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SL–R8: PAOK - Panathinaikos (29-Oct-18, 21:30 EET)

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MATCHUP:            P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki – Panathinaikos Athens
COMPETITION:    Superleague – Round 8
DATE:                     29-Oct-2018
TIME:                      21:30 GR  (19:30 GMT, 14:30 CDT, 06:30 AEDT next day)
CITY/STADIUM:   Thessaloniki - Toumba Stadium (Capacity: 28,703)
REFEREES:            Jens Maae - Heine Sorensen, Jesper Dahl (Denmark)
TELEVISION:        Novasport1 (Greece, Cyprus, Albania), Sport Plus, PAOK TV (Worldwide except Greece, Cyprus, Albania)

PAOK vs Panathinaikos history:

SUPERLEAGUE

2017-2018:  4:0 (Pelkas 2, Koulouris -p), Prijovic) - Attendance:  26,140
2016-2017:  2:3 (Biseswar, Henrique) - Attendance:  12,362   (PLAY OFFS)
2016-2017:  3:0 (Henrique, Leovac, Shakhov) - Attendance:  17,209
2015-2016:  1:1 (Rodrigues) - Attendance:  20,156  (PLAY OFFS)
2015-2016:  3:1 (Berbatov-p, Rodrigues, Vitor) - Attendance:  15,374
2014-2015:  0:1 - Attendance:  9,473 (PLAY OFFS)
2014-2015:  1:2 (Pereyra) - Attendance:  24,905
2013-2014:  1:0 (Vukic) - Attendance:  NO FANS  (PLAY OFFS)
2013-2014:  2:1 (Stoch-p, Athanasiadis) - Attendance:  24,633
2012-2013:  2:0 (Camara, Vukic) - Attendance:  19,856
2011-2012:  1:0 (Salpiggidis) - Attendance:  11,484 (PLAYOFFS)
2011-2012:  1:3 (Vierinha) - Attendance:  19,002
2010-2011:  2:1(Athanasiadis, El Zhar) - Attendance:  19,391  (PLAYOFFS)
2010-2011:  0:1 - Attendance:  22,009
2009-2010:  2:1 (Garcia, Muslimovic) - Attendance:  23,104
2008-2009:  0:1 - Attendance:  27,703  (PLAYOFFS)
2008-2009:  0:0 - Attendance:  25,795
2007-2008:  0:1 - Attendance:  19,000
2006-2007:  2:1 (Georgiadis, Balafas) - Attendance:  8,795
2005-2006:  0:1 - Attendance: no fans

ALPHA ETHNIKI (Professional)

2004-2005:  1:1 (Salpiggidis) - Attendance:  17,845
2003-2004:  1:2 (Hagan) - Attendance:  17,805
2002-2003:  4:1 (Georgiadis 2, Spasic, Kafes) - Attendance: 26,800
2001-2002:  2:2 (Spasic, Froussos) - Attendance: 22,000
2000-2001:  2:2 (Nalitzis, Karadimos) - Attendance:  12,978
1999-2000:  1:3 (Bratic) - Attendance:  20,888
1998-1999:  2:0 (Katsabis, Frantzeskos) - Attendance:  12,996
1997-1998:  2:1 (Nagbe, Comingez) - Attendance:  16,877
1996-1997:  1:0 (Frantzeskos) - Attendance:  13,110
1995-1996:  0:1 - Attendance:  13,832
1994-1995:  2:0 (Lagonidis, Alexiou) - Attendance:  21,114
1993-1994:  3:1 (Luhovy 2, Havos) - Attendance:  6,728
1992-1993:  1:1 (Alexiou) - Attendance:  8,054
1991-1992:  1:0 (Chionas) - Attendance:  21,838
1990-1991:  1:1 (Hasan I.) - Attendance:  15,303
1989-1990:  2:1 (Magdi, Palaskas) - Attendance:  25,100
1988-1989:  1:0 (Skartados-p) - Attendance:  25,291
1987-1988:  4:1 (Skartados 2, Borbokis, Alexandridis, ) - Attendance: 36,305
1986-1987:  2:3 (Skartados, Vasilakos) - Attendance:  22,166
1985-1986:  0:1  - Attendance:  21,448
1984-1985:  1:1 (Skartados) - Attendance:  35,914
1983-1984:  1:0 (own goal) - Attendance:  34,256
1982-1983:  2:0 (Damanakis, Trinhold) - Attendance:  19,164
1981-1982:  2:0 (Iosifidis, Kostikos) - Attendance:  20,257
1980-1981:  4:2 (Koudas 2, Vasilakos, Alexandris) - Attendance:  18,131
1979-1980:  0:2 - Attendance:  29,992

(The famous “Litsas” game with very pro-Panathinaikos officiating. At the end of the game Litsas awards PAOK a penalty kick, but Orfanos misses on purpose in protest.)

ALPHA ETHNIKI (Amateur/Semi-Professional)

1978-1979:  3:0 (Kermanidis 2, Orfanos) - Attendance: ?
1977-1978:  3:1 (?) - Attendance: ?
1976-1977:  0:0 - Attendance:  45,000
1975-1976:  3:1 (Guerino 2, Sarafis) - Attendance: ?
1974-1975:  2:0 (Apostolidis, Sarafis) - Attendance: ?
1973-1974:  1:1 (Aslanidis) - Attendance:  42,318
1972-1973:  1:0 (Koudas) - Attendance:  39,500
1971-1972:  1:0 (Apostolidis) - Attendance:  40,051
1970-1971:  3:2 (Stavridis 2, Aslanidis) - Attendance: ?
1969-1970:  0:1 - Attendance:  33,136
1968-1969:  1:2 (?) - Attendance:  26,572
1967-1968:  2:1 (?) - Attendance: ?
1966-1967:  0:0 - Attendance: ?
1965-1966:  1:3 (Theofanidis) - Attendance:  21,020
1964-1965:  0:0 - Attendance: ?
1963-1964:  0:1 - Attendance: ?
1962-1963:  1:1 (?) - Attendance:  20,131
1961-1962:  2:1 (Mouratidis, Leandros) - Attendance: ?
1960-1961:  0:1 - Attendance: 12,000
1959-1960:  0:2 - Attendance: 8,000

Panhellenic Championship

1958-1959:  1:0 (Raptopoulos)- Attendance: 10,000
1957-1958:  2:2 (Kiourtzis, Kouiroukidis)- Attendance: ?
1956-1957:  0:2 - Attendance: ?
1955-1956:  1:0 (?)- Attendance: ?
1954-1955:  0:2 - Attendance: ?
1953-1954:  1:1 (?)- Attendance: ?
1936-1937:  2:0 - Attendance:  (PAOK won on forfeit)
1935-1936:  0:1 - Attendance: ?
1931-1932:  3:1 (Kavourmatzis, Papaiordanidis, Willy)- Attendance: ?
1930-1931:  1:3 (Andreadis)- Attendance: ?

GAMES:  76    WINS:  37    TIES:  15    LOSSES:  24

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We're only like a quarter of the way there. At a minimum, we need to win every home game, full stop.

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Νομοτελειακά κάποτε θα έρθει και η γκέλα. Ελπίζω να μην είναι σε αυτό το ματς.

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Why is this match a derby being played on Monday?   Is it to give PAOK a extra day rest,  because of Europe?

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45 minutes ago, PAOTHEGREAT said:

Why is this match a derby being played on Monday?   Is it to give PAOK a extra day rest,  because of Europe?

Because the police asked for it due to October 28 celebrations in Thessaloniki. Worked quite well for PAOK concerning rest after European game though.

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1 hour ago, Blackhawk said:

Because the police asked for it due to October 28 celebrations in Thessaloniki. Worked quite well for PAOK concerning rest after European game though.

I see.   A shame IMO.   Big games should be played on Sunday....and I feel the reasoning is very backwards.   Anyway will miss the game.

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Παίζουμε ίσως κόντρα στην πιο απρόβλεπτη ομάδα του πρωταθλήματος. Κανείς δεν περίμενε τέτοια πορεία πρωταθλητισμού από τον Παναθηναϊκό. ΠΑΟΚΑΡΑ τρέλανέ μας!!!! Το ματσάκι θα είναι δεύτερα οπότε η επαρχεία θα λείπει από το γήπεδο. Λογικά δεν θα έχουμε σολντ άουτ.

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20 hours ago, PAOTHEGREAT said:

Why is this match a derby being played on Monday?   Is it to give PAOK a extra day rest,  because of Europe?

Yes it’s about the rest.  Don’t buy that crap about October 28th.  It’s not an important date really.

Don’t you know we have the cops on the payroll ?  That’s in addition to Tsipras and EPO.  You see, that’s why we *only* got -3 and half a year without fans.  Before we had everyone on the payroll, it would’ve been demotion to Zambian League and 25 years with no fans.

Don’t you know even Alafouzos and your team is on our payroll ?  Even if you win, it’s only because we let you and it’s all part of the bigger plan.  I guarantee if you win it’s because Savvidis has made illegal gambling bets to collect big time.  Don’t worry Alafouzos gets his cut too so he can pay the players.

Don’t you know even the Illuminati and Donald Trump are on our payroll ?  It’s all been pre programmed man.  You’re in the matrix.

One day rest ... yeah man, we rule the world.  Even the Rothschilds bow before our feet.  The protocols of Zion was written by Savvidis son.  You’re so blind man.

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^^Not about that.   IMO big games like this should be on primetime.   This match will not maximize its potential....the objective of the derby is to draw maximum viewers.   

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This derby we will have a ref from Denmark: Jens Maae.

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PANATHINAIKO. Even the ... police are afraid of spoiling her ... parade. It does not matter kids. Monday you want?Monday. And this Monday and the Clean Monday and Easter Monday and whenever you want. Even the Second Coming ... 

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All of greece will be watching! sunday or monday no matter the day. 

Important Games for us to really stamp our authority on this league and footballing nation! 

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4 hours ago, PAOKSYD said:

All of greece will be watching! sunday or monday no matter the day. 

Important Games for us to really stamp our authority on this league and footballing nation! 

Authority?   I don't think PAOK will ever have authority in football.   Might win a championship here and there which is good.   The Olympiakos and PAO days of winning 5 championships in a decade, and playing in the CL 8 out ten years are long gone.   Good compensation in the league is what's needed,  and I think that's what we're witnessing.    

Let's talk about the game now.   PAOK is decent side,   has holes and weaknesses but has learned how to win playing ugly. PAO is a young team playing on adrenaline,  so maybe the weakness they have are covered up playing with heat.   Very intriguing game,   and perhaps some of PAOs holes in the lineup will start surfacing.    Should be a good tilt.

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@vjc we don’t need to play good.  We’re paying the referees.  Sou eipa ala den akous.

For 50 years Olympiacos bribed refs, for 35 years PAO did it and for 15 years AEK did it.  Can’t we have 1 turn at doing the same ?

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VJC?    I don't know why you always respond sarcastically in every thread.   Anyway getting back to your conspiracy post....PAO proved they were legitimate by defeating world  class sides in the CL,  and progressing deep into the playoff rounds.    I really don't want to chat about conspiracies,   and seems to be the  norm amongst Greeks,  but not me.   What's next,   you're going to tell us 9/11 was set up by the CIA?  Come on man.  Lol

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I do so in the hope you will stop posting in our forums but alas I fear my efforts are in vain.  Feel free though to slag me off elsewhere.

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1 hour ago, Bananas said:

I do so in the hope you will stop posting in our forums but alas I fear my efforts are in vain.  Feel free though to slag me off elsewhere.

Sorry man....you got the wrong guy here.   Just posting in a public forum of interest,  that's all.    Didn't know that you view this forum as your own personal stomping ground.

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6 hours ago, PAOTHEGREAT said:

Authority?   I don't think PAOK will ever have authority in football.   Might win a championship here and there which is good.   The Olympiakos and PAO days of winning 5 championships in a decade, and playing in the CL 8 out ten years are long gone.   Good compensation in the league is what's needed,  and I think that's what we're witnessing.    

Let's talk about the game now.   PAOK is decent side,   has holes and weaknesses but has learned how to win playing ugly. PAO is a young team playing on adrenaline,  so maybe the weakness they have are covered up playing with heat.   Very intriguing game,   and perhaps some of PAOs holes in the lineup will start surfacing.    Should be a good tilt.

Savvidis  just installed Angelos as national coach! Think again! 

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26 minutes ago, PAOKSYD said:

Savvidis  just installed Angelos as national coach! Think again! 

In order for you to have Authority,   you must be successful.   The National team will take anyone at this point because they're desperate.   The future of the NT is very bleak.   After this failure they will be grouped with the toughest teams in Europe.....so forget about qualifying for at least another 6 years.   PAOK has never dominated anything in their history.   Never wins championships or qualifies for CL.   Even if PAOK wins 1 championship that's nothing a drop in the bucket.   There's no Authority anywhere at this point in time.   When the league straightens out,   and the NT team gets its act together,   it will be Olympiakos and PAO at the top....there's no other way.

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20 minutes ago, PAOKSYD said:

Woah you have real issue my friend. 

I have issues?   While you're dreaming of a PAOK empire.  Lol 

Let's just stick to discussing football.   Why do you and others here always bring up conspiracies,  and think there's some kind of football war going on?   Why are you making it out to be this big thing?    

BTW,   PAOK is getting hammered in Europe,  and home by a mid pack SL type team.

 

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True and your team would be playing in the Football League if it wasn't for Savvidis.

BTW I see PAOK dropping points in this game if we show the same attitude like we did today.

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