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  1. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    In a normal country PAOK would get punished, yes. However, in a normal country we would have some good referees to begin with and not those clowns who are surrounded by AEK officials and players for 5 minutes and don't do anything about it like sending them off the field. In a normal country the guys from this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Greek_football_scandal, especially Marinakis to name just one, would have faced a very high punishment, but we all know that Marinakis et al. got away with it. Moreover, since this is Greece, I am baffled as to why you are so confident about PAOK getting punished. You are forgeting how corrupt Greece actually is. It might turn out that Savvidis gets punished as an individual with a heavy monetary fine (in order to tell UEFA/FIFA that the situation has been dealt with) while AEK loses the game on paper for refusing to restart the game. Also do not forget how badly written the Greek law is, everything is possible in this case. It is undeniable that Savvidis has good relations with SYRIZA and the police as well as with the president of the EPO. Not to mention the fact that Greece is a weak country facing a deep economical crisis for years now. I wouldn't be too sure that Greece actually screws someone who invests millions of Euro in this corrupt sh**hole. Savvidis investments (in football as well as in other sectors) are worth millions of taxpayer money, he is a goldmine for the bankrupt Greek economy. Oh and since I heard from AEKtzides that the FIFA will come to aide them. Are we talking about the same FIFA that decided to have the world championship in Russia and Qatar? The FIFA I know has even more corruption scandals going on than Olympiakos, and AEK expects them for help? I am not convinced that they can expect some real help here, but we shall see. Listen to what Raptopoulos says if you want a realistic view about the μπουρδέλο Greece actually is: Now is the time we will truely see if Savvidis is actually a χαλίφης. Isn't it ironic? Those who accused Savvidis of being a χαλίφης for months now must fear that their own accusations are not actually true. Haha I like that. Oh and since no one talked about the football we saw, here are a few words: The two best teams in Greece played against each other, and instead of having an interesting match with box to box offensives, all we saw were two mediocre teams who were afraid to make a mistake. Honestly, Lucescu showed in this particular game that he is everything but a genius, waiting far too long to throw Biseswar in, while his Limnios experiment has not worked out and he wasted a complete half-time for this. Seriously, we would have not this discussion right now if Biseswar had started at the beginning of the second half since he alone improved PAOK's offensive massively. But I guess I should switch to the Premier League, La Liga or the Bundesliga to see some real football. Greece is only interesting if you like to see chaos and anarchy, mixed with screw ups and corruption from all sides, oh and don't forget the gruesome football. Greek football really is a sh**show.
  2. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    So to sum it up: The referee first awarded the goal to PAOK, then AEK put pressure on the linesman and on the referee for 5 minutes. Then they decided first to not give the goal, but somehow they changed their minds while at the same time Savvidis approached, saying to his own team to leave, which the PAOK players refused to do. Michel also said to Kominis that "he is done". After that Savvidis left while there was again some discussion and then AEK left claiming that they are afraid of Savvidis. Well, okay then. If you ask me, all three sides made a mess out of this game and should get punished for that. This has nothing to do with football anymore. From all sides just embarrassment. "No, it was offside!" "No, it was a regular goal!" "But Savvidis had a weapon!" "But he didn't use it!" "AEK left because we would have won 1-0!" "Savvidis put pressure on the referee so that's why Kominis gave PAOK the goal!" It's just an "if I cannot win then you should not either"-mentality. The whole thing has become so messed up and I do not like anything of this. It just shows how toxic Greek society is and I really wonder why I should waste my time and follow the Greek Soupa League any longer. It's so exhausting. Miserable football mixed with fan violence and referees who act like amateurs along with clubs who are trying everything to win and derbies which are decided at the courts. Elladistan at its best. Honestly, Greece will never stop to be a Zougla. This country is ultimately lost.
  3. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    No, AEK did not lose on paper 1-0. According to what I heard on ERT Kominis finally decided to award the goal to PAOK and because of this AEK refused to end the game, claming that Savvidis is responsible for this and threatened the referee. Now everything will depend on what the match report actually states. If it is favoring PAOK then AEK will lose on paper 3-0 and 3 points will be deducted from AEK. If it is favoring AEK then PAOK will get a 3 point deduction and AEK wins on paper 3-0. If it does not favor anyone, both clubs will be punished because the game could not end. Welcome to Elladistan.
  4. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    You still have not shown me the paragraph.
  5. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    I do not know. We will see what will happen. I cannot believe that Savvidis is the new Marinakis. The scenario that PAOK wins on paper and you probably lose the championship while PAOK does not get punished for anything... I cannot imagine so much αλητεία coming from Savvidis.
  6. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    One can only guess why Kominis decided to award the goal to PAOK. But regardless, I do not like anything of this. This is a whole new level of embarrassment for Greek football. Reminds me a bit of the cup final between Olympiakos and Tripolis. Has Savvidis really become today the new Marinakis? I did not expect that to happen.
  7. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    Quote the paragraph you are refereing to, article 19 has a lot of paragraphs.
  8. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    And btw JVC, unlike you, I am able to show you some laws that are actually refering to a possible punishment for both teams. Με αφαίρεση δέκα (10) βαθμών και χρηματική ποινή από 8.000,00 έως 40.000,00 Ευρώ για τις ΠΑΕ και έως δύο χιλιάδες (2.000) ευρώ για τα σωματεία, από την ομάδα που θα αποχωρήσει από τον αγώνα μετά την έναρξή του. Σε αυτή την περίπτωση η υπαίτια ομάδα δεν δικαιούται μερίδιο από τις εισπράξεις του αγώνα, το οποίο περιέρχεται στη διοργανώτρια. http://www.epo.gr/media/files/KATASTATIKO_KANONISMOI/2017_2018/KAP_July_2017_new.pdf Although I do not think they have the guts to deduct 10 point from both clubs.
  9. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    Yes, that is why I demanded 10 points deducted from PAOK and AEK for the shitshow today. I do not care about Greek football anymore, the things that happened today are embarrassing. From both sides.
  10. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    Of course you are biased. Relegation for what? Based on which law? You can demand relegation for PAOK if Savvidis actually used that gun on a referee, not because he had a gun at his back. This is called framing and nothing else. The same was done by Olympiakos fans with the scooter in Toumpa in order to "prove" how bad PAOK is. Has not worked at the courts.
  11. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    Why don't you wait what the match report actually says? There are a lot of things unclear now. If you ask me, both clubs are probably going to be punished. But that will depend mostly on the match report.
  12. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    No, that's only what you wish because you are obviously biased towards PAOK.
  13. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    Well, it is not proven if he threatend someone. This is just what AEK claims, so yes, at the moment PAE AEK is trying to frame Savvidis as a terrorist to win the match at the courts. PAE PAOK claims that AEK did not want to play because the referee finally decided to give the goal to PAOK. So yeah, welcome to the shitshow. If you ask me both should be punished with a 10 point deduction for this θέατρο. Make Olympiakos champions again haha.
  14. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    Well, I heard it from ERT. Kominis finally decided to give PAOK the goal and AEK refused to go out and play again because of this decision. Now they are trying to frame Savvidis as a "terrorist" in order to win the match at the courts. So basically we will have a derby at the courts again. Πω ρε τη μπουρδελλο εχουμε γινει.
  15. SL–R25: PAOK - AEK (11 Mar 18, 19:30 EET)

    I am hearing right now that AEK refused to come out because the referee finally decided to give the goal to PAOK. AEK is trying to put the blame on Savvidis claiming that they were afraid of him. As we already have experienced with Olympiakos all will depend on what Kominis is going to write into the match report. Wow. I did not expect this. What the hell. So we have actually a chance to win this on paper with 3-0? Hahaha Athens is going to hate us forever if this really happens. But since Greece is indeed a Zougla I do not care about this anymore. Regardless of what is going to happen now.