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i though i'd start this topic as i can name a few that will be part of the Ethniki in the next 3-4 years for example:

 

Adam Tzanteopoulos - AEK Athens

Fanis Tzandaris - Paok

Dimitris Kolovos - Panionios

Angelos Oikonomou - Bayern Munich Youth

 

who else do you guys think will be part of the Ethniki?

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Tzandaris won't be part of the national team, he's a very mediocre player that fell out of favor at PAOK and only played in the beginning of the year because they had no one else.

I love Tzanetopoulos, he's the hardest working Greek player by far, and is a star in the making. However playing at Center back will hurt his NT chances, Dellas will teach him a lot at AEK of course but it will be difficult to overtake Sokratis, K Papa, and Manolas. He can also play defensive midfielder since he's pretty solid with the ball at his feet, look no further than the Atromitos game where he put in a fantastic performance.

I don't know enough about Oikonomou to comment.

Kolovos will need to gain a spot in Olympiakos' rotation or light the league up with Panionios to be called up, he's a very talented player and I would love to have him on my team. With time i think he'll make the ethniki.

Some others are Bakakis, Lagos, Klonaridis, Kourbelis, Anakoglou, and Aravidis. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few also.

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I used to believe there was some big conspiracy against Greek players. You would see these under 21 players - so advanced for their years - just to end up the Greek Championship. 

 

However as the years passed I started to realise that talent is not enough, you need brains. Brains to know playing in the second division in Spain is worth more than the second division in Greece. Brains to realise Serie A is not world beater. Brains to understand when you have a crappy agent. Brains to obey coaches and not tell the press where you think you play best.

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i dont think anakoglou. i see lagos, bouchalakis, tzandaris and even pelkas. i like to see mavrias improve cause i think he could be a useful winger in years to come i also thought vellios would be a tank by now but he is not living up to it

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For me Gianniotas, Klonaridis, Kaltsas, Lagos, Bakakis, Mandalos, should be given their opportunities.

Pelkas, Bouchalakis, Kolovos, Tzandaris, Kourbelis abd Diamantakos need to be playing regularly for them to be serious contenders.

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maybe I am hung up on the term 'future prospects'...and in my mind a 28yo...with the next WC in 2018...is not the answer..

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i dont think anakoglou. i see lagos, bouchalakis, tzandaris and even pelkas. i like to see mavrias improve cause i think he could be a useful winger in years to come i also thought vellios would be a tank by now but he is not living up to it

Anakoglou is a good player, much better on the ball than those players. He's played his best games against Super League teams, watch him next season.

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maybe I am hung up on the term 'future prospects'...and in my mind a 28yo...with the next WC in 2018...is not the answer..

I see where you are coming from and you're right, he's not a "future" player, he's a player that should be called up right away given the form of Klaus Gekas and Mitroglou.

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maybe I am hung up on the term 'future prospects'...and in my mind a 28yo...with the next WC in 2018...is not the answer..

 

We have been here before! 

 

In Greece you can still be a talento at 28 years old!  :D

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Let's not be too harsh on all these younger Greek talents that were overhyped earlier on to just disappear into football oblivion.

Every Country struggles with the same issues.

If England u-21 youngsters had continued to develop the way the media talks about them or some of the transfer fees that were paid for them early on in their careers they would win every single World Cup .

Kotsianikoulis was the first Greek Messi, right ? Ninis was once called potentially to be as good as Fabregas, Modric , Hazard etc as long as there was some other highly rated young player around Europe with similar skin tone, height and haircut that played in midfield then Ninis was him.

As for Vellios that was mentioned above. Here we have a young, strong kid who can play with his back to defenders , good in the air etc. showed tons of promise at Iraklis and then onto Everton but has lost his way a bit. Not so sure if he really isn't that good or doesn't have the proper work ethic but more that he been unlucky placed on teams that either didn't hove him a good run in the first team or had internal coaching issues. Talent will always rise and find its way at some point.

Manolas is the very best Greek footballer at the moment. 3 years ago he was also an unproven Greek youngster

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Speaking as a PAOK fan, the only truly young prospects I see playing for my team these days are Konstantinidis and Koulouris. Maybe Pozoglou, although after a good start with the senior team, he's gotten absolutely no time yet (probably a sign of him not being as good as I like). I believe one of Koulouris and Pozoglou are banned as well, anyway.

 

So that leaves Konstantinidis. Tzandaris had the benefit of lots of playing time with very low expectations, combined with an offense that was scoring for fun. I don't dislike him (he reminds me of a less aggressive Kace), but I think his mediocrity was covered up by those other points. He will end up in a midtable team, as Blackhawk used to say.

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if ninis did not have those injuries he could of became greece main star like the way manolas is for us now

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he made a good decsion i think because he can still prove himself and work harder in pana working for spots with likes of dinas, klonaridis and ajagun. while if he went to AEK i think he would be a definite starter because of the talent he has and the division he is playing in . atm its good for him to work harder and progress as a player at panathinaikos a club where he started and where he is familiar at 

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Ninis plays the same position as Mantalos, what makes any of you think that Ninis would actually start over Mantalos? Not a chance in hell that would of happened.

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yea true Mantalos is starting to be a true playmaker but do u actually think that Ninis would be on the bench if he joined AEK i wouldent dosent matter what position i think he would be starter he did score a goal in his first match back and earned man of the match in that game which was a cup match and against a division 2 team i still believe Ninis can become the player he once was if not better he just has to knuckle down work hard and play more games with pana just hope he can play more.

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Honestly even though I liked Santos I don't think he gave Ninis a fair shot at becoming a regular for the Ethniki, if you know the kid has potential you need give him some time, you can't play him like a yo yo and dress him for one game and sit him for 4 and so on. I think if we were patient with him in regards to the national team he could of become an important piece on the national team, I'm not saying it's to late for Ninis but we have a habit of giving up on kids very early before they actually develop.

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Ninis is 25, and I believe started playing professionally at 16. Hardly a kid any more. So, yes, it might actually be too late. Up to him.

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He is half Cypriot, is he not? I'd think they would be the ones to try to call him up/offer citizenship.

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Diamantakos should be in the Ethniki let alone Olympiakos starting 11 i might be over exaggerating but he is the type of player i think would be very reliable.

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He has 4 goals all year and is a striker, he's played less than 900 minutes this year, what makes you think he's so good

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I think Diamantakos is a very good prospect but I've said it before, if he's not playing regularly then he's wasting our time even discussing him in connection to the NT.

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