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Just now, Ellada2004 said:

Bosnian reporter asks if we deserved the tie.. Coach ANGE replies we deserved the WIN! HAHA! love it!

vre ton angelo me tsabouka

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The attitude of some of these Bosnians is so laughable!

Were are the new Bosnian posters on this forum??

 

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4 minutes ago, Ellada2004 said:

The attitude of some of these Bosnians is so laughable!

Were are the new Bosnian posters on this forum??

 

eh to be fair those guys were very nice and civil. they're probably the more enlightened ones to find this forum. I'd rather it just be greek soccer fans though so we can be a bit more cheeky.

PS what happened to Vranjes? some guy on youtube said he was kicked out of the Bosnian team for sticking up for AEK fans? he's a great cb

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4 minutes ago, Ellada2004 said:

The attitude of some of these Bosnians is so laughable!

Were are the new Bosnian posters on this forum??

 

Here. I've been here for a while though.

I don't know why you have this impression in every post, no one thinks we are a big team, we are a mediocre team who fights for 2nd and 3rd place in qualification groups. No one thinks we're a superpower. Today, we played a horrible game and closed down after leading 2-0 and got what was to be expected. In the end, lucky to keep it at 2-2 and not concede a 3rd goal. That's football.

Anyway, until October 15th, peace out

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Ya maybe but I think if they had won they would have been back here quickly after the match.

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Eh cut the nom-Greeks here some slack. I appreciate their input on their squad. That being said, Greece and Bosnia have developed a nice little rivalry over the past few years!

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1 minute ago, kosaca said:

Here. I've been here for a while though.

I don't know why you have this impression in every post, no one thinks we are a big team, we are a mediocre team who fights for 2nd and 3rd place in qualification groups. No one thinks we're a superpower. Today, we played a horrible game and closed down after leading 2-0 and got what was to be expected. In the end, lucky to keep it at 2-2 and not concede a 3rd goal. That's football.

No worries.. You played a very good first 25 minutes and we were out of sorts uncharacteristically at the back.. Missing Manolas had a lot to do with that. Anyways will see you in Greece in a few months.

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Bosnia destroyed us first 20 minutes I thought we were gunna lose 5-0 with that let up. Weird thing we often are having brain farts and slow to get into the game but then we just started dominating.

with manolas back and a few key others it will be all Greece in Hellas I believe but can't get too cocky either but I'm optimistic what can I say

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3 minutes ago, georgelaz said:

yeah so I found an article about it. Vranjes is more pro Serbia/Russia as he's orthodox according to this article which has friction from bosniak fans

 

http://www.sarajevotimes.com/ognjen-vranjes-disqualified-from-bih-football-team/

I remember him saying how much he loved it at AEK and still loves the club and fans.

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3 minutes ago, georgelaz said:

Bosnia destroyed us first 20 minutes I thought we were gunna lose 5-0 with that let up. Weird thing we often are having brain farts and slow to get into the game but then we just started dominating.

with manolas back and a few key others it will be all Greece in Hellas I believe but can't get too cocky either but I'm optimistic what can I say

Vlachodimos should have been better, there goalie made a couple big saves. We were so disorganized at the back in the first 20 minutes making silly mistakes and giving possession away so cheaply. The game started to turn after 35th minute and on and Fortounis should have finished that chance he shot over the bar. Bosnia only had one chance in the 2nd half and they sat back and tried to defend which is there weakness..Anyways Greece could have won but we also could have lost big as well with that awful start to the match. A draw is huge for us...

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12 minutes ago, georgelaz said:

Bosnia destroyed us first 20 minutes I thought we were gunna lose 5-0 with that let up. Weird thing we often are having brain farts and slow to get into the game but then we just started dominating.

with manolas back and a few key others it will be all Greece in Hellas I believe but can't get too cocky either but I'm optimistic what can I say

20 first min are always the hardest in a heated environment such as sarajevo

 

our team is very young and lacks that kind of maturity to be able to keep calm during the storm

 

but we fought back and got a great result, under the circumstances

 

there are things to work on here .... good signs

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4 minutes ago, tantra129 said:

20 first min are always the hardest in a heated environment such as sarajevo

 

our team is very young and lacks that kind of maturity to be able to keep calm during the storm

 

but we fought back and got a great result, under the circumstances

 

there are things to work on here .... good signs

bad communication from vlacho. he wanted a 3 man wall and only zeca was there. 

he's our best keeper for sure but he still needs to build chem with everyone (zeca and him were teamates at pao so that's why he understood i'd imagine)

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3 minutes ago, tantra129 said:

keeper calls the wall ... if the younglings don't listen .... how can you blame him?

you think it was done purposely or they just couldn't hear him cause he wasn't loud enough because the stadium was super loud

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i think they were not focused and therefore could not execute ... after 20 min things started to change

 

the ball started moving

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Overall, I really liked the team these two games.  Masouras/Siovas/Donis really impressed, something to build on going forward.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a three man back line.   We can finally have speed to counter with Masouras/Donis and hopefully Lambrou.  Vlaho is our keeper for the next 10 years, he will only get better. We took more shots on goal these past two games than we did the entire campaign the last time out.  We looked more energetic and hustled, while our finishing is lacking, it will improve.  

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3rd toughest match for us and we looked like we should've won (2 italy matches being the hardest imo) so looks like we have a really good shot to get 2nd possibly 1st

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1 hour ago, La Mendel said:

And Kolovos was great. I must admit I never rated him I thought that he was better than Bakasetas but that was all.

For the very little I have seen him, he has more ball control than bakasetas and can play as a second striker in the box something that mantalos and pelkas cannot do. Also can create his own shot, something that koulourus cannot do.

Give credit to anastasiadis; instead of playing players out of position (3 CM), he plays the best of them, Fotounis, and finds players player to play when needed.

Both masouras and Kolovos are such players; good enough to make positive plays.

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The result is big.  Fair to say we should be happy with a score draw.

As for the goals we conceded, the players committed sins today.  Those goals should NEVER go in at that level.

1) The first goal, why isn't there one man around the "D" ?  Seriously, my junior coaches taught us these basics when I was a kid.  If you allow the opposition to just shoot like that, you deserve to concede.  I've read comments the goal was lucky but I don't agree.  We allowed the corner taker to see the option, he played it, and the BH player had a shot.  After that, anything can happen, and behold it did.  Worse than a school boy error on our part.  If you simply position a man to guard the "D" this goal doesn't happen.

2) The free kick from Pjanic.  Same again.  School boy defending.  Sure, he's not that good.  I mean, he only plays for Juventus and is being courted by Real Madrid.  Here mate, we don't need to setup a wall because you're just a no name player that couldn't score to save your life.  And for the people that said it's Vlachodimos mistake, that is ridiculous.  That shot would not be saved by any keeper in the world.  It was perfect.  But if you setup a wall, it's 95% no goal.

So we concede two goals from defending that is Kastoria FC level.  Unacceptable.

Moving forward hopefully we tighten up because we will definitely not qualify conceding stupid goals like this.

The plus (and this is a BIG plus) is that the team didn't fold and showed heart.  That is all on Ange.  His team selection I don't understand but his motivational skills have always been good.  Overall, considering the first 20 minutes and at half-time we 2-0 down this is a great result.

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14 minutes ago, Bananas said:

The result is big.  Fair to say we should be happy with a score draw.

As for the goals we conceded, the players committed sins today.  Those goals should NEVER go in at that level.

1) The first goal, why isn't there one man around the "D" ?  Seriously, my junior coaches taught us these basics when I was a kid.  If you allow the opposition to just shoot like that, you deserve to concede.  I've read comments the goal was lucky but I don't agree.  We allowed the corner taker to see the option, he played it, and the BH player had a shot.  After that, anything can happen, and behold it did.  Worse than a school boy error on our part.  If you simply position a man to guard the "D" this goal doesn't happen.

2) The free kick from Pjanic.  Same again.  School boy defending.  Sure, he's not that good.  I mean, he only plays for Juventus and is being courted by Real Madrid.  Here mate, we don't need to setup a wall because you're just a no name player that couldn't score to save your life.  And for the people that said it's Vlachodimos mistake, that is ridiculous.  That shot would not be saved by any keeper in the world.  It was perfect.  But if you setup a wall, it's 95% no goal.

So we concede two goals from defending that is Kastoria FC level.  Unacceptable.

Moving forward hopefully we tighten up because we will definitely not qualify conceding stupid goals like this.

The plus (and this is a BIG plus) is that the team didn't fold and showed heart.  That is all on Ange.  His team selection I don't understand but his motivational skills have always been good.  Overall, considering the first 20 minutes and at half-time we 2-0 down this is a great result.

Ange summoned the spirit of the holy trinity as half time, sigoura.

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22 minutes ago, Bananas said:

The result is big.  Fair to say we should be happy with a score draw.

As for the goals we conceded, the players committed sins today.  Those goals should NEVER go in at that level.

1) The first goal, why isn't there one man around the "D" ?  Seriously, my junior coaches taught us these basics when I was a kid.  If you allow the opposition to just shoot like that, you deserve to concede.  I've read comments the goal was lucky but I don't agree.  We allowed the corner taker to see the option, he played it, and the BH player had a shot.  After that, anything can happen, and behold it did.  Worse than a school boy error on our part.  If you simply position a man to guard the "D" this goal doesn't happen.

2) The free kick from Pjanic.  Same again.  School boy defending.  Sure, he's not that good.  I mean, he only plays for Juventus and is being courted by Real Madrid.  Here mate, we don't need to setup a wall because you're just a no name player that couldn't score to save your life.  And for the people that said it's Vlachodimos mistake, that is ridiculous.  That shot would not be saved by any keeper in the world.  It was perfect.  But if you setup a wall, it's 95% no goal.

So we concede two goals from defending that is Kastoria FC level.  Unacceptable.

Moving forward hopefully we tighten up because we will definitely not qualify conceding stupid goals like this.

The plus (and this is a BIG plus) is that the team didn't fold and showed heart.  That is all on Ange.  His team selection I don't understand but his motivational skills have always been good.  Overall, considering the first 20 minutes and at half-time we 2-0 down this is a great result.

Both stupid goals to concede the first we were not ready to defend and then after the initial shot we couldn't clear the ball. The second was very strange I dont know when I last saw something like that play, no wall on a free kick from such a dangerous position?  Like you said you cant let a player like Pjanic have a free look at the goal like that.

Before the game started I said a draw would be very good for Greece away in Bosnia and the way they got it was impressive. Now Greece go home and just have find a way to get wins vs Italy which will be tougher than today and Armenia who we shouldn't take lightly.

 

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I’m hoping Bosnia drop points in finland without Pjanic... That being said you can’t count out Finland either.. Guys beside the disastrous nervous start this is the first time I seen this team with speed and create chances and are finding away to get shots on target something we never were able to do.. I think guys like Masouras, Donis Koutris and now a reborn Samaris in the mid can help us be more creative and use there speed.. Hopefully when we play Italy we don’t come out nervous and scared, yes we need to be solid defensively but we can’t be afraid to attack.. Donis is better on the wing he produces very weak headers... 

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