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I thought Sokratis and Manolas declined invites to the ethniki. He said as much in last interview. Siovas should have been called up.

Ok, so if you sack JVS, who do you hire? Who can you hire? That has to be part of the fire-the-coach equation…

You are too harsh. Pavlidis is not s@#t, and he is skillful. He is 22 and will have plenty of time to make a mark with NT. It's good to have more than one option at the Striker position. JVS has made progress with the NT that was in a shambles when he took over. However, lose or draw with Kosovo then it may be his last. He has not been helped by injuries and suspensions to key players in this campaign and that may ultimately work in his favor. The biggest compliment came from the Spain coach, who said "η Ελλάδα είναι μια καλοδουλεμένη ομάδα από τον προπονητή της και αυτό φάνηκε στο δεύτερο μέρος που μας δημιούργησε προβλήματα".

Here’s my issue with replacing JVS, number one we can’t keep switching coaches every year and expect to build chemistry within the team as each coach will have a different philosophy and be looking for different type of players that fit the style of play he wants to play. What if we replace JVS with another coach that takes us back to the old style of Greek football just sitting back and playing boring ass football?? Then what? Those days are done we don’t have those type of players to just sit back and defend for 90 minutes without conceding a goal it won’t happen. JVS has made a lot of mistakes and I can’t stand his in game decision making regarding subs, I also can’t stand how we put certain players in certain positions and some of the call ups he makes, BUT he has had this team for the most part with the exception of some very boring and head scratching games playing some very exciting football it looks like we have speed and if he can just get it through his head that certain players Should not be starting I think he can build something good. I personally think knowing the EPO’s budget will never get a high end talent here in regards to a coach I think we give him one more shot for the nations league. This division that we were in was a difficult division you probably had one of the better second seeded teams and we beat them once and could’ve easily beat them the second game if it wasn’t for some unlucky bounces. Where JVS needs to improve is playing against the weaker teams and finding a way to get a result but as we saw today it’s not that easy as Georgia beat Sweden in a huge game for Sweden. I think if Fortounis comes back and having Tzolis and Douvikas and Masouras alternating we should be able to build a decent team. This is my thinking right now I’m not 100% saying I want JVS to stay but I think the team has definitely improved under him and has found some chemistry and have finally found a little bit of an identity they want to play with. Remember guys Ranieri couldn’t beat the Faroe Islands and Skibbe couldn’t beat Estonia in Athens in a huge game. We just need to be careful if we replace him we may go backwards as I think this team hopefully will continue to improve under him. Just my thoughts right now

How can anyone with functioning eye balls watch that half and this pavlidis is NT quality. That guy wouldn’t start for any of the big 4 Greek clubs. He’s slow, can’t hold up the ball and misses sitters

Listened to JVS interview and a few times he kept bringing up the point that the team is young and has a bright future with Vlacho, Tzolis, and Douvikas. That is all well and good but you need to have some experienced players in the mix too like a Manolas & Sokratis to help guide these youngsters and help them in these qualification campaigns were you are going to face top level countries with star players like Spain & Sweden can throw out. Manolas & Sokratis would have been useful in this case as these guys have been playing at top clubs in their careers and in CL football. Which players that JVS fielded yesterday can say the same thing?

J1078 I hear you on constantly changing coaches that it doesn’t help us. JVS has had 2 years now he started of well and I liked how he had the team playing in the Euro qualifiers even the way we played in a loss at Italy the eventual European champions. Since then in the NL and Wcup qualifying there have been to many puzzling moves and lack lustre performances aside from what Alphonse stated with the couple half’s Greece outplayed Sweden. I was listening to Gate 7 podcast (listen if you get a chance too) & Kostas from Greece said JVS is a good coach to have if you want to have if you are a club looking to avoid relegation just picking up enough results vs crappy teams to keep a float. Another good point he brought up was when JVS took over the Ethniki he had a plethora of CBs too choose from and now we are so thin in that department due to him banning our 3 best CBs for what? This ultimately cost us qualification in the draws vs Georgia & especially Kosovo as well in Sweden in conceding stupid goals. Tzavellas stepped up admirably this whole campaign I must say but had we had those missing guys our point total would be higher and I think we keep more than 1 clean sheet. I think if Donis is available EPO should hire him as he can work with the players currently in the squad and others who JVS has abandoned. Bottom line is I don’t trust JVS for Euro qualification I could see him continuing with his stubborn ways, crazy player selections etc..and we can’t miss yet another tournament. It’s been way too long a wait.. Anyways that’s my opinion..

Ive always asked, can he learn from his mistakes, and the answer is he can't and that's what it comes down to

My thoughts to that - My thoughts on this, One of the reasons I was for JVS initially was the style of play he HAD us playing but file, I really feel he has fallen back from this advancement, look at nearly all our games this campaign, its been shambles... The only time we have played ball was in the last 30 mins vs Sweden in Athens and the first half in Sweden, we have shown so little outside of that and it got us nowhere but for the lucky win over Georgia. For the most part we have almost expected the win to happen without really playing any nice football, the exciting football was played was when he came in and we played wingers like Limnios and had Fortounis in the middle but now he is set on Bakasetas who slows that dynamic down too. We got some good talent but he is making a meal of that too, taking off Masouras today was a bad move, starting Pavlidis who has been pretty poor of late with his play... I am just seen constant mistakes and poor management, I was defending him for some time too but all I am seen is mix and matching players, and poor tactics with Tsimikas,Giannoulis, Alexandropoulos, Bouchalakis, Baka, Pav, Androutsos etc... Today for me was the icing on the cake, ive had enough of the mistakes.

I've been locked out of my account for over a year too! Just wondering what happens if Spain lose to Sweden in their last game and finish second, as they already have a playoff WC spot from the Nation's League? Do we get a playoff spot too?

Penalty for me was soft and masouras was barely offside, but we had one shot on net so pretty sad.

Greece didn’t play poorly today. Unlucky on the penalty. I think we’re clearly headed back in the right direction…

I would love to see Alexandropoulos in this game.

Greece should be up 1-0 and not down 1-0. Masouras goal should have stand, it was a tight one, but I firmly believe he is onside, otherwise blow the whistle dead if the refs suspect he was offside. What a BS penalty that was! The Spanish player went down like as if he was shot! Giannoulis was trying to clear the ball and it barely gazed the player.

I could not see anything in that penalty? Spain are dominating but FIFA want to make sure Spain don’t miss a World Cup.

We need to chase the game, I would be hooking Giannoulis and subbing on Tzolis. Push Tsimikas to left back and go to a 4-3-3 with Mantalos playing as a pure attacking mid, Tzolis/Masouras out wide and Pavlidis down the middle. Beyond that Bouchalakis isn't built for a game like this too much pace and pressure from Spain for him to be effective. Alexandropoulos is probably the only option but it's basically impossible that JVS does that. Demoralizing that penalty, really Spain created 1.5 good chances and neither was the penalty.