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The ethniki has an early test in Zagreb after a disappointing draw at home to Georgia. This is the hardest game on the docket for our boys.

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Your pessimism is understandable, after a bad game, but I'm curious to see Santos's ability to make changes in the starting lineup. This was imo, one of Otto's biggest weaknesses.

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Any team news on Croatia? Modric is supposedly back but any news on what system/formation they've been trying in training and stuff?

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we will not lose this game today....i see a tie or even a win.....

i saw some positive things in the georgia game...it was an overall poor performance, but i am banking on two things:

1. santos recognizing the mistakes and making the appropriate chnges;

2. the team becoming more comfy with the new system;l

if these things occur, then we will win the game....thats my caveat....

when you go from a man to man marking team to a zone, and you go from a "play not to lose to a play to win mentality" its gonna take some time to believe and execute that that style well enough where it translates into results;

this is the problem otto had all the time - do i develop the youth and risk not qualifying or do I qualify (or try to qualify) with seasoned veterans at the expense of developing the youth?

most of us were bitchin and moaning about "new style, new style, new style" blah bla blah...welll here it is...dont do the typical greek thing and throw the coach and the team under the bus after just one game....

give it a chance to develop...maybe it doesn't but the point is you don't approach any type of development project (whether its a business, a building, a soccer team) with a hit and run mentality - precisely the one we all claim hurts the progress of greek soccer - both home and abroad......

Edited by mangas21

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Zagreb will be jumping

croatia 3 v greece 0

It will take a while for santos implant his vision our nt is still in ditox from otto

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"detox"........thats funny, and a very well said !!!!!

the problem is santos said he wants to adopt a "Spain" type system....i think we dont have the horses to play like spain...i believe more that an Italian type system that still focuses on defense yet counters better with a little more ability to go forward even when we are tied, is a better approach for the skills that i see coming out of greece....

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CROATIA

12 Runje(GK)

2 Strnic

3 Simunic

5 Corluka

6 Pranjic

8 Vukojevic

10 Modric

11 Srna(Captain)

18 Olic

19 Kranjcar

21 Petric

BENCH

1 Pletikosa(GK)

7 Rakitic

9 Eduardo

13 Schildenfeld

16 Dujmovic

17 Mandzukic

20 Jelavic

Manager: Slaven Bilic(CRO)

GREECE

13 Sifakis(GK)

6 Tziolis

7 Samaras

8 Papadopoulos

10 Karagounis(Captain)

11 Vyntra

14 Salpingidis

15 Torosidis

19 Papastathopoulos

20 Tzavelas

21 Katsouranis

BENCH

1 Tzorvas(GK)

2 Seitaridis

5 Kone

9 Mitroglou

16 Kafes

17 Gkekas

18 Ninis

Manager: Fernando Santos(POR)

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Lots of booing and whistling when Karagounis' name fell. :unsure:

GO GREECE ! ! ! :gr: :gr: :gr:

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Our boys look a bit lazy and Croatia looks like they are on fire...

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Ball is pinned in our own end

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Torosidis with a useless dive. Nice play from us though.

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Torosidis the yellow for diving

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Good play but Samaras misses the far post.

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Samaras with the first chance of the game, shoots, out.

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