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Greece vs Belgium (3 September 2017- World Cup Qualifier- Karaiskakis Stadium, Piraeus)


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I can't believe we are in this situation where even if we scrape into 2nd in our group it still may not be enough to go to the playoffs. How could we not come away with a win vs Estonia, we see these minnows sometimes manage to get results as Luxembourg did vs France, but at least France generated chance after chance. Greece had what 2 shots on target and the best chance was Manolas header in the box of a free kick. What did our forwards and attacking midfielders do? It was a listless performance in the most vital game, a win vs Estonia would have us in playoff spot regardless of what happened vs Belgium. 

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we don't need to go into details on what happened to previous games, a lot of ifs there. (if kapino had saved lukaku's 90min goal, if mantalos had scored in the fast break against bosnia, if we had beaten estonia etc etc) the point is that there are 3 groups at the moment which can easily miss the playoffs with REASONABLE results. no need to be desperate and hopeless since the other groups should worry more about that. for example we have just to beat cyrpus and gibraltar while bosnia to drop points to one of belgium and estonia..ireland-wales are playing each other in that group, so do netherlands against sweden and scotland against slovakia and slovenia. all are direct competitors for the 2nd place and could easily missed as it's been pointed out..

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4 hours ago, Ellada2004 said:

I can't believe we are in this situation where even if we scrape into 2nd in our group it still may not be enough to go to the playoffs. How could we not come away with a win vs Estonia, we see these minnows sometimes manage to get results as Luxembourg did vs France, but at least France generated chance after chance. Greece had what 2 shots on target and the best chance was Manolas header in the box of a free kick. What did our forwards and attacking midfielders do? It was a listless performance in the most vital game, a win vs Estonia would have us in playoff spot regardless of what happened vs Belgium. 

why didnt u post this when Bosnia generated chance after chance against us in Athens, but yet they failed to win us? You only see this based on what suits you. We lost 2 points vs Estonia when Bosnia lost 3 to Cyprus. We could have lost 1 point vs Bosnia and having this campaign ended from matchday 6.

 

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4 hours ago, Rockafeller Skank said:

why didnt u post this when Bosnia generated chance after chance against us in Athens, but yet they failed to win us? You only see this based on what suits you. We lost 2 points vs Estonia when Bosnia lost 3 to Cyprus. We could have lost 1 point vs Bosnia and having this campaign ended from matchday 6.

 

No we did get fortunate to get a late draw in that game for sure. Things have started to go against us in Belgium when Lukaku scored in the 89 th minute. Then in Bosnia, Mandalos misses a sitter for a sure victory. At home vs Belgium the team deserved at least a draw, the only stinker as I said came last Thursday vs Estonia. Greece should be sitting in 2nd spot with 18 points.

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Jose's goal and great form in both matches should allow him to start next match Lazo.

Samaris does Not have a mortgage on a Greece jumper either, I agree about him. Taxi should be in CM

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18 hours ago, georgelaz said:

finally got to watch the game. we deserved to get at least a point imo.

our best players = staf, donis, zeca, manolas

our worst = tziolis, samaris

I think our CM/CDM combo should be kpaps and tachtsidis going forward.

We definitely deserved a point here. Belgium's first goal no one closed in on Vertonghen, the 2nd goal was a great cross and a beautiful header by Lukaku though Sokratis could have marked him closer. 

I watched the Estonia game and it was just awful and was disappointed to hear Skibbe interviewed after on the field saying how he was happy with a point?

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it was Samaris's job to close down Vertonghen.

the Belgians recognized that our defense was hard to crack so they were taking outside box shots with their cb's as a coping strategy and our s%$#! cdm duo was exposed.

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Just thought this was entertaining from Gazetta.gr. The value of the players capped in Greece-Belgium on Sep 3:

ΕΛΛΑΔΑ:
Καρνέζης: 4 εκατ. ευρώ
Μανιάτης: 1 εκατ. ευρώ
Σωκράτης Παπασταθόπουλος: 28
Μανωλάς: 30
Τζαβέλλας: 1,75
Σάμαρης: 8
Ζέκα: 2,5
Τζιόλης: 800.000
Σταφυλίδης: 4,5
Φορτούνης: 9
Δώνης: 1,25
 
ΑΛΛΑΓΕΣ:
Λυκογιάννης: 1,75
Μπακασέτας: 1
Βέλλιος: 1,25
 
ΣΥΝΟΛΟ: 94 ΕΚΑΤ. 800 ΧΙΛΙΑΔΕΣ ΕΥΡΩ 
 
ΒΕΛΓΙΟ:
Κουρτουά: 40 εκατ. ευρώ
Βερτόνγκεν: 28
Αλντερβάιρελντ: 35
Βερμάλεν: 3
Ντεμπελέ: 18
Μενιέ: 9
Φελαϊνί: 12
Καράσκο: 40
Ντε Μπρόινε: 65
Μερτένς: 28
Λουκάκου: 60
 
ΑΛΛΑΓΕΣ:
Ντεντόνκερ: 15
Τσαντλί: 15
Εντέρ Αζάρ: 75
 
ΣΥΝΟΛΟ: 443 ΕΚΑΤ. ΕΥΡΩ
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3 hours ago, Argy said:

Just thought this was entertaining from Gazetta.gr. The value of the players capped in Greece-Belgium on Sep 3:

ΕΛΛΑΔΑ:
Καρνέζης: 4 εκατ. ευρώ
Μανιάτης: 1 εκατ. ευρώ
Σωκράτης Παπασταθόπουλος: 28
Μανωλάς: 30
Τζαβέλλας: 1,75
Σάμαρης: 8
Ζέκα: 2,5
Τζιόλης: 800.000
Σταφυλίδης: 4,5
Φορτούνης: 9
Δώνης: 1,25
 
ΑΛΛΑΓΕΣ:
Λυκογιάννης: 1,75
Μπακασέτας: 1
Βέλλιος: 1,25
 
ΣΥΝΟΛΟ: 94 ΕΚΑΤ. 800 ΧΙΛΙΑΔΕΣ ΕΥΡΩ

Nice info;

I can say that Δώνης is undervalued; Σάμαρης overvalued.

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We were missing Mitroglou and Papadopoulos which is easily a combined 30m. Sokratis is a little undervalued, probably due to his age. The Belgians are great but some of their price tags are a little inflated due to their club and country. 

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