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Alexandropoulos and now Nikolau, along with Siopis are interesting additions. The future of the midfield is starting to show some shoots. CDM's aplenty there.
Another CM or two (like Galanopoulos) would be great to have come through. The Gaffer can call for Vasiliadis as a starting point.
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Donis, Tzolis and Vrousai have been underwhelming at Ethniki level.
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Without Fortounis Fetfa, Ninis or even Mantalos in the creative AM position, the cavlotic nature of the team cannot come to fruition.
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Galanopoulos (Alexandropoulis as cover perhaps), Vasiliadis and Fortounis or;
6. Alexandropoulis/Vasiliadis
8. Mantalos
10. Fortounis
There is attacking enterprise there.
Defence would depend purely how they perform on the day because it is hard to say.
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It would be interesting to read who would get the nod for most people, to pick two in each position in the midfield positions for the Ethniki:
DM: Kourbelis, Alexandropoulos; CM: Galanopoulos, (Injured so two others); ?? Perhaps Kourfalidis as one?
Need someone wth a deeper knowledge of the Greek player market then me in this case.
CAM: Fortounis. Fetfa? Other options- Ninis, Mantalos, Bakasetas, Pelkas. I hope they go in a different direction with the CAM position, they might have to look harder for talent.
Pelkas does a good job as Left Winger.
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As the midfield is the 'engine room' so to speak, Ethniki needs to have mids that are certainly firing, particularly in the 23-28 years age group.
Zeca is 33, Fetfatzidis 31, Ninis 31, Mantalos 30, Fortounis 29, Kourbelis 28, Pelkas 28, Siopis 27, Galanopoulos 24, Kourfalidis 19 and Alexandropoulos 18. There are not too many consistent performers at 18-19 that play for club teams, let alone National teams. It mainly shows a lack of depth that Alexandropoulos and Koufalidis are with the seniors atm. Great potential though definitely. It looks like Kourbelis DM, Galanopoulos (disappointingly very injury prone) CM, and Bakasetas, Pelkas or Fortounis as AM. I chose Alexandropoulos at CM because Gala is injured and he might be the next best option there.
I've changed my mind about having chosen Mantalos above. I feel that era of Ninis, Fetfa, Siovas, and Sokratis is slightly bygone. Mantalos is just over the other side, he is not in great form either. I still hope Manolas can do the business in future. Can be abit older as CB's and GK'rs.
Bouchalakis and Zeca do not impose themselves in matches, not dangerous enough to sit and play 60-80 matches for the team, like former mids that played over a hundred matches, 40 too many, for Katsouranis and 70 too many for Tziolis.
Poyet needs to look at early-mid twenties players to expose to international matches for the next campaign, for all positions, take a chance even. Alexandropoulos is playing well and perhaps Kourfalidis could get more opportunities now that they both have had some kind of national team exposure as reward for good form so, may as well keep them going for now 'But,' I'm expecting the eventual drop off in consistency levels, also due to lack of experience at national team level.
Generally, very young players, like Donis, Tzolis and maybe even Retsos come in, get banged up with injuries and go back out just as quick. Guys like Limnios and Koulouris found being consistent difficult. They may have absorbed the pressure abit, they are mid twenties now.
Rushing most young players hardly ever works long term.
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Team I'd pick barring injuries after two trials under Gus. Some players were unconvincing, like that fall from Mavropanos which resulted in Osmajic scoring the match winner.
Galanopoulos injured forever it seems and Manolas not in form. Assuming Manolas, Fortounis and Kourbelis show decent form, they get in. As for Ninis, Fetfatzidis, Sokratis and Siovas, their time in the Ethniki may have passed them bye, when we notice the gaffer not picking them in future.
In a 4 3 3 formation:
Vlahodimos (c)
Lyratzis Manolas Hatzidiakos Tsimikas
Kourbelis
Mantalos Alexandropoulos
Masouras Giakoumakis Pelkas
Subs:
Koulouris Douvikas Chatzigiovannis
Fortounis Kourfalidis Siopis
Mavropanos Goutas Kyriakopoulos. Saliakas
Paschalakis Athanasiadis
I do wonder if Poyet has a playing style and if he will be
able to put his inprint onto the national team and soon.
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4 hours ago, Dean97 said:
Some of you guys are not understanding how damaging one player can be on the field like Bakasetas. The guy provides nothing for this team. He is no Fortounis that’s for sure. I understand that we need better midfielders than Siopis and Bouchalakis but they aren’t that bad and we haven’t got anyone better apart from Alexandropoulos who is by far our best CM. That CAM position is such an important position we can’t afford to put someone like Bakasetas there. Again he offers nothing and he’s slow. He is the main reason why we looked awful in attack. We played better in the 1st half agianst Romania without him and then he comes on for the 2nd half and we have no attack at all.
Some of you that think Bakasetas isn’t the problem you need to open your eyes and realise what your watching. Yes, there are others that are not good enough but Bakasetas is by far the reason why we struggle in attack. All our opportunities and possible chances go to waste as soon as he touches the ball. We also have Pelkas and Mantalos who are better than him. It’s unacceptable to start him and name him captain. That’s a disgrace.
Going forward, it sounds like the gaffer should play Pelkas at no.10 (give Fortounis a chance to string afew good performances together at club level), Saliakas at RB, and Alexandropoulos as CM? Sounds good.
Btw, who was the Greek player that fell down and the scorer waltzed through and scored, just can't make out who that was.
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Three midfielders to consider if they show form when back from injury and not necessarily picked automatically are Fortounis, Galanopoulos and Koubelis.
I'm lead to believe that Manolas is not in the form required for the Ethniki, Sok and Siovas have still have issues with the EPO (more than likely with technical director Fyssas), and that Mavropanos along with Hatzidiakos are the form CB duo right now. Back ups to them would be Goutas and likely Kargas.
Saliakas was unlucky not to have been chosen in this lot of friendlies as he is showing good form.
Vlahodimos is a likely candidate as captain due to his excellent form at SL Benfica.
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12 hours ago, Ellada2004 said:
Our first half was very good and we could have been up 2 nil and in the end Greece got the win and kept a clean sheet which is great. Performance could have been better in the 2nd half but as Dean said when Bakasetas came on he hurt us with some poor passes and decision making. He warrants a call up based on his current club play but if he is to be a key part of our Euro qualification he has to perform much better as we can use Fortounis who is hands down a much better #10 or Alexandropoulos. I have confidence that Poyet will not build the team around Bakasetas unlike his predecessor if he keeps having these kinds off performances for the NT,
How is it that Baka.sek.as.gr pays like a ball-tearer for his club but chews like a cow for the Ethniki? He hasn't been given quality service to do something perhaps because it make no sense, unless blue and white aren't his colours or he isn't following through with packing his favourite socks for gameday or something. Then there is an even bigger problem
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On 3/19/2022 at 10:19 AM, Ellada2004 said:
Reports from England state George Baldock is very close to obtaining his Greek citizenship. Also Olympiakos are looking at a potential deal to bring him in as well.
Giorgos Mpordokoglou, bravo re maik!
A front three of
Masouras Giakoumakis Tzolis/Limnios is pretty 'excitement' too.
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Ok, so Siovas, Manolas and Sok didn't get in. Surely JVS, I mean Gus looked at all possibilities.
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Alexandros Tziolis could be a shout, he's not 38 yet.
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Ninis 31, Fetfa 31, Siovas 33, Sok 33, Manolas 30, all thirty or over. Some might not be the best option for the Ethniki but as long as they are all looked at, and given the same opportunity to make the Ethniki.
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I'd swap Alexandropoulos to be DM, with Galanopoulos to be CM. Would Poyet play 4 3 3 ? He will fall into line like all the others and play safety first with a 4 2 3 1. That would mean Kourbelis, Bouchalakis Zeca and Siopis come into the frame again. The fear will always be for this team, to never have only one DM. They always want two of them.
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Maropanos is ranked highest so guess what, he is the first CB, if not player period, picked, ahead of Sok, Siovas and Manolas. The figures are there for all to see.
The team chosen based on the figures :
Vlahodimos
(Masouras?) Mavropanos. Manolas. Tsimikas
Bouchalakis Siopis
Bakasetas
Masouras Tzolis
Pavlidis
I don't agree with. all these selections, I would prefer:
Giakoumakis or Douvikas ahead of Pavlidis
Limnios ahead of Tzolis (not Tziolis for those who don't know the diff)
Fortounis, Ninis or even Pelkas ahead of Bakasetas.
Galanopoulos or Alexandropoulos ahead of Siopis
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Based on those figures, Bakasetas will be CAM for the Ethniki so how that will look different to any other time, even with the new gaffer, will be interesting to see.
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Giorgios Jak-o-makis what a striker!
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Hope the new manager knows to insist on his players passing and husstling forward, alot more than backward. They often hold onto possession and go nowhere and it can be a hard watch.
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Vahodimos
Baldock Manolas Sokratis (c) Tsimikas
Bouchalakis Galanopoulos
Masouras Fortounis Tzolis
Douvikas
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That Donis Manager might be every bit as good as any of those Italian guys like Gattuso. As long as he has the player's respect, and he plays Manolas, Sokratis, Siovas and eventually Fortounis (injured).
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That comment in the Ange interview was in context with when he is done with his club coaching career, not ar this point in time.
One of the Greek hosts said to Ange at the end of the interview that he had it all planned out for Ange and that when he finishes his club commitments to then take over the Ethniki. Ange said it sounded perfect, as courtesy more than anything.
If Ange wins the SPFL that would catapult him right up there in the EPL crowd. Can't see him doing National Team managing anytime soon.
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5 hours ago, Greek Style said:
Don't me started on Fortounis I mean WTF how is this guy not playing? Manolas? JVS should be on his knees begging these guys to come back after he didn't want to play them.
Nope, JVS has Mavropanos to bring through now, alongside Tzavellas. To bring those CB's back, EPO would have to change the gaffer.
Fortounis has an ACL injury, return at best, mid 2022; JVS has Bakasetas as his CAM and captain as it stands anyway.
Manolas and Sokratis are welcome back but they ain't interested with current gaffer.
Not sure Siovas is welcome back.
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2 hours ago, Dean97 said:
I agree 100%. If we want the best for the team then we need to play the best players possible. I’m sick of past coaches playing limited players. Santos did it with Vyntra and Katsouranis. Skibbe did it with Tziolis and Tzavellas and now JVS is doing it with Bakasetas and Stafylidis. I don’t think Skibbe is better. They are propably level. But I appreciate JVS in trusting some of our youth. I have mixed feelings. I don’t know if he should stay or go. If he goes then we’ll propably get someone similar to him. If he stays then who knows what will happen. Will he learn from his mistakes? He didn’t learn from the nations league.
JVS should not stay there going forward because I for one would like to see Manolas, Sokratis and Fortounis there again. Also squad management during games can improve. Some fresh ideas going into future campaigns.
A new coach will not guarentee better results, although, trying a different approach might help things along.
2022-2023 Nations League: Northern Ireland - Greece (2 June 2022, 21:45 EET, Windsor Park, Belfast)
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With Tzavellas being called up again, just call up Stafylidis as well, and be done with it.