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    Posted · Edited by Alphonse

    Greece can play attacking football and we saw that when JVS took over initially, we had a period of success from 03-10 which was quite defensive because we had world class defenders and that continued to 2014 cause we had players like Samaras, Salpigidis and Mitroglou that could create and score.

    We dont have these players anymore, we need to get on with it with the new guys we have, they are talented but really lack big game experience as we saw in the meltdown with Sweden away. JVS for what ever reason, decided to drop his play, when we played good football and we had to watch a horrible 5-3-2 which worked on couple of occasions, the first in the last 30 mins vs Sweden in Athens and the first 45 mins vs Sweden away from home. For the rest of it, it was just a fail.

    Reverting back to defensive schemes of Otto and Santos days wont bring the success we once had, we need a smart coach that can play to our abilities in all facets and, we hopefully find a good central midfield combo.

    Bajevic has not coached much recently... I wouldn't be looking at him

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    AEK » Daily Team News

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    It was a very good game to watch but heart breaking for me to watch us give up these goals, credit to Aguibou Camara on Olympiakos's opener, but the off side attempt by Vranjes on El Arabi was amateurish, on such a stage... 

    As for Mantalos, was much better in this game and in the season for us in general than anything we saw with the Ethniki, my only criticism of him lately is, he has been very wasteful in front of goal.

    This is def something for AEK to build on though and hopefully Meli realizes (again) that we need a better defense  

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    AEK » Daily Team News

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    Our horrible defense gifted Olympiakos another win over us... We played well for the most part, sadly Zuber and Garcia went missing but the other guys really rallied, just a shame we have them 2 goals.

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    2022 WCQ: Greece - Kosovo (14 Nov. 2021, 21:45 EEST - Olympic Stadium, Athens)

    in Greek National Teams

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    On 11/16/2021 at 2:54 PM, DiogenesLight said:

    If we go by form then Bakasetas is the most consistent greek player week in week out for his club and should be starting every game (the ultimate irony 🤪). I'm kidding of course but what did Pelkas do that made him better? Not that I think that Bakasetas is any better...but the end result was just as bad if not worse without him. Same goes for Tzavella who gets a lot of hate but were we any better when Man/Papa/Siovas were playing? 

    I think a definite issue is lack of leadership....maybe Bakasetas and Tzavellas show some character to JVS and that's why they start but these guys aren't going to be the ones to take carry the team forward and I really don't know who will....Papadopoulos would have been great if he wasn't made out of glass and I don't see anyone else on the horizon.

    To say Pelkas is better than Bakasetas is simply ridiculous IMO, both are average, Bakasetas has had so many chances to prove his worth and has come up with some ok momemts, the Sweden win the biggest and best of the lot. Pelkas has been poor with the Ethniki and at club level, Baka also gets the edge, just cause Pelkas runs faster doesn’t make him better.

    2022 WCQ: Greece - Spain (11 Nov. 2021, 21:45 EEST - Olympic Stadium, Athens)

    in Greek National Teams

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    My thoughts to that - 

    37 minutes ago, J1078 said:

    Here’s my issue with replacing JVS, number one we can’t keep switching coaches every year and expect to build chemistry within the team as each coach will have a different philosophy and be looking for different type of players that fit the style of play he wants to play. What if we replace JVS with another coach that takes us back to the old style of Greek football just sitting back and playing boring ass football?? Then what? Those days are done we don’t have those type of players to just sit back and defend for 90 minutes without conceding a goal it won’t happen. JVS has made a lot of mistakes and I can’t stand his in game decision making regarding subs, I also can’t stand how we put certain players in certain positions and some of the call ups he makes, BUT he has had this team for the most part with the exception of some very boring and head scratching games playing  some very exciting football it looks like we have speed and if he can just get it through his head that certain players Should not be starting I think he can build something good. I personally think knowing the EPO’s budget will never get a high end talent here in regards to a coach I think we give him one more shot for the nations league. This division that we were in was a difficult division you probably had one of the better second seeded teams and we beat them once and could’ve easily beat them the second game if it wasn’t for some unlucky bounces. Where JVS needs to improve is playing against the weaker teams and finding a way to get a result but as we saw today it’s not that easy as Georgia beat Sweden in a huge game for Sweden.  I think if Fortounis comes back and having Tzolis and Douvikas and Masouras alternating we should be able to build a decent team. This is my thinking right now I’m not 100% saying I want JVS to stay but I think the team has definitely improved under him and has found some chemistry and have finally found a little bit of an identity they want to play with. Remember guys Ranieri couldn’t beat the Faroe Islands and Skibbe couldn’t beat Estonia in Athens in a huge game. We just need to be careful if we replace him we may go backwards as I think this team hopefully will continue to improve under him. Just my thoughts right now

    My thoughts on this,

    One of the reasons I was for JVS initially was the style of play he HAD us playing but file, I really feel he has fallen back from this advancement, look at nearly all our games this campaign, its been shambles... 

    The only time we have played ball was in the last 30 mins vs Sweden in Athens and the first half in Sweden, we have shown so little outside of that and it got us nowhere but for the lucky win over Georgia.

    For the most part we have almost expected the win to happen without really playing any nice football, the exciting football was played was when he came in and we played wingers like Limnios and had Fortounis in the middle but now he is set on Bakasetas who slows that dynamic down too. 

    We got some good talent but he is making a meal of that too, taking off Masouras today was a bad move, starting Pavlidis who has been pretty poor of late with his play... I am just seen constant mistakes and poor management, I was defending him for some time too but all I am seen is mix and matching players, and poor tactics with Tsimikas,Giannoulis, Alexandropoulos, Bouchalakis, Baka, Pav, Androutsos etc... 

    Today for me was the icing on the cake, ive had enough of the mistakes.

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    AEK » Daily Team News

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    He should be ok but we should know soon.

    Big test v an in form Aris coming up.

    Our attack is ok, our defence is still a big concern, in the last two games with Atromitos and Volos we were exposed early on, Volos was actually very unlucky to not open the scoring which could have changed things. Good test v Aris and keen to see if Giannikis keeps Mitoglou as a starter and Tzavellas on bench

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