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Panionios is spewing as they have no power in this situation plus there is plenty of talk they had agreed for him to go to Oly but he refused to go and wanted AEK, another reason why they dropped him over night, they bombed their chances big time with this action they took.

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They're only themselves. He'll leave for free in January. Panionio showing their true gaurocolors as always

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Would he have even played there or be considered because lets be honest he is a talent and if he was to go there he would most likely be loaned out as they did to the other young Greeks they signed, atleast with us he is guaranteed game time and most likely a starting spot. Now if we can get Vellios we are on a good path, but will be hard as many are after him.

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Yeah I read that also that's why I say others are after him also, which is normal as he had a good season in an average side. Good luck to whoever gets him, if you guys get him you think he will start over Berg or would he play 2 upfront?

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I agree on Berg he must start but with Euros coming up he will hardly have time off so you can kind of expect him to start slow next season, but if that above can click then you are in good shape up front

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We got Djebbour and Pekhart, oh and the super star Christhanus lol but Vellios is what we need, too many times we create a heap of chances and aren't clinical, Aravidis was a good example when he played up top, Pekhart hasn't had much effect but I just don't think he is what we need, Djebbour has picked it up lately but again his age is getting the better of him and his attitude stinks sometimes, this is why I would do all I can to get Vellios, that's IF they haven't scouted anyone from elsewhere....

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A video I made for Bakasetas, hope you guys like it.

 

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The Panathinaikos game from the other day got me thinking. The reality is that we need to sign many players, whether they are starters, or quality depth options. We are hopefully going to have three competitions next year, so we need players.

1. Goalkeeper: Baroja's loan deal should not be made permanant. He is not better than Anestis, and he's older, he's not worth spending money. We need to bring in a top quality keeper that's experienced enough to teach Anestis a few things as well as be our number goalie. Ideally, we could get Karnezis, but he's probably way too expensive for us.

2. Centerback: I like Kolovetsios a lot, and I think he can be a starter for us for many years to come, but for right now he can not be our top guy. He needs a stud centerback next to him to make things easier, he plays pretty well with Arzo next to him, just imagine how he'd do with a Bruno Alves type signing next to him.

We also need another centerback for depth because Labropoulos and Tzanetopoulos aren't that good. I would sign a younger guy around the same quality as Kolovetsios. Risvanis is a good option, but Neos Panionios will never sell him to us.

3. Left back: Soiledis is dog s%$#!, Didac is good but we can't count on him to play every single game. I would get Stafylifis maybe on loan, he does everything Soiledis does but 10x better. With Didac and Stafylidis, the options for the left back position will be just as strong as our right backs.

4. Defensive midfielders: Simoes and Johanson are tanks, but they need backups. Cordero gets hurt way too often to count on so we should get rid off him. Anakoglou played a lot of games with Veria on loan so hopefully he improved a bit to have a spot. We need two more players in this spot, even if Anakoglou has really improved. I would try to bring back Zuculini on loan and sign someone like Kourbelis.

5. Wingers: We need two more that are just as good, if not better than Barbosa. Den pame pouthena me Aravidi sta akra, I love him but he sucks on the wing. Platellas can be a decent 4th option if he learns to pass the ball.

6. Attacking Midfielder: With Mantalos, Bakasetas, and Vargas we should be good here. Hopefully we sign Bakasetas to come this summer, and not January. I would sell Buononotte or even Vargas, their stats are heavily inflated compared to their real performances, so hopefully we can rip off some team and get a decent amount of cash.

7. Striker: Vellios is a must. Keep Djebour, Aravidis, and Pekhart as well for depth. Add in Vellios and we are in a good spot with those 4, plus Bakasetas who can play up top. If Melissanidis wants he can sign Vellios right now but he's waiting for the new coach, he was ready to sign him in January but Poyet said that he wasn't worth it.

I've called for 9 players to be signed, if we bring in 9 quality players and cut the deadwood like Baroja, Soiledis, Chrisantus, Cordero, Arzo, Buononotte we should be ready to have a decent European run, and cut the gap between us and Olympiakos. This will cost some money, but if we are serious about improving then we should be able to spend it, and at least half of these signings can be Greek players which is always a good thing.

What do you all think?

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Original 21 the only thing I would change maybe is signing 2 starting cb. Kolovetsios is good but is far too inconsistent. In Europe I don't know if he could hack the level and he isn't actually that young too, he should start to mature now, look at sokrati, he was ready at the age on 19. I really like him but he is inconsistent and that would cost us in europe. Other than that I do agree with your suggestions.

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@george21 hahah I was just showing my friend that video during this lunch what a coincidence

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Original don't disagree with what you have above I think its right on the money.

 

For me I would go for 2 CB with 1 being an experienced one to guide Kolovetsios around and another as back up.

 

I would also go get a winger because as you said we got Barbosa, Aravidis, Vargas and Platellas, we need more talent out there, who knows they may even put Bakasetas out wide as I cant see him taking Mandalos spot.

 

Lastly and as we all know we need a striker ASAP and one with a killer instinct, I would take Vellios in a heart beat the guy was scoring goals for fun in an average side last season, imagine what he could do with us especially since we create so many chances but lack the finishing touch. Djebbour is getting on, Pekhart is a good weapon off the bench, Brecevic who knows what's going on there  and as for Maki, well the less said the better lol....

 

But before we worry about which players to bring in we need to get a coach, no use in getting players if they don't suit the coaches style.

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I was rewatching highlights from the Kalithea- AEK game and I must say, I was pretty impressed with Chrisantus. I hope that was just a glimpse of the potential this guy has. I liked how composed he was and how well he executed the goal, but at the same time his movements off the ball were good too. He seems to have composure when the ball is at his feet and thats something evident in the way he gave Douni the assist for a possible second goal. Overall if he loses the gut and is slowly worked into the starting 11 he can do great things. Being fair though, it has taken longer than it should for him to get into starting 11 shape and he will be a fool if he misses his chance to shine in the playoffs.

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I was just saying on the PAO forum if they want back up for Simeos and Johanssen go get Kourbelis, more than capable as cover and a quality player who can play CB also

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Given the way Ketsbaia likes to play, I think we've seen the last of Vargas, Buononotte, and Cordero. They don't fit his style of tough play.

Also, looks like Baroja is gone. Barojas from Atromitos, and Loria that used to play for OFI are the two options we are trying to get to replace him. Barkas is a stud, he will be the best goalkeeper in Greece in a few years, we need to sign him ASAP.

Ketsbaia also likes Vellios for striker position which would be great for us if we sign him. Carlos Carlao, a Brazilian CB from APOEL is on his list, as is Milan Duric, a 2 meter tall Bosnian striker that scored 8 goals for Cesena in Serie B this year.

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Milan Djiric scored 2 today for Bosnia vs Japan. His record speaks for itself, shite. 20 goals in 130+ appearances for Cesena, 8 goals is the highest tally in a season in his career.

Im glad Baroja is going, he was good but nothing special and I feel Anestis is better.

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There was an article that said 5 new faces will be coming in which if true would be a good thing, I just hope those 5 players cover where we lack, a GK, CB, Winger and a ST are a MUST!!! I would even go for 2 CB or 2 Wingers just so we have that depth...

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Chrisantus and Baroja are gone. Arzo, Soiledis, Buononotte, and Cordero hopefully are next. I wouldn't be surprised if Vargas, and Djebour left too.

Loria is close to being signed for the Goalkeeper spot, he's an upgrade over both Anestis and Baroja, but he's not good enough IMO for a team trying to qualify for the Europa league group stages.

At this point if we are only going to sign average players that won't get us into Europe, we might as well sign young Greek players that are decent but have a lot more potential. My hope for this offseason if they weren't going to sign paixtarades was to sign:

?Barkas to split time with Anestis.

?Risvanis to backup Kolovetsios, and play about 15-20 games in all competitions.

?A good experienced centerback to teach Kolovetsios and Risvanis.

? Kourbelis and Siopis to backup our defensive midfielders.

? Stafylidis on loan with an option to buy to share the spot with Didac.

?Bakasetas who is signed already.

?Vellios to be our number one striker.

?A winger just as good as Barbosa.

We would have built our team for the next decade, improved our team for the upcoming season, but it would have cost a ton to sign these guys. Signing a few of them will help, I'm still holding out hope for Vellios.

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And all of a sudden we've reached a deal with Atromitos to sign Barkas, Let's see what happens in the end, I'm not sure what we will do with Loria, Anestis, and Barkas. Unless they have Loria on "stand by" just in case we don't get Barkas.

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700k and a percentage of the next sale to Atromitos for Barkas, just when I doubt him, Melissanidis spends the cash, I hope he continues and brings in Vellios.

Loria's deal is on hold and it depends on Barkas, if Barkas is willing to stay on loan at Atromitos for a year then we will sign Loria. If he wants to come right away then Loria won't be signed. We are off to a much better start this offseason than last year, assuming we do sign Barkas of course.

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It wouldn't cost too much money to sign those players. Panionios usually sells for 400k, vellios would probably be the most expensive player tbh.

After the Bakasetas or deal Panionios won't be selling us any players unless we pay the full release clause on their contracts. Barkas himself cost us 700k, the transfer values of Greek players is very inflated right now. Edited by Original 21

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Some good options for keeper now with these 2 guys, good way to start the new season, Anestis and Baroja can be good on their day but they can also have a master degree in stupidity at times also, one will leave surely.

 

Lets see who we go for next we need an experienced CB first then worry about the rest.

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