away games most seasons.

there is a big difference between "we all would rather" and "it really doesn't mean much". Yes I would rather our men swept aside all before them and became a juggernaut of european football, but I don't discount the efforts and professionalism despite the disrespect shown them and the lack of pay of our women footballers by saying it doesn't mean much.

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On 6/16/2021 at 12:52 AM, Nea Bafra said:

there is a big difference between "we all would rather" and "it really doesn't mean much". Yes I would rather our men swept aside all before them and became a juggernaut of european football, but I don't discount the efforts and professionalism despite the disrespect shown them and the lack of pay of our women footballers by saying it doesn't mean much.

Again, I reiterate that the gals should not be the slightest concerned about what people like me think. As long as they are doing what they love and winning, then that is really all that matters.

The lack of pay is completely different topic. At least in professional sports, people are paid most where there is a demand. Compared to men's football there is minimal demand for women's. Most football fans probably couldn't name more than a few female players without looking them up. I myself can recall only Rapinoe (and even then I still don't know her first name). The fact that people are angry about female footballers not receiving the same pay is worrying. It shows a clear lack of understanding and (dare I say it) almost a Socialist view on competitive sports where males and females differ. I never hear anybody complain how female models earn more than their male counterparts, which is based purely on looks and not ability. (After reading your post, I may have jumped the gun and assumed you meant equal pay - please tell me if I misunderstood your comment).

Of course, this is completely different to regular jobs where everyone should indeed be entitled to equal pay.

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20 hours ago, Athens4 said:

Again, I reiterate that the gals should not be the slightest concerned about what people like me think. As long as they are doing what they love and winning, then that is really all that matters.

The lack of pay is completely different topic. At least in professional sports, people are paid most where there is a demand. Compared to men's football there is minimal demand for women's. Most football fans probably couldn't name more than a few female players without looking them up. I myself can recall only Rapinoe (and even then I still don't know her first name). The fact that people are angry about female footballers not receiving the same pay is worrying. It shows a clear lack of understanding and (dare I say it) almost a Socialist view on competitive sports where males and females differ. I never hear anybody complain how female models earn more than their male counterparts, which is based purely on looks and not ability. (After reading your post, I may have jumped the gun and assumed you meant equal pay - please tell me if I misunderstood your comment).

Of course, this is completely different to regular jobs where everyone should indeed be entitled to equal pay.

this is a discussion to be had with a beer and some mezedes. god willing one day we can all catch up in a taverna in toumba before a game and do this. suffice to say it's not about equal pay, it's about fair pay.

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The women will know their fate for the new CL as the draw is tomorrow. In the champions path 11 groups will be formed for a mini tournament with two seeded and two unseeded team. PAOK is seeded. First match (semifinal) is at home as the team with the highest coefficient plays at home (August 18). Second game (final or third-place match, but why on earth do they play that third-place match anyway?) the team with the highest plays at home. 

11 winners advance to round 2 with the other three teams that start in that round. The seven winners of that two-legged pairing advance to the GS. 

Lets see where the girls stand. 18 clubs have a better coefficient than PAOK in round 1. And 2 teams in round 2, if ..........

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Group 7
PAOK (GRE, 2) vs Agarista CSF Anenii Noi (MDA, 4)
Vålerenga (NOR, 1) vs Mitrovica (KOS, 3)

Good draw for PAOK as the Norwegians have a coefficient of 9.800 and PAOK 7.000. In another group the #1 and #2 seeds were drawn together. 

Good luck!

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