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  1. Here is a classy Osfp fanWe need more like that PAO should loooose PEACE
  2. This sounds like something I wroteI completely agree Bring in young Greeks who will play with heart and pride for PAO, not garbage foreigners that are here because no one else wants them!!! This is a Greek team after all, unless we want to emulate... Rangers... About Fyssas being a good "spy" for Greece? Timing is perfect PEACE
  3. He will play a lot at Benfica, they have no one better at his position Benfica is not better than last years PAO almost any team that would pay money to get him would be better than todays PAO... He should do well in an average league that has three good teams Sporting, Benfica, Porto I do not blame anyone for leaving PAO the owners and management have no loyalty or respect for the players There is no vision, no ambition and... no respect for the great PAO name Untill they bring back the confidence in the system, by getting a real coach, valuable young Greek players and managemant with ambition, I see many more leaving Aek here they come... PEACE
  4. Another loss of a long time Pao player to be replaced with... foreign garbage. Stop the bleeding ... Who is next? Seitaridis? PEACE
  5. BRAVO Osfp I always enjoy the European wins of any Greek team as if they were Panathinaikos Kontra stous tourkous akoma perissotero... I will see the game, I am waiting for the tape from Athens Very happy you beat Gs as much as PAO beat FB Gia na doume ki alles nikes!!! Kallh Tyxh sto Uefa ?/CL? PEACE
  6. The players said they want Schum out?What players, when, and where? I do not think Zatautas wants him out... Well that would be a good start. They wanted Santos out and we know they succeded. It is hard for me to cheer for this team even if they win I can only cheer for some players like Basinas, Seitaridis, Nikopolidis and especially Warzycha... Violence is NEVER the answer. If it were not for those few buttheads that attacked Paiania last year we could still have Makarian About keeping Schum: I am sure there are financial commitments that do not allow them to fire him They have fired much better coaches in the past. This will only change if the losses from attendance are greater than the losses of firing Schum... Money is ALL they understand. PEACE
  7. My mistake, I meant Georgos not Yiannis Vardinoyiannis
  8. In recent history the most promising and unforgetable moments for PAO: Warzycha goal at Ajax 0-1 ended in grief after the Athens result...so close to the final. Konstantinou goal at Barcelona 3-1 we were so close to triumph... Olisadebe goal at Porto 0-1 followed by the worst PAO game last year...ended the best chance any Greek team has had to win a real trophy!!! If what you are reporting is true and contra is not exagerating to keep us comming for more ...the Giannakopoulos bros purchase of PAO could possibly be the best thing to happen to our beloved Tryfilli!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know a lot of the Vardinoyiannis familly. I used to play football against Tzigger at the Athens College, he was the goalkeeper. I know many of the cousins... It is a big and powerful family, and many of them are decent people. I do not dislike them personally, but they are not good for PAO Especially Yiannis "kapetanios " is probably one of the least notable members of their Empire... I have to applaude them however for the PAO Academy which will always be their contribution to PAO Let's not forget that under their ownership, PAO has made the biggest impact in European football which counts more than a thousand Greek Championships!!! Bottom line Welcome Giannakopoulos if you can do for PAO football what you have done for Basketball YOU WILL BE PAO GODS... ONE European Championship, not three, is enough for me to worship you for eternity. PAULO THEE PARE THN PAE... PEACE
  9. Check the schedule guys, the last game is Dec 9 at Rangers!!! It will not be easy to beat the... third MANUre team at leoforos the way we play!!! If we beat Stuttgart it will be awesome and that is as far as we can go... A tie vs MANUre will be great A tie at Ibrox will be close to miraculous, and could happen if all the previous results are successful. That is a grand total of 5 points + 1= 6 if we are VERY lucky we could make it to the UEFA If we continue the same way as before I see us getting 1 more point ..maybe!!! If Manolis could come back by Dec 9 and is in form... I would hope that PAO would really go for the win at Ibrox, Rangers did not impress me, Stuttgart is definitely better. KALH TYXH PEACE
  10. Oso einai to PASOK exousia Kokalis is king NOT a coincidence... it is a miracle he is free, and not in Koridalos!!!
  11. PAULO THEE PARE TIN... YOU KNOW THE REST!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOO BAD ONASIS WAS NOT A PAO FAN...(WAS HE?) DOESNT ANYONE HAVE A "BARBA APO TO AMERICA?" PEACE
  12. I AGREE THAT THE ABOVE WOULD BE TRUE IF PAO AND THE REST OF THE TEAMS WOULD PLAY SPECTACULAR FOOTBALL THEN MORE FANS WOULD GO AND OF A BETTER "LEVEL" THAT WOULD GENERATE MORE MONEY THAT IS TRUE FOR TOURISM AND THAT IS WHAT GREECE HAS DONE RECENTLY ALSO THAT WAS DONE IN ENGLAND VERY SUCCESSFULLY THEY HAD THE WORST FAN VIOLENCE AND THE CHEAPEST TICKET PRICES WHEN THEY TOOK OUT THE STANDING ONLY STANDS, ELIMINATED HOOLIGANISM AND BROUGHT BACK THE FAMILIES IN THE FIELDS, THE FINANCIAL RESULTS WERE AMAZING! UNFORTUNATELY GREEK FOOTBALL IS VERY SUBSTANDARD... WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE OF GOOD GAMES IN EUROPE, THERE ARE VERY FEW GOOD MATCHES THE FANS THAT DO GO REGARDLESS OF THE QUALITY OF THE GAME ARE THE FANATIC ONES. THESE FANS LOVE THEIR TEAMS SO MUCH THAT ARE WILLING TO WATCH THE GAMES INSPITE OF THE DREADFUL QUALITY TO THESE FANS, PAO OR THEIR RESPECTIVE TEAM IS AN "AROSTIA" IT IS AN ADDICTION REALLY. IT IS THESE FANS THAT TEAMS WANT BECAUSE THEY ARE "A SURE THING" THEY WILL BE THERE WHEN EVERYONE ELSE IS GONE. SEASON TICKET HOLDERS ARE PART OF THIS COMMITED GROUP BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE USUALLY OLDER AND MORE MATURE THEY ARE NOT GUARRANTEED TO RETURN EVERY YEAR IF THE TEAM SUCKS, THEY ARE NOT AS BRAIN WASHED... TO SECURE THESE RETURN CUSTOMERS THE CLUB "LEADERS" CREATE PASSION AND MELODRAMA TO KEEP EVERYONE INTERESTED IT IS TO THE ADVANTAGE OF THESE FOOTBALL BUSINESSES TO HAVE A "SOLID CLIENT BASE" BY SECURING BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE THE FINACIAL SUPPORT OF THE FANATICS THESE COLORFULL FANS ADD TO THE EXCITEMENT OF THE GAME WITH THEIR PRESENCE IN THE STANDS. THE FLARES, THE FIGHTS, AND THE CHANTING ARE PART OF THE "SHOW" THAT ATTRACTS MORE SPECTATORS TO THE STADIA IF THE TEAMS PLAYED SUPERIOR "KICK ASS" FOOTBALL NONE OF THIS WOULD BE NEEDED, THE GAME WOULD BE INTERESTING ENOUGH TO BRING THE MASSES CLOSE TO THEIR FAVORITE TEAM , TICKET PRICES WOULD BE LOWER, THE STADIA WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE AND FANS OF ALL AGES AND GENDERS WOULD ATTEND I THINK THE ATMOSPHERE WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF ENTHOUSIASM WOULD BE HIGHER AND NOW ALL FANS WOULD BE CHEERING IN FULL STADIA INSTEAD OF EMPTY ONES... MORE MONEY WOULD BRING BETTER PLAYERS AND MORE SUCCESS, WHICH IN RETURN WOULD FILL THE STADIA! THIS HAPPENED TO GREEK BASKETBALL WHEN WE DID WELL IN EUROPE INTEREST ROSE, MORE FANS WENT TO THE GAMES, GENERATING FINANCIAL GAINS FOR THE TEAMS AND ALLOWING THEM TO BRING HUGE INTERNATIONAL NAMES. BASKETBALL NOW IS IN A DECLINE BECAUSE TOO MANY FOREIGN PLAYERS CREATED AN IDENTITY CRISIS FOR THE TEAMS AND THEIR FANS, BUT IT WAS GREAT WHILE IT LASTED AND IT WILL BECOME GREAT AGAIN IMAGINE HAVING THE SAME GLORY IN FOOTBALL AS GREEK BASKETBALL HAS HAD AT THE CLUB AND NATIONAL TEAM LEVEL!!!!!!! THIS IS THE OPINION OF A FANATIC THAT HAS LOVED HIS TEAM THROUGH THE WORST YEARS OF ITS HISTORY I HAVE ALWAYS RECOGNIZED THE SCAM THAT IS CALLED GREEK CHAMPIONSHIP AND HAVE CONDEMNED VIOLENCE AND STUPIDITY IN THE FAN RANKS THIS JOKE GETS COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL WHEN FANS HECKLE THEIR CLUBS PLAYERS DURING A NATIONAL TEAM GAME OR VISIT PAIANIA WITH THE INTENT OF HURTING THE PLAYERS AND COACHES... THAT KIND OF STUPIDITY IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR "PROTATHLIMA" AND ITS FANS AND WHAT KEEPS THE REAL FANS AWAY... UNFORTUNATELLY THE TEAMS KNOW IT REQUIRES TIME, WORK AND MONEY TO FIX WHAT IS BROKEN AND WOULD RATHER KEEP THE STATUS QUO THAT KEEPS THEM AFLOAT FOR THE TIME BEING THE RESULTS OF GOOD WORK ARE FELT WHEN OUR PAO MAKES US PROUD IN EUROPE, BUT THEN IN THE CUSTOMARY SHORTSIGHTED FASHION THAT THE TEAMS ARE RUN WE SEE THE RESULTS OF THE BREAKUP OF OUR GLORIOUS PANATHINAIKOS... THE ONLY WAY THAT ANYTHING WILL CHANGE IS WHEN THE FANS STOP GOING TO THE GAMES WHEN THE TEAM IS MASSACRED LIKE IT IS THESE DAYS EVEN THE MOST FANATIC AND "SICK" FANS HAVE TO REALISE THAT ABSTAINING FOR A WHILE IS THE ONLY LONG TERM REMEDY WE MUST SUFFER A LITTLE NOW TO AVOID "ETERNAL PAIN" PEACE
  13. Good luck in Germany with a team like that... SOS: save our souls but mostly our pride OXI ALLH PENATARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  14. Organised supporters are bad for the teams if they have an agenda instead of supporting the team These fans are usually the most fanatic and that has both advantages and disadvantages. I want to see the fans cheer for their team instead of booing the NT players because of club performance... Terrorising your teams coach because you think he is a traitor is riddiculous These are some of the actions that have given organised clubs a bad reputation Violence is another disease that has been introduced to Greek football by "organised Fans" These clubs breed hatred and intollerence towards other teams fans which makes money for the owners so they feed that "monster" It is all about the money. The club owners need these fans because they buy a lot of tickets. They are the only ones willing to travel every weekend to "fight" for their team... If the teams wanted to erradicate the fan clubs they would have done it already, by not selling them wholesale tickets... These clubs should be reformed and should exist to get fans together to have fun and enjoy their team, not to have a warrior mentality that they are out there to fight for their team and kick ass!!! Players are not encouraged by violence in the stands, they are distracted and disgusted by it Players are encouraged by cheers and flag waiving not abussive behavior! Peace
  15. Salut mec Ca fait longtemps que je nas pas ecrit en Francais... je crois que j'ai tout oubliers, mais je parle mieux que j'ecris...
  16. Aekole you are "ole" indeeed!!! Thank you for the fantastic news I just called that number and confirmed that HELLAS vs N. Ireland will be shown live at 9:00 am for the mere charge of... $20 The establishment is called "My Place" and is a Bar/Restaurant that is family friendly, kids are free. The address is 5452 Commercial Blvd in Huntington Bch, CA For those of you from outside the LA/ Orange county area that will be flying in, I suggest either SouthWest or Aloha airlines to Orange county airport or Jetblue to Long Beach airport, those companies have the best fares. If you need any help send me a PM All Greeks in So Cal should be there!!!
  17. How about Los Angeles? Could anyone tell me if it will be shown anywhere in So Cal? Eyxaristo poly
  18. Boys and girls. Considering the facts we should be delighted with 1-1. Pao was horrific in every aspect of the game. We were missing our best players, now add Kyrgiakos on the list We played with 10 for most of the second half The Scotts are talking about their Greek tragedy because they should have taken 3 points from that game... This team cannot play vs Ionikos and we expect to beat any semidescent team? It will be a pleasant surprise if we do not finish last and get beated badly in the next games. I only have hope and faith in the return of our injured players especially Bassinas and Manolis. It will be difficult to get ONE win and I hope that comes at least vs Stuttgart. To qualify for the Uefa we must get points away and that is not impossible if we get the full team back and they play more together, like a team... Good bye European glory, welcome protathlima missery. Thank you Vardinokauli for destroying our PAO. I hope you are as misserable as us real fans, but somehow I do not think you care... Yes we can do ok in the protathlima because all the teams SUCK!!! Pou katantisame... On a lighter note, we are so low we can only go UP PEACE
  19. Clover 22 and PAO 123, thank you for your kind comments. I hope Pao plays better soon and we recover in the Cl, at least by winning in Athens. I do not think protathlima is the answer to a failed CL run... If Shoum stays because we win the Greek league, after a bad year in the CL then I wish he would go. If he can turn things and we play well in Europe, then I hope he stays regardless of winning the Protathlima or not. If he were to go, I would love to see Rocha whom I loved as a player and coach for PAO. With Rocha we had great success and played attractive football On the other hand I never liked papou Daniil... Livathinos was one of my favorite players but I do not know him as a coach. PEACE
  20. I would give osfp the useless protathlima for the next ten years if Pao could get to the semifinals of the CL! Even if PAO wins it, that wIll never erase the humiliation of a 5-0 loss Only good results and the second round of the CL, or even a great run in the UEFA, could somewhat make up for the worst loss in the history of PAO in the CL Does beating the Greek cafenia make anyone proud? The protathlima is nothing but practice for the REAL league... 0-1 vs Porto, 1-1 and 4-1 vs Fener, 3-0 vs Anderlecht. Those results count more than a hundred wins vs osfp, Aek, Paok or any of the other poor little, barely surviving because nobody is supporting them, teams. 1-0 vs Arsenal, 3-1 vs Juve, wins in Germany and great performances is what makes PAO the best team in Greece, not beating osfp... ELLAS EUROPH PANATHINAIKOS PEACE
  21. Good football is very important, that is why we watch it, it is a spectacle! osfp has to win in Greece and tie in Turkey, or at least loose by less than they won in Greece... I will always support Greek teams vs foreign teams in every sport. Because Galata is Turkish makes it even more important to win. Internationally, teams represent their countries more than they do themselves The results are relevant to the ranking of the country that accounts for the number of teams allowed in European competition Simply all Greek teams have benefited from Panathinaikos' great European success and point gathering. Aek would have been at the Uefa cup and Greece would only have 4-5 teams in Europe. No matter how fanatic and narrow minded one can be, the math speaks for itself It is to all the teams advantage if Greek competition does well in Europe!!! Pao, Aek, even Aris have done well in Europe... Maybe this is Gauros' year to make us proud? When in Europe, ANTI-Gauros=ANTIGREEK I am very pleased to see most fans agree, by the poll results, that we are Greek first and then Football fanatics ELLAS... EUROPH... PORTOGALIA... PEACE
  22. If PAO continues to play like this Sat vs Ionikos, I doubt they will beat anyone in Europe This years team has not played well once... Rangers and Stuttgart are not ManU, but are still much better than Ionikos or Ofi... I will cheer a win vs Rangers because this year any win will come very hard. Unless some of the new players like Maric or Zatautas start playing great we will be lucky to go to the Uefa... Now there is no inspiration from anyone, we need great performances to have a chance Personally I can't remember Pao playing so poorly in a long time... Winning the Protathlima and playing crappy football, is worse than getting second and playing well in Europe. We could still beat the cafenia in Greece and gather points, but that does not make us a good team, nor 2003-04 a successful season. Only in Europe a team shows it's real quality I think Vardinokavlis wants only the protathlima this year and that shows by the transfers and the coach he got us Their idea is to have many mediocre players that are barely good enough to beat the Greek teams, most of which are very bad.( look at the results in the Uefa) That is why they did not sign a single great player this year. In Greece it is better to have many options of average players. The above does not work in European games where a great leader and good supporting cast is needed to elevate the team a step above their level vs Greek competition... It is like a marathon vs a sprint Protathlima is a marathon where we need to play consistently "average" and be fresh by having a lot of choices. As long as we are not tired or injured a win will come against such poor opponents! Europe is a sprint where we need to play exceptionally well but only a few times In Europe 3-4 good results will help your team go far, you only need to win the "key" games. Those games will not be won by this year's Panathinaikos at least at the level that Pao is performing so far... That really worries me... We must protect our glorious history in Europe Who cares what happens in Greece, nobody is watching anyway!!! Kalh mas tyxh, giati tha thn xreiastoume ELLAS... EUROPH... PANATHINAIKOS... PEACE
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