georgelaz Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 skibbe too attached to torosidis and samaris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Donis, Pelkas, Fetfatzidis, Manthatis, Tsimikas, Androutsos, Manolas and so on. There are players that are fast. Some very fast like Donis. Skibbe should understand who he has in the talent pool. Tsimikas and Galanopoulos would have been called up if it weren't for u21 duty. Androutsos is a player that should be in this team but hasn't had many games under his belt. Alefantos once said his best position is the number 8 and that he would benefit the national team by playing him their. Why aren't the interviewers asking why Tziolis and Tzavellas got called up? Tzavellas is understandable because we have injuries their. But even then I'd rather someone else. They provide experience and I get that. But we all see how they sabotage our in game play. Karagounis and Katsouranis were older but still provided more. Even Maniatis is a better option. Tziolis is 32 and is playing like a 42 year old. His experience doesn't benefit us as much as Karagounis did or Katsouranis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I expect to see this. Karnezis Bakakis Manolas Sokratis Tzavellas Zeca Kourbelis Lazaros. Fortounis Donis Mitroglou Pelkas, Lykogiannis and Koulouris to come on. Bakakis only has a small injury and could play on the weekend. I don't who should start between Pelkas and Fortounis. Pelkas has impressed me a lot the past couple of weeks. If Tziolis starts then we might as well turn off the TV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxou Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 wasn't bakakis excluded from the squad? good news if he hasn't, i expect him to start. the other back should be lykogiannis and it will be a crime if he isn't. i don't know what more tzavellas will provide. he doesn't cut it anymore. he's slow to play as a left back, doesn't offer anything offensively and often he gets abused by his opponents, just watch his abysmal defending in gibraltar's goal (1-4) and that was roughly 2 years ago.. the rest i agree even though i hope mparkas starts instead of karnezis. skibbe said he didn't call up samaris because he has fallen out of benfica's rotation but karnezis doesn't start in napoli either. not saying he's a bad keeper however we need to take care of the future and karnezis is 33.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Bakakis is excluded, the genius bought in another CB instead... 110% with you on Lykogiannis, if we see Tzavellas and Tziolis. I also hope Barkas starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 6 hours ago, georgelaz said: skibbe too attached to torosidis and samaris So he calls out Samaris and says he will get called up when he gets regular playing Time and he will again he said he will only call up players that are playing regularly and playing well. So why the F*** do these pussy ass reporters not ask this goof if that was true what is his your reading for calling Tziolis?? Man i would hammer this guy with all of his contradictions if i was a reporter.. In saying that id be happy seeing Zeca and Kourbelis start at midfield.. I still would give the edge to fourtounis over Pelkas but a short leash if fortounis is not having a good game, I would also be happy with Laz and Donis on the wing.. If Tziolis starts im done watching.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Dean97 said: Donis, Pelkas, Fetfatzidis, Manthatis, Tsimikas, Androutsos, Manolas and so on. There are players that are fast. Some very fast like Donis. Skibbe should understand who he has in the talent pool. Tsimikas and Galanopoulos would have been called up if it weren't for u21 duty. Androutsos is a player that should be in this team but hasn't had many games under his belt. Alefantos once said his best position is the number 8 and that he would benefit the national team by playing him their. Why aren't the interviewers asking why Tziolis and Tzavellas got called up? Tzavellas is understandable because we have injuries their. But even then I'd rather someone else. They provide experience and I get that. But we all see how they sabotage our in game play. Karagounis and Katsouranis were older but still provided more. Even Maniatis is a better option. Tziolis is 32 and is playing like a 42 year old. His experience doesn't benefit us as much as Karagounis did or Katsouranis. You cannot compare Karagounis & Katsouranis to Tziolis and Tzavellas those were two great footballers who played instrumental roles in Greece winning the European Championship along with there many other accomplishments with the Ethniki and at there respective clubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ellada2004 said: You cannot compare Karagounis & Katsouranis to Tziolis and Tzavellas those were two great footballers who played instrumental roles in Greece winning the European Championship along with there many other accomplishments with the Ethniki and at there respective clubs. That is correct. But I suggest you re read what I said. I never said they were comparable. I meant it as in when Karagounis and Katsouranis played they were the older experienced players that contributed more and still had something to give. Tziolis has nothing of substance to give and Tzavellas is a has been. We might as well mark Sokratis, Torosidis and Karnezis as the experienced players and and give the younger more talented players a chance instead of Tziolis and Tzavellas. Edited September 5, 2018 by Dean97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 For those that want to know, Bakakis injury wasnt so bad so he should be fine for the first match. Skibbes words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Dean97 said: For those that want to know, Bakakis injury wasnt so bad so he should be fine for the first match. Skibbes words. so wait is bakakis in the squad or nah? could really use him on the right flank with lazaros they do some pretty nifty overlapping runs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellada2004 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Dean97 said: That is correct. But I suggest you re read what I said. I never said they were comparable. I meant it as in when Karagounis and Katsouranis played they were the older experienced players that contributed more and still had something to give. Tziolis has nothing of substance to give and Tzavellas is a has been. We might as well mark Sokratis, Torosidis and Karnezis as the experienced players and and give the younger more talented players a chance instead of Tziolis and Tzavellas. No worries, I see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausgreek Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Yo MC!!! Anyway enough rap, Skibbe wanted the midfield to have an element of experience and chose Pirlo-I mean Tziolara. I am sure Zeca could play that elder statesman role now, even though he has only played a handful of matches for the Pirates. The front third will be: Bakasetas Mykonos Lazaros. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J1078 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Donis or even Pelkas (who i prefer in the middle) should start over Bakasetas Edited September 7, 2018 by J1078 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 6 hours ago, ausgreek said: Yo MC!!! Anyway enough rap, Skibbe wanted the midfield to have an element of experience and chose Pirlo-I mean Tziolara. I am sure Zeca could play that elder statesman role now, even though he has only played a handful of matches for the Pirates. The front third will be: Bakasetas Mykonos Lazaros. your nicknames kill me. we should make a sub thread of our players spotted in mykonos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxou Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 and i just read the possible line up for tomorrow's game according to some sporting sites. karnezis torosidis sokratis manolas lykogiannis zeca bouchalakis donis fortounis mantalos mitroglou i almost felt unconsious seeing bouchalakis over kourmpelis and mantalos over lazaros. i would punch skibbe right away, my nerves hitting me. GOD FORBID HOW THE FCVK THIS GUY GETS PAID? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Well at least Tzavellas and Tziolis are not starting. Why is Mantalos picked over Pelkas and Lazaros? Anyway this lineup is better than what I had pictured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxou Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 lazaros and kourmpelis MUST start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Skibbe is a big fan of Mantalos, so i see him starting. I dont get how he dosent trust Kourbelis yet. Bouchalakis has only been in form the past 3 weeks. Kourbelis has been constant for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausgreek Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) Wonder why Skibbe wouldn't play Mantalos as a box 2 box, he is a big fan but only plays him on the wing. He would be a bigger attacking threat than either Zeca or Kourbelis as an 8, and has experience over Bouchalakis. Like the idea of the Bouch though, if Mantalo must be on the wing. Should play one of Zeca or Kourbelis as the no.6, Mantalos as the no.8 and Fortounis as the no.10 I can see Donis as the CF in the future, although not just yet. Edited September 8, 2018 by ausgreek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxou Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 mantalos as a winger is as much useless as having tziolis in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:24 PM, Boxou said: and i just read the possible line up for tomorrow's game according to some sporting sites. karnezis torosidis sokratis manolas lykogiannis zeca bouchalakis donis fortounis mantalos mitroglou i almost felt unconsious seeing bouchalakis over kourmpelis and mantalos over lazaros. i would punch skibbe right away, my nerves hitting me. GOD FORBID HOW THE FCVK THIS GUY GETS PAID? that's mad. the only changes I would make would be zeca for boucha and donis for mantalos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyp Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I would leave the back 7 the same as the first game. They didn’t give up a goal. Why change? They did their job. You can’t give up less goals than zero. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paokarag4 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Match topic for the Hungary game? Looks like Mitroglou is unlikely to play on Tuesday. Huge blow. Donis has to start at centre forward (assuming he's fit) Zeca and Bouchalakis good to go. http://www.novasports.gr/podosfairo/diethneis/nations-league/article/406591/ponaei-o-mitroglou-ponaei-i-ethniki/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean97 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 That's a huge blow. Now its a matter of which position would get the most out of Donis. On the wing I believe he would be more involved. We need him involved. I don't want him to get lost at striker. I would go with Koulouris upfront. We can then have Donis and Lazaros on the wings. I'm feeling as if Koulouris will score for us somehow. Id like Pelkas to also play. So if Donis goes upfront then Pelkas goes wide. Donis will be key in the next match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgelaz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, paokarag4 said: Match topic for the Hungary game? Looks like Mitroglou is unlikely to play on Tuesday. Huge blow. Donis has to start at centre forward (assuming he's fit) Zeca and Bouchalakis good to go. http://www.novasports.gr/podosfairo/diethneis/nations-league/article/406591/ponaei-o-mitroglou-ponaei-i-ethniki/ was this posted today? Last I checked Skibbz said he'd be good for the game? Think it might be a slight of hand? (I doubt it but you never know Skibbe did surprise me with Kourbelis, Lyko and Pelkas starting). I think he might be actually improving as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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