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17 minutes ago, J1078 said:

The coach needs to go ASAP and if with a new coach the results and drama continue then time to clean house get rid of everyone and start playing younger guys.. At the end of the day I would rather lose and get embarrassed with younger guys that may have some potential then watching these guys lose every time they play..

EPO just confirmed they will play at Oaka for the entire qualifier.. wow how embarrassing we don’t even have a home field.. lol Oaka is like we are playing on the road..

Exactly! Let an actual coach come in and inject proper tactics and strategy, and if it doesn't work, then in comes Patrick Swayze from road house to clean house lol

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Seriously, how can Pankritiko have so many issues? They have been talking about this for so long and can’t even get this right :bangin:

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8 hours ago, ausgreek said:

It reflects very badly on people of Greek nationality that on the sporting landscape at least, that they can play like cowards especially against Italy. Its not what our ancestory was founded on. Should replace the coach and blacklist 6-8 players, including the main Centre Backs that have been making alot of noise lately, along with the Right Back and Centre Forward that didn't get picked. Time to usher in a new dawn, with initial pain during this World Cup cycle. 

I honestly don’t know who we should get rid of. To me the first person should be Samaris. Reason being he has been given too many chances and isn’t trustworthy. It’s been 5 years and we’ve only won 14 games. He can be on the bench for now. 

I like Masouras , I think he has something to offer. His determination and work rate is great and is needed in this team. We shouldn’t be criticising him as he still has room for improvement.

Stafylidis is not the best defender. But he can be reliable outside the box and set pieces. Shouldn’t really be our starter. I don’t fully trust him yet. Koutris has lots of speed and can whip them in well. He needs time but I believe he will be useful for us in the long term. Lykogiannis was great when given chances I don’t know why he hasn’t been given another.

I would like for Torosidis to step down but there is no one who can fill that RB spot. No one is good enough so Torosidis has to  stay. 

Mantalos and Pelkas can only excel in one role. As Fortounis is our best attacking player. The areas of concern for me are at RB, ST and CM. 

Id like to we add we haven’t got quality wingers. As this I believe is the reason why we are so bad in attack. I don’t know why Lamprou and Limnios haven’t been tried yet as they are true wingers. They might be young and raw but your better off trying someone who actually plays that role. 

To conclude Samaris should not start anymore. Bakasetas should be out. No questions there. I would give Galanopoulos and either Lamprou/Chatzigiovannis a chance to see if they are upgrades in positions we need improving in. 

This team should be tried.

Vlachodimos

Retsos/Torosidis Manolas Sokratis Koutris

Galanopoulos Kourbelis 

Chatzigiovannis Fortounis Masouras

Donis

This team has good balance and actual wingers. Retsos can fill in at RB of need be. I’d like to see how Donis would do with actual wingers supporting him. Koutris attacking play is needed. Zeca can come off the bench. Kourbelis and Galanopoulos can do the heavy lifting as I believe they could work well together. Both seem not afraid to make runs forward too. 

 

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Great call on Samaris, Deano. I remember when I played team sport, in my day it was in another code, although, soccer/football has become my favourite sport in the last 8-10 years. I would look around before we play a match, and I would subtly indentify a team mate who I feel glad is in my team along side me and I would gain confidence from that.

Who would Greek players basically turn around and say I am glad he is alongside me today in this match cause he gives 100% so I will play better as well? If this man can be indentified, He should be the DM in the team cause He can be a match winner or game changer. This is your DM player. Socceroos, for their lack or World Class talent, would indentify their recently retired captain Jedinak as this guy. He intimidated classier opposition players. A screener defending your CB's and goalie, someone that can make a difference. Who is that for the Galanolefki? This is Not Samaris, not a game changer, as Tzioli$ was not either..what a passenger. Could it be Siopis or Galanopoulos or a recycled Taxi with an extended go at it?

The young guys like Masouras would rise to the occasion and improve plenty. I saw some highlights of Lazaros Lamprou to see what the hype is all about, he is outstanding, a natural goalscorer. If your good enough, your old enough. Like your inclusion af Galanopoulos too. I know who the right person is for RB, the player identified that gives 100% in this position. Then  just back him, who are we willing to see develope in this position?

What concerns me also, is that Fortounis plays wholeheartedly with the captain's armband. If Toro comes back, I would keep Fortounis as captain cause its more important your AM is firing over your RB to be firing. It would be great if they are all firing, true. So, if Toro is kept out, or play but not as the captain will Sok and Manolas cope with this and play at their best? We might have to endure some more pain, even with a new coach. No more excuses for these experienced players, they got their way with another coach coming in.

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On 6/18/2019 at 7:09 AM, gsots said:

But Otto also wouldn't look for players outside the big 4 clubs on Greece, and that hurt us too. 

Maybe this could help now. Stick to Olympiacos/PAOK/AEK/Atromitos players. I dont think others could contribute much. Even some of these are not of much use (think of Bakasetas only, he was an AEK player and has always been hopeless).

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That would exclude the presence of Kourbelis, Kolovetsios, Bouzoukis, Kyriakidis, Fetfatzidis, Siopis, Maniatis and a bunch of players but the majority of them like Kourbelis, Kolovetsios, Dioudis are wholly dispensable. Maniatis is a good defensive midfielder, but perhaps we can do without him.

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1 hour ago, La Mendel said:

That would exclude the presence of Kourbelis, Kolovetsios, Bouzoukis, Kyriakidis, Fetfatzidis, Siopis, Maniatis and a bunch of players but the majority of them like Kourbelis, Kolovetsios, Dioudis are wholly dispensable. Maniatis is a good defensive midfielder, but perhaps we can do without him.

I wouldn’t put Fetfatzidis and Bouzoukis in the same sentence as those names. They are in a different mould and are way better than the overly favoured Bakasetas...

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15 years ago Greece beat the Czech Republic! Greek flags were waving all over Toronto and Canada!! ELLAS ELLAS ELLAS! 

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The current when is yet to be fired, EPO either taking their time trying to find a manager that fits their cheap budget or are going to stick Angelo 

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There are rumors that Biagio (the u21 Italian coach) is being looked at.  He just resigned from the u21.

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5 hours ago, Brklyngrk said:

There are rumors that Biagio (the u21 Italian coach) is being looked at.  He just resigned from the u21.

Interesting wouldn't mind him.. 

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Not sure what to think - the Italians were upset at him bc their u21 is stacked, they expected more..

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My colleague Lucia says we need an Italian to sort out our mess..I agreed seeing that Italy is formerly Greek, he would be like signing a local again. Otherwse we can make a play for Trump/Pence in future.

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Can we still qualify for 2020?  Is all hope lost now of saving this campaign?  It looks grim.  

Very disappointing..

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1 hour ago, HellasLEAF said:

Can we still qualify for 2020?  Is all hope lost now of saving this campaign?  It looks grim.  

Very disappointing..

I really like to think we have a chance but it doesn’t look like we do. Until we find a real coach and until our players actually really care we wont get anywhere. Player selections need to be a adjusted to. For example Bakasetas needs to be out. 

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If we win the game against Finland we will be in a pretty good place for qualification. No need to be so pessimistic

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I’m not being pessimistic I’m just saying the truth. We couldn’t beat Armenia and Finland is better. We should be able to beat Finland but anything can happen with our team.

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Qualifications will be very difficult. We have a do or die game next Thursday.  The fact that our players folded and potentially threw the game against Armenia to get the coach fired probably cost us any chance we had. If we somehow pull a win then we should be right back in the mix of things.. To be honest no one knows what to expect with this team as they are in a mess IMO.. We are a week away and no real introduction or press conference has happened yet.. Has the coach even had enough time to properly scout the players and reach out to the guys... I mean what's going to happen 3 days before the game against Finland they are all going to get together and all of a sudden put together a new style of play and we think it's going to work??  I hate to say this but I think this may be a disaster for the NT as any coach that comes in needs more time then we have for this qualification..

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On 7/3/2019 at 2:59 PM, ausgreek said:

My colleague Lucia says we need an Italian to sort out our mess.

Didn't we had Claudio Ranieri after World Cup 2014? How did that work out? 

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On 8/27/2019 at 12:33 AM, Molon Lave said:

Didn't we had Claudio Ranieri after World Cup 2014? How did that work out? 

I agree, Lucia doesn't know her stuff...soot Mario!

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armenia is currently beating Italy 1-0 in the 25th minute lol. Were the only team this qualifiers thats playing like s%$#!

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HT Armenia 1 Italy 1 

Referee gave a harsh 2nd yellow to Karpatian so Armenia are down to 10 men. 

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