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They withdrew from the SL in March 2015 :  http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/podosfairo/apoxwrise-o-ofi/3078491

In May 2016 OFI were promoted to Football League:  http://www.ant1news.gr/news/Sports/article/444242/anebike-sti-football-league-o-ofi

Don’t know if they can do the trick again. Personelly I am not charmed of this method to get rid of debts and start all over again like nothing happened. 

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5 hours ago, Dutch Eagle said:

They withdrew from the SL in March 2015 :  http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/podosfairo/apoxwrise-o-ofi/3078491

In May 2016 OFI were promoted to Football League:  http://www.ant1news.gr/news/Sports/article/444242/anebike-sti-football-league-o-ofi

Don’t know if they can do the trick again. Personelly I am not charmed of this method to get rid of debts and start all over again like nothing happened. 

I agree,  I'm not a fan also.  That being said....the league is in a crisis.  We can't afford to see historic clubs go bankrupt.  If they played hardball and pushed teams to bankruptcy,  AEK,  PAO,  OFI, and ARIS would be gone....can the league afford this?  Who would even care to watch?  Nova as an example is holding on to 10 million dollars of PAOs debt,  the reason they can't afford for PAO to  go bankrupt....Who's going to fill the void?  

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Don’t know, jvc!

Look at the ticket sales in Greece: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–18_Superleague_Greece. There is only one word: pathetic. Only the big 4 have above 5K spectators. Even my team can not fill Toumba every time. Maybe we need a total catharsis.

I have a lot of comparison with the Dutch Eredivisie. Soccer is in a deplorabele state too. The National Team flunked and is absent at the WC. All clubs are eliminated from EL or CL. Only 4 wins. Utrecht won only one game against some guys from Malta and one (very good) win against Zenit. Feyenoord and Vitesse won their last MD against opponents that couldn’t care less about that game. Yet though in our league the spectators keep coming. Those truckers from the capital and Feyenoord have every game 50K(+) on board. Despite having a bad season. PSV has 30K. Lowest attendance was Excelsior Rotterdam - VVV Venlo: 3.704 (at the tiniest stadium with the maximum capacity of 4.500).

Greece is a soccer-country like The Netherlands at the moment. No WC. But with one competitor left in EL! Greeks are considered to be passionate people but I can not see it when it comes to going to the stadium. Maybe it is the crisis. But bouzoukia, restaurants and kafenia are full. Most Greeks smoke like hell. Why not save some of that money and go the the stadium. Season tickets aren’t that expensive. Tickets for one game do not cost much either. Still there are no filled stadiums when the big 4 pass by. I see only the kerkides of PAOK-tzides. We overcrowd the home-spectators. Maybe because they tripled the prices as against Platanias cheapest ticket was 30 euro against us. 

Is it corruption that keeps people away from the stadium? Than maybe bankruptcy is the right answer. But in other countries referees make mistakes too. Here cupfinals were won with offside goals too. In Spain Barcelona only this year were not allowed two 100% goals that were clear over the line. Spanish refs are the worst there are. Yellow if you grab someone’s shirt. Nothing for a clear foul. Ramos got away with it with just 24 red cards. Should have been some 50 or so. So are we different from other countries? Don’t think so. Everywhere the big clubs get the benefit of the doubt. 

Unless fraud is detected. Like Calciopoli in Italy. Just nail that club(s) with fines and relegation. But I don’t expect that in Greece as there is nobody willing to, it seems. Otherwise there would have been a law like in England that works against hooliganism. I like the bengalika at stadium but it must be done organised. Not by the hooli-leaders. Kekleismenon thiron is not the answer after yet a game with flares.

So we need some self-deflection and balls in Greece. Ai, why starts my brain hurting just at this moment .....

 

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4 hours ago, Dutch Eagle said:

Don’t know, jvc!

Look at the ticket sales in Greece: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–18_Superleague_Greece. There is only one word: pathetic. Only the big 4 have above 5K spectators. Even my team can not fill Toumba every time. Maybe we need a total catharsis.

I have a lot of comparison with the Dutch Eredivisie. Soccer is in a deplorabele state too. The National Team flunked and is absent at the WC. All clubs are eliminated from EL or CL. Only 4 wins. Utrecht won only one game against some guys from Malta and one (very good) win against Zenit. Feyenoord and Vitesse won their last MD against opponents that couldn’t care less about that game. Yet though in our league the spectators keep coming. Those truckers from the capital and Feyenoord have every game 50K(+) on board. Despite having a bad season. PSV has 30K. Lowest attendance was Excelsior Rotterdam - VVV Venlo: 3.704 (at the tiniest stadium with the maximum capacity of 4.500).

Greece is a soccer-country like The Netherlands at the moment. No WC. But with one competitor left in EL! Greeks are considered to be passionate people but I can not see it when it comes to going to the stadium. Maybe it is the crisis. But bouzoukia, restaurants and kafenia are full. Most Greeks smoke like hell. Why not save some of that money and go the the stadium. Season tickets aren’t that expensive. Tickets for one game do not cost much either. Still there are no filled stadiums when the big 4 pass by. I see only the kerkides of PAOK-tzides. We overcrowd the home-spectators. Maybe because they tripled the prices as against Platanias cheapest ticket was 30 euro against us. 

Is it corruption that keeps people away from the stadium? Than maybe bankruptcy is the right answer. But in other countries referees make mistakes too. Here cupfinals were won with offside goals too. In Spain Barcelona only this year were not allowed two 100% goals that were clear over the line. Spanish refs are the worst there are. Yellow if you grab someone’s shirt. Nothing for a clear foul. Ramos got away with it with just 24 red cards. Should have been some 50 or so. So are we different from other countries? Don’t think so. Everywhere the big clubs get the benefit of the doubt. 

Unless fraud is detected. Like Calciopoli in Italy. Just nail that club(s) with fines and relegation. But I don’t expect that in Greece as there is nobody willing to, it seems. Otherwise there would have been a law like in England that works against hooliganism. I like the bengalika at stadium but it must be done organised. Not by the hooli-leaders. Kekleismenon thiron is not the answer after yet a game with flares.

So we need some self-deflection and balls in Greece. Ai, why starts my brain hurting just at this moment .....

 

All good points.  We just need to build the product back up.  The fan base has vanished.

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Oly just fired Lemonis. Hopefully this will result in more of a slump, instead of a resurgence.

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Atromitos just lost 0-1 vs Panaitolikos. Looks like warda missed a penalty, too

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good result for us, AEK current leading 1-0 vs PAS 26th min, AEK is all over them seems like a matter of time till they get a 2nd

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Currently 2-1 AEK. Hopefully we'll be gifted again.

More surprisingly, Levadiakos is crushing PAO 3-0 with 20 minutes to go.

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23 hours ago, pash said:

Currently 2-1 AEK. Hopefully we'll be gifted again.

More surprisingly, Levadiakos is crushing PAO 3-0 with 20 minutes to go.

How's that surprising?  That's what happens when you don't get paid.  Next week maybe Levadia decides not to show up....hearing half the supa league players are not paid for months.  Second division you're lucky to receive something at the end of the year.

 

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AEK was lucky because PAS did not get a penalty call when the score was 0:0. If it was called it would also have been a red card to the goalie. AEK will have a tough time with all the big and frequent games coming up for them.

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Gifted with an AEK draw today. Didn't think that would happen with Larissa. Lots of yellows on both sides.

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