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    Cyprus vs. Greece ( 7 October 2017, GSP Stadium, Nicosia )

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    20 minutes ago, J1078 said:

    ^ I get what you are saying but I'd rather focus on getting In first and then worry about who play in the playoffs.. we showed what we can do against big teams the way we played against Belgium so let's just find a way to sneak in and hope everything falls into place then we will worry about the playoff match..

    Yes I agree, let's JUST make the playoffs and then we will navigate from there. Croatia have a talented squad but I watched them today vs Finland and they looked as bad as we did vs Estonia. They were lucky to get there goal on a breakdown. Finland had a chance in stoppage time to win it.

    Even Italy at home could only manage a draw with the Skops and they have looked like a mediocre side the last 3 matches. I like our chances with almost anyone except if France falls into play.

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    Cyprus vs. Greece ( 7 October 2017, GSP Stadium, Nicosia )

    in Greek National Teams

    Posted · Edited by Ellada2004

    1 hour ago, J1078 said:

     

    We need the following,

    England to beat Slovania

    Montenegro vs Denmark to draw 

    Scotland to beat or Draw against Slovakia

    Germany to beat Northern Irleand

     

    These would be the best results for Greece. 

     

     

     

    Hopefully we get those results, Germany always want to win and comfortably as well so I see a 2 or 3 goal win vs North Ireland. Hopefully Norway can defeat them at home on the last match day.

     

     

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    Cyprus vs. Greece ( 7 October 2017, GSP Stadium, Nicosia )

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    5 hours ago, gsots said:

    Until we see the line ups for Belgium Bosnia, it's tough to say. Bosnia needs this and Belgium doesn't, but Belgium has enough skill in their depth to cause Bosnia problems. And Belgium will be playing loose cause they have nothing to lose. Bosnia can't afford to F*** up, but Belgium can, which will calm the nerves of younger Belgium players. 

    One things for sure though, in my mind anyway, Skibbe has to go if we don't make the playoffs. He started of better than we all could have dreamed, then he decided to go to lala land and never came back. 

     

    I personally liked the hire of Skibbe and in the beginning he had his tactics right and the team started of with 3 wins from 3 games and in the next game he got the late draw with Bosnia. He set the team up well in Belgium and were so close to a famous victory but since then he has disappointed especially the Estonia match where it looked like he was playing for a draw and after the game he seemed content with the draw?  If they win that match at home vs an inferior team then the playoff spot is virtually ours and we are not going through all these different scenarios. I believe he has to get us to the playoff at the very least to hold his job.

     

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    Road To Russia 2018 FIFA World Cup

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    1 hour ago, kbxk508 said:

    Greece has 10 pts and goal difference +3, after discarding the result with Gibraltar (6th placed team in Group H). Aside from relying on Belgium drawing or beating Bosnia, then

    If Greece can beat Cyprus and Gibraltar in last 2 matches, Greece standing with respect to 2nd spot will be 13 pts and goal difference +4 or better.

    Will this be good enough?

    Group D:

    Serbia 18

    Wales 14

    Ireland 13

    Worst scenario: Wales finish on 20 pts with wins away to Georgia (6/10) and at home to Ireland (9/10). This would make it mathematically impossible for Greece to better them as a 2nd placed qualifier.

    2nd scenario: Ireland finish on 19 pts with wins at home to Moldova (6/10) and away to Wales (9/10). In this scenario, if Greece wins both its final 2 matches, we would be equal points with Ireland. Greece's goal difference is +3 (7) and Ireland 0 (7). Ireland would have to better Greece's result by 3 or more goals. Unlikely. 

    Best scenario for Greece: Georgia draw with Wales (6/10) / Ireland draw or defeat Wales (9/10).

    Group A:

    France 17

    Sweden 16

    Netherlands 13

    Bulgaria 12

    France play Bulgaria away. Bulgaria have won all 4 home qualifiers, but lost 4-1 to France in France.

    Sweden at home to Luxembourg (7/10) and Netherlands away to Belarus (7/10) should be easy wins for them.

    Netherlands play at home to Sweden (10/10)

    Worst scenario: France and Sweden finish on 20 or more points.

    Best scenario for Greece: Netherlands beat Sweden at home (10/10). In this scenario, assuming Sweden and Netherlands win easy matches on 7/10, then both finish on 19pts if Netherlands can beat Sweden. Sweden's goal difference +3 (6) and Netherlands +2 (7) if Belarus is 6th placed in Group A.

    Group E: 

    Poland 19

    Montenegro 16

    Denmark 16

    Key matches: Montenegro at home with Denmark (5/10) and away to Poland (8/10), Denmark at home with Romania (8/10).

    Poland play Armenia at home (5/10) and I expect them to win.

    Best scenario: Montenegro draws Denmark / draws or loses Poland / Denmark draws or loses to Romania OR Montenegro beats Denmark / loses to Poland. Montenegro goal difference +3 (6) and Denmark goal difference +4 (6). 

    Prediction: Too many results need to go our way for this Group and I can't see anything but a Denmark win vs Romania. 

    Group F: 

    England 20

    Slovakia 15

    Slovenia 14

    Scotland 14

    Key matches: Slovakia away to Scotland (5/10) and Slovenia at England (5/10).

    If Slovakia beat Scotland away would mean they are virtually guaranteed top 2 finish as their last match is at home with Malta (8/10). Assuming Slovakia draw with Scotland (5/10) then beat Malta, then they finish with 19pts +6 goal difference. Greece would need to beat Cyprus by more than 3 goals to better Slovakia.

    Best scenario: Scotland beat Slovakia (5/10), England beat or draws Slovenia (5/10), Scotland draws Slovenia (8/10)

    Group I:

    Croatia 16

    Iceland 16

    Turkey 14

    Ukraine 14

    Ukraine plays Kosovo (6/10) and Iceland plays Kosovo (9/10) which should be easy wins.

    Best scenario: Turkey beats Iceland at home (6/10) and draws Finland away (6/10), Croatia draws Finland at home (6/10), Croatia draws or beats Ukraine away (9/10)

    Bottom line: If Croatia beat Finland and Turkey fails to beat Iceland then at least 2 teams will finish on 20 points <assuming Kosovo don't cause an upset>

    ...

    Ps: All of this is meaningless, if we can't beat Cyprus or Bosnia doesn't drop points with either Belgium or Estonia.

    I think our best chance is in besting Group D either over Wales or Ireland. In Group F I think Slovakia could slip up. Thanks for the analysis can't believe we are at risk of being the worst 2nd place team should we get to 19 points. 

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