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Hi everyone,

We have been hearing about metagrafes for the longest time... and when it comes with the Newspapers & Olympiakos, it's almost like a soap opera!

Anyway, Marinakis is going to get 3 more players. 2 Midfield players and a striker.

I've been hearing a lot about Makoun & Estrada amongst many others before (Gargano & Mountari, to name but a few.)

I haven't really seen either of these players but which one would suit well for us?

Apparently we are also getting Tziolis and Abdoun:

http://www.katimagiko.gr/article/25597/kok...-tzioles-abdoun

I'm not excited about Tziolis but he is a Greek player and we don't have too many playing right now.

Abdoun is a decent backup player, but couldn't they get someone else better?

Thoughts?

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Abdoun can't have any truth in it. I mean you have Javito & Fetfa that can play on the right and i'm sure there's someone else that can too, Fuster is it? Even Djebbour can. Why would you sign him then, i mean even Rommedahl was released because he wasn't needed so don't believe that one mate, that's just the Greek media in my opinion

Muntari is finished. He is Panetolikos level now, it would be a ridiculous signing. It's a bit like when AEL signed Geremi and everyone was getting excited. He's was way past it and was terrible, same applies here.

As for Estrada i'm going to assume you're talking about Marco (the Chillean international from Montpellier). He's ok from what i've seen. He has an excellent left foot (he can also play as a wing back i think) but he's a little small. I don't know whether he's the answer but he's def better than Muntari.

As for Makoun, what can be said about him? He was excellent at Lille and Lyon, but now he's just become abysmal for Aston Villa. When African players see such a rapid decline in their ability i always get suspicious because they are known to lie about their age. As young teenagers with footballing talent many are suspected of forging documents so they can earn moves to Europe. If you're 18 and playing as a 15 year old you might stand out with your physical ability and it gives you an advantage on trial. For those interested here's an article discussing it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/fe...age-old-problem

Various clubs now use bone scanes to judge the development of the bone according the age the players claim they are. When players like Makoun decline suddenly and dramatically i get suspicious. The worst example is Obafemi Martins. I mean at 16 he's at Inter and tearing it up, now he's supposedly 26, has lost all his pace, Rubin didn't even want to put him on the bench, he went to Birmingham on loand, didn't earn a permanent move and now his career is in limbo. Er... suspicious! Maybe Olympiakos can include that scan as part of the medical he will have to undergo? If not i wouldn't take the risk. If it is just a bad season he had though he'd be an excellent signing. He does get forward a little more then a holding midfielder should though so he'd have to play with Tziolis rather than with Ibagaza so i'm not sure it's what you'd want.

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i'd be so happy if the abdoun transfer goes through..

-------fejsa--ibagaza-

-abdoun--yeste--riera

-------mirallas-----

and we have so many options off the bench too, djebbour, fetfa and fuster

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Well today, they signed Makoun for one year and the option of buying his rights next year.

I believe, they also signed Abdoun as well.

-Mitroglou is playing with Atromitos for a year.

-Vasiloyiannis is going to Cyprus for a year to Apollon Lemesou.

-Leandro & Wanderson (2 yound Brazilian players) will be on loan to Doxa Dramas.

-Soubinio is going to OFI for a year.

-Niklitsiotis is going to some team (Helmont Sport-not sure what division) in Holland for a year, but if the team like him they can buy his rights next year.

Source is from here: http://www.gavros.gr/article/9485/sthn-kyp...-basilogiannhs/

*What remains to be seen is what will happen with Hurtado and if he leaves they will get Obraight (sorry not sure of spelling).

Galitsios may be let go as well.

Rommendahl is another one.

Not sure about Soiledis, Katsikoyiannis... and I don't know if I left anyone else out.

Marinakis also claimed that there will be another "BAM" signing, which I assume will be a "big name" striker... We will see.

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There will be another name coming to Olympiacos, but that only means that players will leave..

I see Rommedal out

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As for Makoun, what can be said about him? He was excellent at Lille and Lyon, but now he's just become abysmal for Aston Villa. When African players see such a rapid decline in their ability i always get suspicious because they are known to lie about their age. As young teenagers with footballing talent many are suspected of forging documents so they can earn moves to Europe. If you're 18 and playing as a 15 year old you might stand out with your physical ability and it gives you an advantage on trial. For those interested here's an article discussing it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/fe...age-old-problem

Various clubs now use bone scanes to judge the development of the bone according the age the players claim they are. When players like Makoun decline suddenly and dramatically i get suspicious. The worst example is Obafemi Martins. I mean at 16 he's at Inter and tearing it up, now he's supposedly 26, has lost all his pace, Rubin didn't even want to put him on the bench, he went to Birmingham on loand, didn't earn a permanent move and now his career is in limbo. Er... suspicious! Maybe Olympiakos can include that scan as part of the medical he will have to undergo? If not i wouldn't take the risk. If it is just a bad season he had though he'd be an excellent signing. He does get forward a little more then a holding midfielder should though so he'd have to play with Tziolis rather than with Ibagaza so i'm not sure it's what you'd want.

Ela re you make some very good points around the African player's ages.

I think it should have been very suspicious when Makoun turned up at Rendi to sign his contract with Oly with his 26 year old son!

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As for Makoun, what can be said about him? He was excellent at Lille and Lyon, but now he's just become abysmal for Aston Villa. When African players see such a rapid decline in their ability i always get suspicious because they are known to lie about their age. As young teenagers with footballing talent many are suspected of forging documents so they can earn moves to Europe. If you're 18 and playing as a 15 year old you might stand out with your physical ability and it gives you an advantage on trial. For those interested here's an article discussing it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/fe...age-old-problem

Various clubs now use bone scanes to judge the development of the bone according the age the players claim they are. When players like Makoun decline suddenly and dramatically i get suspicious. The worst example is Obafemi Martins. I mean at 16 he's at Inter and tearing it up, now he's supposedly 26, has lost all his pace, Rubin didn't even want to put him on the bench, he went to Birmingham on loand, didn't earn a permanent move and now his career is in limbo. Er... suspicious!  Maybe Olympiakos can include that scan as part of the medical he will have to undergo? If not i wouldn't take the risk. If it is just a bad season he had though he'd be an excellent signing. He does get forward a little more then a holding midfielder should though so he'd have to play with Tziolis rather than with Ibagaza so i'm not sure it's what you'd want.

Ela re you make some very good points around the African player's ages.

I think it should have been very suspicious when Makoun turned up at Rendi to sign his contract with Oly with his 26 year old son!

:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

I still think Makoun is an improvement over Maniatis, though.

By the way, Turkish press is crazily writing today that Albert Riera is a target for Galatasaray.

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@Akritis :LOL:

@GS, Maniatis is a right back mate, Makoun will replace Hurtado. I expect him to be an upgrade on Hurtado but to be honest Olympiakos have been drawn in a tough CL group. They should be looking to buy players that can make the difference there, Makoun no longer seems to be that player. I mean why else would they buy him? The Greek league is already in the bag. They are also being linked with Pablo Orbaiz (another holding midfielder! from Bilbao) Looks like they are planning on defending like mad away from home.

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By the way, Turkish press is crazily writing today that Albert Riera is a target for Galatasaray.

The Greek press is saying the same thing

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The French press is claiming that Bordeaux are keen on completing a deal for Fetfatzidis before midnight!

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apparently galatasaray reps are in athens to try and negotiate about riera.. their transfer period was delayed until the 5th i believe and aparently they are offering him a 1. something million more a year than his contract with oly and will be offering a sum above 3 million to the club...

lets see if they are just rumors...

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seemingly our football director and chairman's personal lawyer is in piraeus to sort the riera thing out.

nothing's been on the club's web site yet, but insider rumours and both turkish and greek press keep putting up figures for the transfer.

according to turkish sports web site sporx.com, galatasaray will announce sulley muntari and albert riera tomorrow.

for riera, olympiakos will be paid €4.5m and the spaniard will be given €3.1m a season for 3 years.

i think that will be a sad move for us after establishing such a good squad, to compliment it with a nomadic spaniard who seems to be worried wherever he goes, and do it by paying a massive lump of money..

fatih terim said he is a fan of riera for a long time, to chairman unal aysal, in a behind-closed-doors meeting.

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Just to follow up...

Nemeth, Galitsios, Soiledis and Leonardo have all been let go and they are now free agents.

They obvioulsy got rid of Hurtado and acquired Pablo Orbaiz on loan for a year with an option to purchase.

Lastly it looks like Riera will most likely go to Galatasaray for anywhere from $3 to 4.5 Million Euros and he will get a 4 year deal making 3.1-3.5 Million Euros a season. If/when he goes, the team will try and sign a Free Agent, however he will not be eligible to play in the Champion's League until January (I believe)...

Personally I don't think it's a good idea to get rid of a player, this late just before the Champion's League starts.

Also, I think they gave up on Nemeth too quickly... I'v seen Soiledis play some matches and he had looked pretty impressive but I'm assuming he is not a steady player... Don't know about that one... Thoughts?

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It's a done deal.

Galatasaray have notified the Stock Market that they have reached an agreement with Albert Riera.

Galatasaray will pay Olympiakos €3M, €2M of which is paid the day the player signs the deal, and the remaining €1M will be paid in 2 installments of €500k in January 2012 and July 2012.

Albert Riera is going to sign a 3+1 year contract, getting €2.7M in his first season, €2.9M in his second, €2.9M in his third and €3M in his additional year if his contract is extended.

Riera's contract will be extended by default if he plays 20 league games in his third season. He will also get €7,5k per game for his full 90 minutes.

Official Announcement

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It's a done deal.

Galatasaray have notified the Stock Market that they have reached an agreement with Albert Riera.

Galatasaray will pay Olympiakos €3M, €2M of which is paid the day the player signs the deal, and the remaining €1M will be paid in 2 installments of €500k in January 2012 and July 2012.

Albert Riera is going to sign a 3+1 year contract, getting €2.7M in his first season, €2.9M in his second, €2.9M in his third and €3M in his additional year if his contract is extended.

Riera's contract will be extended by default if he plays 20 league games in his third season. He will also get €7,5k per game for his full 90 minutes.

Official Announcement

It was comming as he didn't perform on the field...

Good Luck to him

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Yes but Valverde didn't want him to leave, so clearly the manager was happy with his performances.

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