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Estonia vs. Greece (10 October 2016, A Le Coq Arena, Tallinn)

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Hooray, no conflicting emotions here. The ethniki are off to Tallinn to visit Estonia. Need to keep the pace with another win.

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3 minutes ago, Akritis_1944 said:

That's great news. Now if we can pay someone to break Maniatis' and Tziolis' legs.

Problem is if that happens, Tsanas/Skibbe will more likely call Katsouranis out of retirement..

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A win here Is a must no excuses, if we win and Cyprus can somehow pull of a miracle tie against Bosnia then we are looking good considering Bosnia got spanked by Belgium.

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Skibbe now has to call someone up. 

Edited by J1078

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46 minutes ago, J1078 said:

Skibbe now has to call someone up. 

 

Dangerous time..

 

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1 hour ago, Reaper said:

 

Dangerous time..

 

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great choice of photos of them too lol!

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Mantalos will just play in Fortounis place at CAM, hopefully Gianniotas/Karelis get a spot on the wings now that Mantalos will be in the center. 

Crucial game, at the end of qualifying its these tricky away games that will determine who will finish where. 

They put 4 past Gibraltar which is the same as the amount we did. We should win but will have to dig deep, I'm guessing they will sit back and play on the counter.

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Watch Staf fill in for tzavellas and tziolis slide into midfield :confused:

Edited by Nikod

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For the Estonia match without Samaris, Fortounis & Tzavellas out injured.

------------------Karnezis-----------------

------Manolas---Kyriakos---Sokratis---

Toro---Maniatis---Tachtsidis---Holebas

Gianiottas----------------------Mantalos

------------------Mitroglou---------------

 

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2 hours ago, 1789 said:

What's with Katsouranis and the color pink?

There is a lot of history there. 

 

I can't believe skibsters picks in the CM. I think I actually miss good old kats .

 

i understand skibbes thinking, but where is the logic? Way to cripple a side. 

Bastardized football. 

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Without Fortounis or Ninis they lack creativity in the playmaker roll in the middle of the park, therefore you play to the strengths of what you have available & with the above team or something similar Greece will be very strong in set pieces like corners with Kyriakos, Sokratis & Manolas Estonia will struggle to score from corners & pooh their pants every corner or set pieces Greece get. With Maniatis in the midfield you know he will hunt down any Estonian attacking options, win those 50/50 battles allowing Tachtidis to be more creative in attack or the wing backs can push forward with piece of mind that Maniatis will cover. 

Greece can not have both Tziolis & Maniatis. Two defensive midfielders limited in attack is a mistake & if you pick one you go for Maniatis as Tziolis not only lacks creativity in attack but shows no urgency in defense.

Prediction Estonia 0 Greece 1

Edited by Greekaroos

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Do you really think Maniatis is match fit (in football terms) to play 2 games in such a small period of time when he does not have a team?

 

i don't think so

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Playing 90 minutes against Cyprus would of benefit him a lot & yes as much as he lacks in creativity in attack as a individual he is very important to the chemistry of the team as shown since his return to the team in the match against the Netherlands after almost a year out with injury. 

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^ Yes please. 

Given that Skibbe and EPO are entitled to call up 3 players for the injured trio but haven't, that's probably the best we can expect.

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I am afraid the rumours are Skibbe will refuse to call up any extra players and just continue to shuffle the existing players he has into the holes.

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Yes I'm reading the same here.

That was Rehhagel's eventual downfall and if Skibbe thinks he can repeat what his German compatriot achieved by selecting players like Tziolis and Maniatis who are deemed not worthy to play for their clubs then he will learn soon enough how shortsighted and doomed to failure this approach is.

Time will tell all. Even if there are wins against a poor Estonia and average Bosnia it's obvious that you must select the best and in-form players and not go with Charisteas as a right midfielder when he's not at a club.

Edited by Akritis_1944
Typo

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If Skibbe has the option to call up players then why not use it? Is he that closed minded? Does he not see what everyone else sees? If he plays Maniatis and Tziolis in this match then I'm truly at a loss for words. Right now with Fortounis out would be a great opportunity to call up Ninis and even bring him off the bench at some point and see what he can offer. Let's see what he decides but this Coach is really looking like a yes man with no eye for talent.

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9 hours ago, Greekaroos said:

Playing 90 minutes against Cyprus would of benefit him a lot & yes as much as he lacks in creativity in attack as a individual he is very important to the chemistry of the team as shown since his return to the team in the match against the Netherlands after almost a year out with injury. 

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one of the most important aspects in a football player's performance is recovery

you have managers limit a player's minutes when there are 2 games in a week (ex a cup game or CL)

maniatis has not been playing for a long time and therefore the recovery period is longer

if he does play, i will be VERY surprised he is able to perform at all

 

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