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Is it fair to say, at DM, it is out of K Paps, Tachtsidis or Lagos. At CM, it is out of Samaris, Maniatis or Kone. At AM, it is out of Ninis, Kone, or a Very outside chance of Fortounis. Mantalos injured? So, the midfield, in Serge's eyes would be K Paps, Samaris and Ninis. I would prefer Kyriak at CB, in place of Manolas.

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A Defensive midfielder should be good at tackling heading passing marking and reading the game. An Attacking mid should have great vision, passing shooting dribbling setting up play. A Central midfielder does all the of the above and must run a lot which you need to have amazing stamina. In my opinion you need to be strong off and on the ball in any position. I believe Samaris is the closest to having everything.  I also believe when he is inform Ninis is a perfect Attacking MId. 

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Can anyone tell me how good Petsos player really is, is he worthy to be in the Ethniki Samaris is not living up to it no matter what the reason is. When people talking about rebuilding do you mean bring in new players with no expirience because in my opinion players like Korovesis and Charisis are 2 players to look out for and also like to see a possible replacement for Torosidis. Samaras should be given another go aswell as Salpingidis. Katsouranis shoud have not been near the team after Euro 2012. He should have left like Lymberopoulos and Chalkias did. 

 

Also i like to see a new midfield with Maniatis leading it i know what people are going to say but if you look the things he did in the World Cup such as tackling running. I believe he had a better tournament of 2014 than 2012 (Euro) Kone and Lazaros should not be out of the picture but they should not start.

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He did play a big role but in my opinion Karagounis and Maniatis also played a big role when i said that Katsouranis should of played after 2012 was because i believe we need to of bring a younger replacement suitable for that role he played and give that player experience thats why were in the state we are at the moment. You could see how much Katsouranis has regressed in the past few years. I also believe Makos was not a good option i believe he is not a good player and ive wouldve  put Tziolis there instead. Also in 2014 i would have put Klaus instead of Gekas that was the biggest shock to me that Klaus was not picked.  

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I watched the AS Roma vs Real Madrid ICC match that was played in Melbourne recently, Torotsidis looked cumbersome, slow for left back. If he is considered an international today, it is not at LB. He would resemble a CB or DM really. He has the size. Any takers?

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Its true Torosidis hasntt got the pace he once had. Here is an example of why Maniatis is important to the midfield.

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I didn't realize what a beast performance Maniatis pulled against Ivory Coast.

 

Always been of a fan of him though. there's a reason he captains Olympiakos

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Its true Torosidis hasntt got the pace he once had. Here is an example of why Maniatis is important to the midfield.

 

ahh the memories you bring up

 

 

 

i was in the stadium that day, right next to the camera that caught the footage you posted

 

 

this was maniatis greatest game of his life, and although we all agree, the video ALSO brings out the truth, the video betrays him

 

he does not have control of the ball

 

look at his passes (even in his best performance), they are off

 

look at his first touch, the ball is too far away from his body, do you want your CM to rely on these skills (or lack of)?

 

what was that outside of the foot flick to the left back that was 5 yards away?  why lift the ball in the air? why not keep it on the ground, when the opponents are starting to press? it does not make sense that a pro footballer @ the WC finals does this......... NO EXCUSES

 

 

 

he was great during this match, i remember posting about how he surprised me,yet i pray to god maniatis never returns to the NT, 

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yes...still waiting for the maniatis video against CR.

 

 

i hope that photographic memory of yours is not the cause of nightmares

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Always been of a fan of him though. there's a reason he captains Olympiakos

 

 

the reason is : he was the only greek left on the squad at that time

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Does anyone know or have suggestions as to who of our current crop of players is similar to Karagounis similar to his playing style leadership and work ethic. I cant  think of one does anyone else know who is the next guy who will be the next Basinas , Katsouranis, Zagorakis, Tsiartas Karagounis? Id like to hear who everyone thinks it is or going to be because its starting to bug me we need a not 2 but a player like him because he was the main driving force to our success in my opinion. I know we have the likes of Samaris, Maniatis, Kone and so on but i dont think they have what it takes to lead a team from the middle. As shown in the past our midfielders are our driving force for both defence and attack. 

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Here's what I see for our NT. We don't know who our coach is. Is Markarian staying on or are we going to be looking for a new coach.

These are the players I feel shoiuld be called up each and every game from here on and into our World Cup qualifying campaign.

 

Karnezis

Kapino

 

Manolas

Sokratis 

KPaps

Moras 

Toro 

Holebas

Tzavellas

Bakakis

 

Fortounis (start him from here on in absolutely on FIRE!!!)

Samaris

Maniatis 

Mantalos

Ninis

Fefta

Tachtsidis

Kone

Pelkas (looks good but still has to mantain throughout reg. season)

 

Karelis 

Samaras (will sign somewhere very soon and we need him and his experience)

Mitro

 

Cap Klonaridis and Marcelinho both could be useful on the left side. Our two oldest players would be Moras 34 and Samaras 30. You need these

guys for the experience factor. Maybe Mavrias as well if he gets loaned out. We should go with a 5-3-2 or 4-3-3. We have the talent now the coach

has to get this team playing as a team again.

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Tzavellas should not get called ahead of Stafylidis. It would be a bizarre move.

 

Pelkas has looked very good but he's just getting started, let's see where he is after this campaign is over. It should be harder to get into the NT than a handful of EL qualifiers.

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Pash if you look in parentheses you will see that I too expect Pelkas to show us some more than a couple of EL qualifiers. As for Stafylidis over Tzavellas I have no problem with that only that Stafylidis is out of favour with his coach at Fullham and looking for a team.

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Fulham didn't pick up the option to buy him, last I heard he was still a Leverkusen player. It remains to be seen where he'll be loaned to next.

I saw the parenthesis and agree. There are a lot of people both on that list and off that could "get in his way," though.

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skondras, siovas, stafilidis, lazaros, klaus (form dependin)

 

I'd consider on that list as well

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The core players (MUST BE IN THE TEAM) Torosidis, Sokratis, Manolas, Kyriakos, Fetfatzidis, Karelis

 

Squad players ( These are players who should be in the team but be replaced often) Mitroglou, Ninis, Kone, Maniatis, Samaris, Tachtsidis, Samaras, Fortounis, Holebas, Stafylidis, Mantalos, Lazaros, Moras, Klaus, Karnezis, Kapino, Vellidis 

 

 

Future call ups  Skondras, Lagos, Bouchalakis, Petsos, Gianniotas, Giannakopoulos, Oikonomou, Pelkas, Mavrias, Bakakis, Kolovos, Kitsiou, DIamantakos, Mystakidis, Vellios.

 

Other mentions: Siovas, Aravidis, Salpingidis, Tziolis, Tzavellas, Tavlaridis....

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If Greece wasn't in shambles economically the players would be best to return to the patrida to get their legs back.

 

Mitroglou, Ninis, and others in the past are getting their mojo back doing this.

 

The Saudi league economically pays extremely generously, and perhaps he sees it as an opportunity to help his family.

 

Samaras might even go to PAOK? I'd be extremely surprised though. His father urged him from very young to never play in Greece.

Though, I can't say that playing for Celtic is better than the top 3 teams in the Greek league, but I digress. 

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the troika has won me over

 

i sent wife & kids down to help spur the greek economy

 

i will be going down in 2 weeks and am trying to get a flight back through the netherlands or germany. i'll try to catch a european game or two

 

 

Finland @ karaiskaki is on my radar 

 

will also try to get as much OSFP as i can

 

what about the NT friendly in August? None this year? historically, the players blood levels are still high in alcohol & nicotine, but i would have liked to attend none the less.... 

 

On another note, PSG was here in MTL last week and i could not believe how many of the players were walking around ste catherine's with tsigara dangling from their mouths ..... 

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Really Tantra. Who? Ibrahimovic? Wouldn't be surprised. Guy is a few fries short of a happy meal.

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I'm for evolution, not revolution.

 

If we update the squad by 4-5 players each euro & world cup we'll have a fresh new squad every 4 years. 

That's sufficient to adhere to overall class & let the lads get experience under their belts.

 

The 4-5 players that we need to phase in to the starting 11 I would say are

 

Samaris 

Tachtsidis

Karelis

Ninis

Fefta ?

 

Get these dudes to 40-50 caps.

 

Next euro we can create a new wave. 

 

it's too soon to tell now but diamantakos might be on the list since we'll need a striker.

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