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MATCHUP:             P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki – A.E.K. Athens
COMPETITION:     Superleague – Round 4
DATE:                      23-September-2018

TIME:                      20:30 EET  (17:30 GMT, 12:30 CDT, 03:30 AEST next day)
CITY/STADIUM:    Thessaloniki - Toumba Stadium (Capacity: 28,703)
REFEREES:             Matias Gestranius - Mikko Alcare, Riku Vreavuori (Finland)
TELEVISION:         Novasport 1 (Greece, Cyprus, Albania), Sport Plus, PAOK TV (Worldwide except Greece, Cyprus, Albania)

PAOK vs AEK history:

SUPERLEAGUE

2017-2018:  1:0 (Varela) - Attendance: 21,431  (the paper champion won the game 3:0 on forfeit)
2016-2017:  0:1 - Attendance: 15,413   (PLAYOFFS)
2016-2017:  1:0 (Matos) - Attendance: 18,741
2015-2016:  2:1 (Rodrigues, Mystakidis) - Attendance: no fans (PLAYOFFS)
2015-2016:  2:1 (Rodrigues, Athanasiadis-p) - Attendance: 21,999
2014-2015:  AEK played in 2rd Division
2013-2014:  AEK played in 3rd Division
2012-2013:  1:0 (Athanasiadis) - Attendance:  15,239
2011-2012:  1:0 (Georgiadis) - Attendance:  9,771 (PLAYOFFS)
2011-2012:  3:0 (Vieirinha, Athanasiadis, Salpiggidis) - Attendance:  19,235
2010-2011:  2:1 (Garcia, Vitolo-p) - Attendance:  19,075  (PLAYOFFS)
2010-2011:  2:1 (Fotakis, Vieirinha) - Attendance:  18,453
2009-2010:  1:0 (Muslimovic) - Attendance:  25,303  (PLAYOFFS)
2009-2010:  0:1 - Attendance:  18,589
2008-2009:  0:1 - Attendance:  28,703  (PLAYOFFS)
2008-2009:  1:1 (Muslimovic) - Attendance:  25,203
2007-2008:  0:4 - Attendance:  11,569
2006-2007:  2:0 (Arabatzis, Mieciel) - Attendance:  15,686
2005-2006:  2:1 (Salpiggidis, own goal)- Attendance:  10,367

ALPHA ETHNIKI (Professional)

2004-2005:  1:1 (Feutchine) - Attendance:  9,568
2003-2004:  3:2 (Giasemakis 2, Salpiggidis) - Attendance:  24,829
2002-2003:  0:1 - Attendance: 11,340
2001-2002:  3:2 (Georgiadis, Katsiabis, Okkas) - Attendance: 21,542
2000-2001:  2:1 (Froussos 2) - Attendance:  7,038
1999-2000:  4:4 (Maragos, Dolberg, Georgiadis, Valencia) - Attendance:  22,226
1998-1999:  2:1 (Olivares 2) - Attendance:  13,535
1997-1998:  0:0 - Attendance:  30,347
1996-1997:  0:0 - Attendance:  24,056
1995-1996:  1:3 (Zouboulis)- Attendance:  7,946
1994-1995:  1:1 (FanRoy) - Attendance:  13,509
1993-1994:  0:0 - Attendance:  11,248
1992-1993:  2:1 (Lagonidis, own goal) - Attendance:  9,267
1991-1992:  2:2 (Toursounidis, Lagonidis) - Attendance:  6,184
1990-1991:  1:1 (Mitsibonas) - Attendance:  13,782
1989-1990:  1:1 (Skartados-p) - Attendance:  35,346
1988-1989:  0:1 - Attendance:  31,969
1987-1988:  2:2 ( Bannon, Karasavidis) - Attendance:  33,243
1986-1987:  1:0 (Vasilakos) - Attendance:  14,167
1985-1986:  2:1 (Siggas, Vasilakos)  - Attendance:  24,113
1984-1985:  1:1 (C. Dimopoulos) - Attendance:  40,506
1983-1984:  1:0 (Kostikos) - Attendance:  11,886 (played at Serres)
1982-1983:  5:0 (C. Dimopoulos 3, Koudas, Kostikos) - Attendance:  10,468
1981-1982:  1:1 (Georgopoulos) - Attendance:  15,706
1980-1981:  1:2 (Sarafis) - Attendance:  36,964  (Kaftanzoglio Stadium)
1979-1980:  4:0 (Guerino 2, Orfanos, Vasilakos) - Attendance:  24,082

ALPHA ETHNIKI (Amateur/Semi-Professional)

1978-1979:  2:1 (Guerino, Kostikos) - Attendance:  41,909
1977-1978:  1:1 (Damanakis) - Attendance:  17,552
1976-1977:  0:0 - Attendance:  45,252
1975-1976:  1:0 (Guerino) - Attendance:  45,010
1974-1975:  1:1 (Kermanidis) - Attendance:  39,017
1973-1974:  3:0 (Paridis, Terzanisis, Aslanidis) - Attendance:  26,426
1972-1973:  0:0 - Attendance:  39,554
1971-1972:  2:0 (Sarafis, Paridis) - Attendance:  35,411
1970-1971:  0:0 - Attendance:  25,660
1969-1970:  4:0 (Sarafis 2, Paridis, Koudas) - Attendance:  21,716
1968-1969:  1:1 (Terzanidis) - Attendance:  18,247
1967-1968:  1:2 (Giakoumis) - Attendance:  22,156
1966-1967:  1:0 (Giakoumis) - Attendance:  19,640
1965-1966:  1:1 (Charalambidis) - Attendance:  13,225
1964-1965:  1:1(Apostolidis) - Attendance:  9,337
1963-1964:  1:0 (Mouratidis) - Attendance:  19,912
1962-1963:  0:3 - Attendance:  14,442
1961-1962:  1:2 (Kiourtzis) - Attendance:  13,276
1960-1961:  1:1 (Raptopoulos) - Attendance:  ?
1959-1960:  1:2 (Nikolaidis)- Attendance:  14,230

PANHELLENIC CHAMPIONSHIP (Amateur)

1958-1959:  1:3 (Kiourtzis)- Attendance:  ?
1957-1958:  1:1 (Kouiroukidis)- Attendance:  ?  (Harilaou Stadium)
1953-1954:  2:2 ()- Attendance:  ?
1939-1940:  3:4 (Kalogiannis 2)- Attendance:  ?
1935-1936:  4:1 ()- Attendance:  ?
1931-1932:  2:2 ()- Attendance:  ?
1930-1931:  1:2 (Papaiordanidis)- Attendance:  ?  (Iraklis Stadium)

GAMES:   70    WINS:  29    TIES:  25    LOSSES:  16

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  • Blackhawk changed the title to SL–R4: PAOK - AEK (23-Sep-18, 20:30 EEST)

Με Έλληνα διαιτητή θα ήμασταν δύσκολα. Τουλάχιστον ο ξένος διαιτητής δεν θα επιτρέψει την είσοδο του πάγκου της ΑΕΚ σε κάθε φάση, τις συζητήσεις με τους διαιτητές και το θέατρο που τόσο καλά ξέρουν να κάνουν.

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  • Blackhawk changed the title to SL–R4: PAOK - AEK (23-Sep-18, 20:30 EEST)

Refs from overseas for derbies is a great idea. We saw in last years cup final which had 3 red cards and a penalty not one decision was argued by the players. They accepted it and moved on. 

Has this been enforced by FIFA or did the Superleague commission agree to having foreign refs for derbies? 

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Για να δούμε τι ενδεκάδα θα επιλέξει ο Ρουμάνος. Λογικά θα επιστρέψουν στη βασική ενδεκάδα οι Μάτος, Κρέσπο, Κάνιας, και Πρίγιοβιτς. Το ενδιαφέρον θα είναι ποιος θα παίξει δίπλα στον Κάνιας. Η λογική λέει ένας από τους Μαουρίσιο/Πόντους, το κακό είναι πως και οι δύο έβγαλαν 90άλεπτο. Επίσης οι θέσεις πίσω από τον Πρίγιοβιτς είναι ερωτηματικό. Ο Ζαμπά ήταν εξαιρετικός με την Τσέλσι, αλλά ίσως προτιμηθεί ο Λημνιός. Ο Μπίσεσβαρ επίσης θα πρέπει να ξεκινήσει, αλλά το πιθανότερο νομίζω είναι να ξεκινήσει τον Πέλκα και τον Ελ Καντουρί. Θα έλεγα να αφήσει στον πάγκο και τον Βιεϊρίνια που πάει από το κακό στο χειρότερο, αλλά δύσκολα να ξεκινήσει τον Τόσκα και σε αυτό το ματς λογικά θα μας χρειαστεί βασικός.

Ρέι

Μάτος-Βαρέλα-Κρέσπο-Βιεϊρίνια

Κάνιας-Μαουρίσιο

Λημνιός-Πέλκας-Ελ Καντουρί

Πρίγιοβιτς

Αναλόγως πως θα πάει ο Ελ Καντουρί και ο Πέλκας κάπου στο 60 να μπει ο Πρίγιοβιτς, ο Πόντους ίσως στη θέση του Μαουρίσιο και ένας εκ των Ουάρντα ή Ζαμπά στη θέση του Λημνιού. Αν και θα προτιμούσα να ξεκινήσει ο Ζαμπά έναντι του Λημνιού.

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7 hours ago, Athens4 said:

I am very annoyed with Paschalakis and will be happy for him to see the bench for a few games.

Paschalakis has certainly came back to earth with a thud this season. I suspect his limitations were not really exposed last season, as when he came in, the team was wiping the floor with everyone. 

Can't take anything away from him though, he is in his late 20s, and really never played much before coming to us & he took his opportunity with both hands. 

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He has gotten tested a lot more this preseason, but I am not convinced that he's not any good. I think most of his issues so far have stemmed from some sort of arrogance/sense of entitlement. Some time on the bench might serve him well.

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Is all this stemming from his celebrations V OFI? Had one bad moment v Chelsea where he flapped very badly at a corner(show me a keeper that's played in Greece who hasn't had flaws) but apart from that I thought he was one of our best. 

If it's a question of his provoking the OFI fans, who knows the m*****es he heard from the stands, he lost his cool it happens all over the world. In Greece it happens more often. 

Anyways looks like he'll start vs AEK as his hearing has been pushed back to early next week. 
Must win game this one, but we all know that. Interested to see what Razvan does in the middle of the pitch, whether it's Wernbloom or Canas who partners Maurico. 
Biseswar to start please

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He was incredibly lucky during the first half of the game with Chelsea, and I think he's looked shaky the whole preseason. But, again, I don't think it's a lack of skill.

His celebrations are nothing new, the camera crews in Greece know by this point that if PAOK scores, that they should immediately show him because he gets so pumped up. It's pretty great stuff.

 

As for the AEK match - if there's one thing I'm confident on, it's that Canas will play the game. Wernbloom was the sacrificial goat for Chelsea.

 

Here's my lineup, though I fear that El Kaddouri will play instead of Biseswar.

 

                --Pashalakis--

--Matos--Varela--Crespo--Vieirinha--

          --Canas--Mauricio--

   --Limnios--Pelkas--Biseswar--

                 --Prijovic--

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True, and Rudiger should have had a red card for hitting Warda. There was also a penalty not called on Mauricio before the half. Chelsea players got away with some clear fouls.

Still, Vierinha has been very poor the last couple games. Both the goals (OFI, Chelsea) came from his poor defensive plays.

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