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OK guys, so this is the current standings for the playoffs 

1. Portugal 18 pts +18
2. Italy 14 pts  +3
3. Sweden 13 pts +10
4. Denmark 13 pts +7
5. Northern Ireland 13 pts +5
6. Greece 13 pts +4
7. Wales 11 pts +2
8. Croatia 11 pts +2
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9. Scotland 11 pts -1
 

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as much difficult is for us to get a playoff spot, the likes of scotland which have to win in slovenia and ireland which have to win wales or croatia which have to win in ukraine, what about them? we have probably one of the easiest fixtures out there even if it's not completely up to us. 

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I Like what J1078 said in his last post.

Relax for a moment fickle fans. Woulda, shouda, couda don't matter now, too many times I see negative posts on the "Ethniki".

HERE WE ARE. We have a match at home vs Gibraltar, and it would just be a treat to see some goals. Had we been asked before a single game was played if we would be ok with Greece having the 2nd spot behind Belgium....I think that most of us would be alright with this. Belgium is Belgium. Yes we did nearly beat them away, and we unfortunately lost a good battle at home.

All Greece can do is play the game tuesday. Forget the formation, the lineup, this squad will win. as for everything else, the Greek team, nor us the Greek fans cannot control that. Tuesday wake up, make a good strong Elliniko Kafedaki, iron your fanella, polish the komboloi, have a couple of shots of Metaxa "3" star and enjoy the match.

As for the playoffs, once the dust settles....should other results push us into the playoffs. Greece can save their best for last. Clutch, as per usual....We never take the easy way, the hard way is the one we have always known.

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Actually I think our most likely route will be Republic of Ireland beating or drawing with Wales. Both these teams can still qualify and I think Wales are just a one man team (Gareth Bale). 

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1 hour ago, Chris Tsamados said:

Actually I think our most likely route will be Republic of Ireland beating or drawing with Wales. Both these teams can still qualify and I think Wales are just a one man team (Gareth Bale). 

Correct.

I give a 40% for Wales to draw Rep of Ireland or even lose to them. Gareth Bale is injured and missing.

40%  chance for Slovenia to at least draw Scotland

20% chance for the Ukraine match to go our way. I honestly hope Ukraine DOES beat Croatia since they kick Croatia out of hte play offs an then it's probably gonna be Switzerland - Italy the only hard opponents for us. Northern Ireland and Sweden really aren't so hard to beat in a play off format. Maybe a Group stage but definately , a play off match , we know how to win those (rememberhow we got into Euro 2012 WC 2010 and WC 2014 all via play offs).

Possibility wise in the first two matches 4 out of 6 results suit us. What are the odds the other 2 results come? Ireland beating Wales by 5 is impossible. Not to mention that those guys (Irish Welsh Scotts English) literally hate each other when it comes to football so I doubt any of them would lose on purpose so that the other has a chance.

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i also hope ukraine beats croatia. i think we'll be in from today as scotland won't beat slovenia (they barely escaped from a game at home against slovakia with a 90th min own goal and all that while playing with 1 man up from the 20th minute).

 

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10 hours ago, J1078 said:

I agree we should have battled it out with Belgium for first but bottom line we went toe to toe with Belgium and could have one the first game and should have gotten a draw in the second.. Belgium are a much better team then us. So you expect us to take first from Belgium but are afraid to play Denmark,Sweden ,Swis? Belgium are much better then those teams. There is nothing wrong with furnishing second in a group that has a much stronger opponent then our team.. at least we managed to finish second. The only down fall was the draw to Estonia.. I think Greece will bring there A game when they're the underdogs as we showed with Belgium.. let's just pray for one more result so we can get into the playoffs and who ever we draw we draw..

I never expected us to take first from Belgium,  but we should have controlled the group with Belgium. Look at Italy/Spain they locked up 1st and 2nd, Portugal and Swiss the same Germany and Northern Ireland the same. We went into the last weekend in 3rd place hoping for so many scenarios to help us. Still waiting on like 4 outcomes for dragging our asses over the line. In a group with Gibraltar, Estonia, Cyprus and Bosnia we should have finished in 2nd like a boss with max pts from those teams, and plus 15 goals and  not praying for a miracle to save us. 

We were Euro champs 13 yrs ago but nothing has changed. We are the first Euro champs to not qualify for a World Cup after winning the title, we couldn't even get into last years Euros which was suppose to be a given. And now we wait on teams like Scotland to help us lmfao 😂

If we do make it to the playoffs those 4 seeded teams will be licking their lips in hope of playing us. They will wipe the floor with this national team. 

A Lot of you will probably say im anti-Greek and etc etc. But really I have lived thru the dark ages of Greek football. When we qualified for our first Tournament I was in heaven. But when we won 2004 I thought this is the making of something beautiful. Things were on the way up. The federation would build on this. But instead it has slowly gone backwards. We are sinking faster and faster and soon no way back again. We will only have the memory of 04 to think about. 

 

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^Yes I will agree with you that we should have locked up second place and actually we had plenty of opportunities to do so. But realistically speaking Greece has never really qualified for a tournament with ease they usually always have to go to a playoff as they've never done it the easy way. Greece is and never was one of those teams that will hammer through qualifiers with ease bottom line they've just never been good enough when compared to the elites.. But I disagree that the teams waiting for the playoffs would be licking there chops to go a against Greece. Greece always plays the better teams hard and the weaker teams worse and that's because Greece cant play when they are forced to keep possession and force the game, Greece is good when they sit back take what's being thrown at them and then catch you on a counter. If your hoping Greece will ever become an elite team that's just not going to happen. Lets be happy if Greece can become a second tier team under the elites which is very respectable and still gives them decent chances to progress in tournaments.. After the last campaign which was an absolute s%$#! show at least they have come back and taken second in a much tougher group then we had for the euro qualifiers that we finished last.. Its a step in the right direction from last campaign..

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I agree with you Greece will never be an elite team. And they always do things the hard way. It's not good like that.

its only going to get worse. We are ranked 48 we will probably be seeded in pot 4 for the next tournament 

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Watching the game now. Slovenia definitely the better team and pretty much having constant possession. Let's hope Scotland don't get a lucky winner.

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Why Donis was not played on left wing with fourtounis behind mitro baffles me.... 4-2-3-1 should be our line up. Any ways if we beat Gibraltar are we in??

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Ela re Torontoblue,

I hear what you are saying.....But we don't have the talent that the big boys of Europe have the luxury of. Are you trying to imply that since Euro 2004 Greece have had comparable stud players littered through our lineup and we have just s%$#! the bed at a casual pace...then I don't follow you.

today is a new day, the Greek National team controls what they can. We have Gibraltar tomorrow. What would you be saying if we had Belgium away instead as our last game tomorrow. 

Don't trim your pinkie nail, polish up up your oversize Stavrouli, drink 2 shots of Metaxa 3 star tomorrow, if need be light up a Karelia classic and just enjoy tomorrow's match and don't be that guy that is going to be revisiting all of the past errors of the Ethniki or else you might get a pandolfla from a cousin.

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7 hours ago, Torontoblue said:

 

A Lot of you will probably say im anti-Greek and etc etc. But really I have lived thru the dark ages of Greek football. When we qualified for our first Tournament I was in heaven. But when we won 2004 I thought this is the making of something beautiful. Things were on the way up. The federation would build on this. But instead it has slowly gone backwards. We are sinking faster and faster and soon no way back again. We will only have the memory of 04 to think about. 

 

your opinion is not anti-greek at all

 

the federation is the biggest scam of all time. federations in general, are ANTI-soccer. look at what they impose on youth players.ALL about the $$$ and nothing to develop these players.

filled with political interests, quick wins which lead to short-sightedness

the heroes of 2004 opened their eyes, but it was only for a brief second. epo made huge profits in 2004....where are they now?

since 2004, we have had better players than the euro champs, but have not accomplished our potential

one of the differences is that as a unit, we did not perform. in 2004, it was ONE unit, not ONE player

today, everyone is looking at the guy next to them to be the hero, someone ELSE take charge..... that was not the case in 2004, all with less talented/skilled players.

and given it's a greek federation, it is even worse than you can imagine. point final.

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2 hours ago, trotsk13 said:

Scotland ties... That mean Greece is in, correct?

Yes Scotland maxed out at 18 points. Greece win we have 19 points.

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tantra129,

 

tell us something that most of us already don't know. It is what it is, what are you going to do about it? Accept it. Greece's soccer federation is a disaster and a pissing match between the handful of big clubs. Soccer is a gong show in Greece. Corruption is a rife as Greek politics. What are you really expecting? Transparency, fairness, honesty, and good faith. Hell, they even were wire tapping and video taping the Greek players a their facility. 

If we all really, really, really want to be extremely honest about Greek soccer. Please give me odds what it would be for Greece to win another Euro or a world cup. I think you are dipping into your papa's tsipouro.

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FT Norway 1 North Ireland 0

Would that have helped Us? Or did Norway need to win by more than one Goal?  

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