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Croatia - Greece ( Round 2, 1st Leg, 9 Nov. 2017, Stadion Maksimir, Zagreb )

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12 minutes ago, bbaw said:

faroe was a F*** y** to the coach.....they did not want him so the players threw the game

That F*** you costed us around 10 if not more FIFA ranking spots!

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4 hours ago, Boxou said:

skibbe's desicion to put zeca on the wings, start maniatis and tziolis remains unexplainable however.

However notice that Zeka came to PAO as RM. skibbe wanted a defensive lineup and both Samaris and Taxtdidis cannot play on the wing. With Mantalis and Donis out he had limited choices.

He could have played

------Tsiolis Zeka

Lazaros ------------- Stafilidis

 

He went for defence (given that Zeka can play and played Mandalos position well) but Samaris and Stafilidis played horribly. This is the issue; Change Samaris with Siopis or Kourbelis and have Stafilidis play his usual aggressive game and we will do better.

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watching sweden italy ---- 1-0 ---- italy pressing.... off the ball movement, attacking open spaces,  purposeful passing, probing looking for the crack in sweden defense...beautiful 

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Just finished watching the Swe/itly game I also watched the NI game, boys no team looked as pathetic as us and every team gave there selves a decent chance in there next game... As bad as we are and as bad as we've been to give up for goals against in the most important game in two years is hard to swallow and doesn't make sense... I know some of you don't want to hear this but majority of blame had to fall on Skibe and not doing enough homework to know Maniatis will get rapped in that position, Staf has played a total of 20 min in that position all year so to start him there didn't make sense, And Tziolis with his extreme slowness will not be able to fit in with a fast team.. All of these mistakes fall on Skibbe as the players were set up to fail the minute that line was announced.. You can say it's on the players all you want and of course some of it is but when you ask guys to play somewhere they're not comfortable or against a superior team you are shooting yourselves in the foot. This one goes to Skibbe for me..

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Why wasn't Zeca on Modric the whole game? I remember when Zeca was marking Pjanic in the Bosnia game. The coach is crumbling in the worst of times. 

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So I just read that since greece needs to chase the game Skibbe is thinking of staring 

Karnezis

toro

Manolas 

socr

tzav

tziolis( this coach is F***ed)

taxi

fort

laz

baka

mitro

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If Tziolis even plays in this game I say fire his ass! No way Zeca doesn't start was our best player yesterday and it should be Stafy over Tzavellas and Pelkas needs to start. The kid will run his ass off trust me.

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Mate I know they say never lose hope and it has been done before to come back from a 3 goal deficit but in all honestly our fa are a mess! How can players without a club and players who ride the bench week in and week out get a spot in this team! Corruption is this country's worst enemy its bitten us in every sector  

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I am still trying to come to terms with the selection Skibbe made for the Croatia game. I looked on Live Score before the game started and the line-up they had there was loads better than the one we trotted out. Lazaros was in it and Maniatis definitely wasn't our RB, we were also playing a 4-4-1-1 formation on it too. 

 

How the hell Live Score got the line-up so wrong is weird? Unless Skibbe made some crazy last minute changes. 

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so obvious. Zeca on the wing is wasted. he should have man marked modric and taken him out the game. Zeca is wasted on the wings. He's not creative nor a goal scorer. He's an engine and can man mark like a dog on meat.

 

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12 minutes ago, georgelaz said:

so obvious. Zeca on the wing is wasted. he should have man marked modric and taken him out the game. Zeca is wasted on the wings. He's not creative nor a goal scorer. He's an engine and can man mark like a dog on meat.

 

That's why I continue to say Skibbe blow this game for us.. it's very obvious as his style and choices were Ridiculous... 

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What happened to all the theories that EPO forces us to start Tziolis claims from before Skibbe? Now it's all Skibbe's fault? Which one is it?

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2 hours ago, J1078 said:

That's why I continue to say Skibbe blow this game for us.. it's very obvious as his style and choices were Ridiculous... 

100%

 

when alefanto outcoaches the skibbster

 

GAMATA OLA

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25 minutes ago, Omonoia9 said:

What happened to all the theories that EPO forces us to start Tziolis claims from before Skibbe? Now it's all Skibbe's fault? Which one is it?

 

 

let's take ALL the NT;s in this world.

on how many of ALL the NT's in god's world does Tziolara get an automatic start?

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1 minute ago, tantra129 said:

 

 

let's take ALL the NT;s in this world.

on how many of ALL the NT's in god's world does Tziolara get an automatic start?

Ok, but why? EPO or Skibbe?

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8 minutes ago, tantra129 said:

both

I'm just saying, even before Skibbe, people thought EPO was forcing managers to put him in through Tsanas, the EPO spy and sometimes manager.

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1 minute ago, tantra129 said:

so ... to be honest ... i don't REALLY know, bur how present is tsanas nowadays anyhow

??????????

None of us knows who spies for EPO anymore. What we do know is, there are veteran players who always get to play even when their club careers fizzle out. Sometimes guys who don't even play for clubs and haven't played in months get to play. 

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The Alephant is spot on, by George! Tziolaris must start at AM in order to give us the attacking edge.  :boom:      Samaris, Tziol, Maniatis and Orestis need a spell.

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Reality is, our chances are 0.1% or less. Many would say 0%. Real pity. Our only hope is, if we can score 1-0 in 1st half and find a 2nd without conceding and with enough time to make them sweat. This guy Alefantos makes a lot of sense. Zeca has to man mark Modric. We need run in the midfield and on the flanks. It's doable. We will know in the first 15 minutes if the players give it a go.

After the match, Scibbe said "Όλοι μπορούν να κάνουν λάθη. Είμαστε ομάδα και όλοι μπορούν να κάνουν λάθη στο γήπεδο. Ακόμα και ο προπονητής μπορεί να κάνει λάθη. Σήμερα δεν νομίζω ότι εγώ έκανα πολλά λάθη". He needs to do better.  

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skibe threw the players under the bus.....

every coach i ever played for at a significant level ALWAYS accpeted the ultimate responsibility when our teams lost. "Im the coach and its my job to make sure players have the best chance to succeed"   stuff like that.....and when we won they would say "its not me, its the players that deserve all the credit, they did it on the field/court etc. etc." 

i run through walls for coaches like that. but in true greek mentality fashion when a coach says " imade no mistakes" when we all know skibbe played guys out of position and in the 2nd half when it was obvious after 45 minutes the lineup he chose needed changes he laid an egg" well then I think to myself "a kai g*****! m#$%!" or something poetically similar

u CANT blame your players ----- u lose their respect and as we all know, in greece the graveyard for soccer coaches, that can be fatal...

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Karnezis: 31 minuets of EPL game time all season.

Stafylidis: Not a single league match all season.

Maniatis: Sporadic appearance for mid table Turkish club side.

Tziolis: Sporadic appearance for a Saudi side in relegation.

Greece’s biggest match in three years & they all start.

 

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