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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    To be fair I think that there could be a significant amount of fans that jumped ship to other teams. I am one of them too. But I just don't watch TV, so there's no viewership. Hopefully, Olympiakos don't abandon watching their own team because they're gonna be butthurt about being 2nd/3rd for the next few years. In an ideal world that would be a solution but since we don't really live in an ideal world, and Nova told everyone to negotiate their own deal (which could backfire for them once teams actually get a hang of it). A fairer redistribution model, where the league would negotiate as one, where smaller teams would get a little bit more money would be great if the league didn't get peanuts already. Being able to negotiate your own deals is a blessing in disguise, these small teams could use the opportunity to talk to a competitor to get a better deal, same with the bigger teams. The world doesn't revolve around Nova, there are alternatives even a separate online streaming deal with Facebook is an option. Of course, it would take some negotiating skills and a can-do-attitude but its doable, and a little bit of thinking outside of the box too, which might be hard for some stuck in the past teams. Currently its like this: Aek (5.7 million) (NOVA) Paok (5.5 million) (NOVA) Olympiakos (5.5 million) (NOVA) Panathinaikos (4.2 million) (ERT) Aris (2 million) (ERT) Atromitos (1.9 million) (ERT) Xanthi (1.65 million) (ERT) Panetolikos (1.65 million) (ERT) Apollon Smyrnis (1.45 million) (ERT) Lamia (1.45 million) (ERT) Missing 6 teams. So if someone wants they can complete the list. Apparently, there's some bonus involved too? Got to feel a little bad for Atromitos, they deserve better. Also I've been wondering if there's actually something stopping from Paok signing some sort of deal with Open TV, in order to pump millions into Paok? It could be away to get around financial fair play. Also all revenue from CL and match transmission would go directly into Paok, there would be no middle man (Nova) trying to profit off them.
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    Not to mention that Just because someone used to Panathinaikos doesn't mean they still are. Supporting a club is not a sentence for life, and fans can jump ship, especially with everything that happened under Alazoufos (I mean the guy made his Panathinaikos fans paint Leoforos for free). Supporting a club is very much like dating a girl, if shizt doesn't go well, you may always dump her for something better. The number of Panathinaikos fans used to be high, but now it is probably lower.
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    Ναι φυσικά! Μου έλειψαν η δήλωσις του Σάββα 🤣😂
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    Can you send the link to study plz
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    I don't think it was @DunfermlineAthleticPaok who constantly tried to derail the thread.
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    SL–R20: PAOK - Olympiakos (10-Feb-19, 19:30 EET)

    It would actually be very interesting to hear where that money goes to... It could be put into good use, like renovating local public pitches around Greece but it probably goes into some fat bastards fat pocket.
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    Yeah, in the Northen Suburbs. Yeah, Aek really really did fall apart in the second half I'm not a fan of bringing new coaches, and team members when the season is in play. It takes a few weeks for a team to get used to a new team philosophy, tactics etc, which might cause some issues during gamedays whilst the team adjusts.
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    From Athens, support Paok. However I like watching a good game of football, and I just don't want to see Olympiakos go on a "suspect" league winning streak anymore. Edit: 3-1 Olympiakos- Aek. It is still a fair score. It is literally "defence F*** ups" the game. Long ball (as no one can really string a few passes together), two Aeks defenders one, Olympiakos attacker, he somehow got the ball, passed the ball to an unmarked player in Aeks territory and took a shot, which the goalkeeper blocked unsuccessfully. 4-1 Olympiakos - Aek : Maybe Marinakis is not going to stupidly sell off half the team this year in Anger; doing more damage the good.
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    2-1 Olympiakos admittingly deserved this. Aeks defence went on holidays in the middle of the match. It's not like Fortounis dribbled or anything, he literally runs in a straight line and took a shot. I guess that's the only way to score if both teams are unable to string a series of passes.
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    But the tickets do cost 10-20 euros here? And yeah if that's what I'm saying if you can't beat the stream-online-for-free -culture you might as well capitulate on it, sell the rights to Facebook or stream it by yourself and cash in the add revenue. Both can probably earn any team in Greece more then what Nova is currently offering. Or you can still sell your rights to Nova but make it clear that its only for TV streaming, and internet streaming is a completely separate thing. I think it would even be beneficial for some teams to negotiate their own deals rather then to negotiate them as a group.
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    This thread went downhill, we had an awesome intellectual conversation and then some guy came along and turned it into a freaking jungle. Where the mods?
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    2018-2019 Europa League

    Hopefully this goes well..
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    We all know that when it comes to European matches most Greeks don't care who is playing and that they'll support any Greek team like it is their national team. Granted we take the piss out of the other team's European performance and use it in our "local" arguments but at the end of the day, we all support each other regardless of whos playing. It's probably similar everywhere. I reckon English fans will support their local team in CL, Italians the same etc. What each team can do locally, is hope to grow their fanbase domestically. That would take clever marketing etc and favourable results. It is a long process, but they should all at least be able to pull fans from their local area. If they downright suck, then nothing can really help them. Except for some sort of goverment plan. I reckon if the government is going to be involved it should be involved properly (not by funding, but by enforcing a set of laws and action plan). But whenever the government tries to help we have someone complaining, because that upsets the balance of power somewhere, and this is why we are a stuck in today's standstill. We have teams complaining because they will be relegated, and they all want to be in 1st league even though that is one of the big factors causing the financial troubles in the first place. We also have teams trying to manipulate the league , inorder to potentially have an easier time (aka Aek's very stupid league plan), and we have teams were owners just want to cash out asap, instead of thinking of the long term bigger profits. We also have owners who know nothing about running a club, bringing their own club into to the ground, and telling fairytales to their fans and being to proud to admit that they failed and let someone else take over the club (like Alizoufos).
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    I thought Poland per-capita wealth is significantly lower than Greece? Portugals is at just slightly higher then Greece?
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    If you are going to have a playoff then everyone should participate. Wouldn't mind having Olympiakos join in the playoffs a few years ago when everyone else was playing playoffs. They definitely didn't deserve the titles but yeah playoffs do kinda suck. In an odd number teams scenario, one team would have to have a break, every now and then. Not ideal, but it wouldn't be a bad thing either. 12 teams and 44 match days is a lot, 14 teams and 48 match days, dam! That would be overkill. It wouldn't work with 14 teams for sure. You'd want to keep the number of teams lower so that the league would have to be played out between the top teams and not be dependent on the results against the "filler content" teams. Take Olympiakos now, they haven't won a single game against the bigger teams, and yet there really high because they have been somewhat steady against the "filler content" teams. I reckon that in the 10 league team Olympiakos would have been even lower.
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