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  1. Suggested Call Ups, Starting 11

    I dont get the whole fuss about our CBs being played as 6. I mena you re all crying that we need someone creative and moreup going and cry when Tziolis / Samaris / Maniatis are the combo, and suddently, you remember that our CBs can play defensive mid as well and you are begging to see them there. It's a no. With the defense like ours and Zeca making sure one player can't do much (De Bruyne and Pjanic some examples), and being a literally hero in the Kobenhavn team, he is a no brainer to start as the main 6. Samaris can now go forward and be a box to box since he can pass well and press. Noone else is allowed to steal a spot from them. Our defence was our main attribute since Otto Rehagel. Decent teams that go for the win against us ALWAYS get punished. Romania 2014? Ivory Coast 2014? Belgium 2017? Ukraine 2010? Croatia 2012? We re gonna score Cyprus a couple of goals to call it a day and see who we get in the play offs. I expect Bosnia to draw Belgium to be fair. As for the call ups. From the previous 4-5 call ups, Id want Oikonomou , Diamantakos , Vellios(yeah even me his last supporter doesnt think he deserves a spot anymore)out and Siovas, Lazaros, Pelkas in.
  2. Suggested Call Ups, Starting 11

    all 4 teams are currently in an era with lots of Greek players who find playtime Aek pillars like experienced Mantalos, Christodoulopoulos and the youth of Galanopoulos, Tzanetopoulos , Bakakis(considering he is kinda "new" after his big injury absence) Paok has lots of subs that are usually used as subs. Pelkas, Limnios and Koulouris. All 3 of them look promising. Off loaned players Charisis and Kitsiou at Belgium also having the season of their lives. Olympiakos just sold Retsos and Manthatis,Androutsos,Siopis who have been offloaned seem to have something. Vouros was loaned to C.L. Apoel and Vergos in a Hungarian A-League team. Tsimikas loaned to WillemII seems kinda interesting. Panathinaikos has some Greeks who had playtime from the beginning of hte season like Chatzigiovanis, Kolovetsios , Kourbelis but im not sure if the first two are gonna keep seeing playtime with the new additions. Overall I think our possible talents are being utilized better than 2-3 years ago. Usually you d see Olympiakos Loan players to Levadiakos and Panionios at best , who would both be fighting for Relegation, while right now we have players in Belgium Liga, Apoel , Eredivisie. Aek stepping up and having high chances to qualify from the Group of Europa with a core of Greek players gives joy. Overall future seems good. My current line up against Cyprus would be a 3-5-2 and you can all hate me as much as you want. Karnezis Manolas - Sokratis - Kyriakos Torosidis - Samaris - Zeca - Stafylidis Fortounis Mitroglou - Donis This does it for me. Subs Mantalos in for Fortounis Christodoulopoulos in for Donis , or the vise versa. Maybe Donis comming late when opponent defence is tired works better. Tzavellas in for Stafylidis if score allows it. A more defensiveminded back who can tighten the defence more.
  3. Tasos Donis - OGC Nice ◄ Juventus

    We gotta update the title of this thread to say future savior of NT.
  4. Suggested Call Ups, Starting 11

    Look man no offense but Id rather have Christodoulopoulos and Gianniotas as wingers than Fetfatzidis. Reason?I got two a) your link has a video. Look at that goal. Do you believe the K15 of Olympiakos concedes this goal? Scrappy lucky goal. b) The defences of Saudi Arabia are the ones that make Tziolis look like a capitano. Suddently someone who plays for Saudi Arabia is good, but the other one is "taking a spot" in the Greek National team. Gianniotas plays in Segunda liga this season but last season was a key success to APOEL having an awesome European run for their standarts. Everyone loved him and im pretty sure that Olympiakos just had him way too overpriced for a team like APOEL to be able to buy him. He scored a goal last match 16september. He got subbed in at 77, he scored at 80. Lazaros on the other hand seems to have stepped up his game. Im only interested on the big games of GSL -vs pao panathinaikos olympiakos panionios(these two seasons is playing a better and more appealing footy than anyone)- but he was also the main reason why they progressed to uefa Europa League and won Rijeca away, much easier than Olympiakos did. Fetfatzidis really is playing amateur tier football and the goal that you posted is just proof of this.
  5. Cyprus vs. Greece ( 7 October 2017, GSP Stadium, Nicosia )

    Wanna try reverse thinking? Gilli is obviously no reporter so he doesn't have in-field permission. He is not a member of our federation, player ,staff or headstaff. He is not a member of your federation, just a friend of Bazdarevic. So, he can be not counted anything less than a fan. If there were fans inside the playground of your stadium hitting our players, doesn't this incident justify a couple of behind-closed-doors matches? Honestly I dont know what the definition of formality and rules is in Bosnia, but UEFA does not allow anyone in the field who should not be there. The "I am a friend of the coach" honestly doesn't work in a no-pub league match to get past security. This guy is there , either he is a member of your federation (being either paid from the Federation or Bazdarevic himself) or he is a fan. Pick what suits you more, but your federation has even the minimum responsibility for what happened, considering that they left him be in there.
  6. Cyprus vs. Greece ( 7 October 2017, GSP Stadium, Nicosia )

    Eh. What do you expect him to say? Put the FA under the pressure of a possible bigger punishment? Nevermind if you re not interested to actually read what im saying just let it go.
  7. Cyprus vs. Greece ( 7 October 2017, GSP Stadium, Nicosia )

    Clueless poster. https://www.transfermarkt.com/stephane-gilli/profil/trainer/5750 Gilli is part of your Federation and part of Bazdarevic coaching team. Period. Most if not all coaches (example Bazdarevic) have a coaching team - coaching stuff that follows them wherever they go. Most of the assistant coaches and coaching stuff is appointed from the head coach himself. And most of them are also paid from the head coach's salary. Their money from the team include a portion that goes to the coaching stuff. This is exactly the case here. This Gilli dude follows Bazdarevic everywhere, and since Bazdarevic signed with Bosnia, although he is not paid directly from your Federation, he is under it. Clueless as f*ck bro.
  8. Suggested Call Ups, Starting 11

    All the Greeks currently worthy of a call up in my opinion: Goalkeepers : Karnezis , Kapino , Gianniotis ,Paschalakis, Kyriakidis. * Defenders: Sokratis, Manolas, Tzavellas , Papadopoulos , Retsos , Stafylidis , Cholebas** , Torosidis , Bakakis , Midfielders: Samaris , Zeca , Tachtsidis , Siopis , Galanopoulos , Androutsos, Kourbelis , Tziolis*** , Bouchalakis Forwards: Fortounis, Mantalos ,Christodoulopoulos, Fetfatzidis, Mitroglou , Donis, Karelis Prospects:Lazaros Lamprou, Giakoumakis, Mourgos, Masouras,Koutris, Lykogiannis, Manthatis *No Lamprou. This guy was bought from Ajax and I was like wow, yet he is not even in their first team bench, he plays with the reserves youth squad, no way anyone calls him up at this stage of his career **Would be nice if he wasn't such a douche , hanging the team for just one coach. But since we dont have him thank goodness Stafylidis stepped up. ***Stop crying over Tziolis his experience with the team is needed. He was first called up 10 years ago, he is the last from the generation that produced only success. We need his experience. Of course he doesn't have to start. But he is needed to be there. All the other players are gonna be fillers. Vellios just there to fill the spot of a 2nd holding striker behind Mitroglou. Diamantakos there to be the 4th, Koutroubis there to just fill spots and literally find have enough players for a training διπλό. Ninis and Kone are done for. They are over. Delete them from your memory. Fetfatzidis/Lazaros still of an age to possibly rejoin the NT if asked.
  9. Cyprus vs. Greece ( 7 October 2017, GSP Stadium, Nicosia )

    Just consider the B side Tielemans,Defour,Mirallas,Benteke,Batsuayi,Thorgan Hazard. Bosnia needs a win so they re gonna open up. Their defence sucks so they re gonna concede once. Then they gonna open up more and end up with 4-5. The only reason we played Belgium in a pretty balanced way twice, was because we have a defense that's capable of nulifying most organized attacks. Bosnia realistically can't, and neither can they score heaps of goals against the decent B defence of Belgium.
  10. Cyprus vs. Greece ( 7 October 2017, GSP Stadium, Nicosia )

    Why would the fans be punished (or the team) for something which had nothing to do with them Wrong. A representative of your federation physically hit a represetnative of our federation. It actually HAD to do with them. A game behind closed doors means not only that your team has no atmosphere to back them up, but also that your federation loses a portion of their income from that match. It seems as a fair punishment. Videos show Bazdarevic actually talking to Manolas with an aggressive/intimidating voice. Is he not a representative of your team/Federation as well? You are literally clueless about how organizations work, if you think no punishment should exist. any greater punishment would be comical Again wrong. A bigger fine or a match behind closed doors, for reasons explained before in this post, seems more reasonable and realistic. If I remember correctly your cops and fans were attacking the Greek side as well. I guess if UEFA had decent footage of it(and not just pictures of Cops blocking the pathway not allowing our fans to go out) It would be comical to do something about it right? I mean you can't be wrong and biased can you? Jesus. I mean Jesus, if you just wanna come here and make a fool of yourself you could just say that Besic is good after his only start whole season Everton lost to Atalanta 3-0. Greece got off without any punishment for their antics in November so why are you so outraged? Our national anthem talks about people sacrificing themselves to not become the pawns of a conqueror, and about the bones of Greeks who fought and died in order for this country to be what it is today. Your fans booing our Anthem in 2013 shows disrespect (of course our fans did it back too next match because this is footy) so does a banner about the Serbian bloodlust. Why you keep spamming it like it's something different? We dont like you, you dont like us get over it. I don't remember anyong punching any of your manlets in the face, so how exactly is a "brutal yet successfull(considering the butthurt it created)fan bantz" related with a "Federeation employee punch in da face and remove a tooth of a 1,60 smurf" or even close? What they teach u in Bosnian school? F*CKIN LOLOLOLEN MY BROSNIAN. There is no global conspiracy against your football federation. Noone said that. Everyone in international forums (non Greeks if you dont mind) said that there is just a UEFA extra care torwards the Bosnian Federation. for drawing a swastika on the pitch vs Italy, Croatia got a 2 match closed doors suspension and a point deduction, so there is no conspiracy. You just mentioned the problem yourself. No matter what the Swastiga represents, in that match it was just a form of speech. A political view. Croat ultras wanna be nazis and racist? Let them f*ckin be. They re just ridiculing themselves in front of the whole world and making a bad name for themselves. You gonna try to call me neo nazi go ahead, it just proves how unable to understand my statement you are. Anyways, UEFA somehow thought that, a federation member punching an opponent in the face after the match is over --mind you the reason is because he didnt want Bazdarevic to stop swearing to Manolas and he didn't wanna stop Dzeko from fighting Manolas just because he wanted to, but no Option C :Kick a manlet in the face and have him stay awake for the tooth fairy, seemed the best one-- is more acceptable and less punishable behaviour than publishing your political views and your intolerance torwards other races. Both are reprehensible, but its another thing what happens between the member federations of UEFA, which UEFA has the authorities to punish, and what happens from the fans, who - with a non violent yet unacceptable neo nazi behaviour - honestly apart from showing the Swastiga, did nothing hostile You ve probably seen i ve bolded all these definitions Federation member/employee/representative. This just to make you understand why punishing a Federation for Gilli's act is justified. Good night mios amigo. Im high af although im pretty sure its obvious.
  11. Cyprus vs. Greece ( 7 October 2017, GSP Stadium, Nicosia )

    Just an interesting fact. Of Cyprus 10 points in the Group 6 are from beating Gibraltar twice. at the 2nd placed teams ranking Cyprus would have 4 points and a GD of -7. Cyprus are mathematically out if they even draw us, and they are officially realistically out right now because no way they score 11 goals in their last two games. The only reason I can find for Cyprus to fight for a win is to just claim higher elo spot(s). After their win vs Bosnia I expect them to be motivated to "PUSH FOR THE WIN*. And we both know that our team doesnt struggle vs open teams hoping for a win but from teams that park the bus more than us. One more thing Id like to Mention: Oldest players in the squad vs Belgium/Estonia: Karnezis/Torosidis/Tziolis at 32. We ve developped a pretty decent squad agewise.
  12. why didnt u post this when Bosnia generated chance after chance against us in Athens, but yet they failed to win us? You only see this based on what suits you. We lost 2 points vs Estonia when Bosnia lost 3 to Cyprus. We could have lost 1 point vs Bosnia and having this campaign ended from matchday 6.
  13. The odds are equal to Sweden/Netherlands and Ireland. Ireland is in deeper shitte if thye finish 2nd tho.
  14. In the beginning of the draw Gibraltar and Kosovo werent recognized by fifa so the put them afterwards in the qualification. SO two groups (H and I) had 5 teams. With the addition of them teams in the Group all Groups have 6 teams. Apart from this fact I have also heard that the Group 6 teams are unbalanced. It's a different thing playing a team that has professional footballers (like Georgia Kazakhstan heck even Kosovo and Malta) and another thing to play Gibraltar, Liechtenstein and Andora). I am not sure if this is an official criteria for "why is it this way" or just a reasonable yet unofficial statement. We will probably find out in the next world cup qualifiers when all Groups will have equal teams. It is not confusing. It existed and in 2014 and in 2010 where we qualified in both tourneys as 2nd but we were in a too good of a position to bother if we might take the play off spot or not.
  15. Road To Russia 2018 FIFA World Cup

    My dear friend do you remember when in 2010 and 2012 we had a midfield of Katsouranis Karagounis Tziolis/Maniatis and people complaining that Katsou and Kara are too old? You wanted Tachtsidis / Kone / Ninis and every random person in there. I even remember discussions about Vlachodimos (the wanna-be- professional winger of B Gallias) deserving a call up. Do you remember after 2014 where Karagounis/Katsouranis sorta retired we had no cohesense in the midfield and lost to teams like Finland/Faroe Islands/Romania? The image of those matches was the same. Apart from 1-2 in the Euro 2016 campaign we looked shitte in all matches and we were actually the worst team. Not resultwise but THE WORST DAMN TEAM on the field vs Faroe Finland Romania and many many more. The reason was simple. We didnt have Karagounis and Katsouranis no more. Maniatis started being benched. Kone lost all motivation for his career and football in general and Tachtsidis proved to be no Katsouranis. You ask for Skibbe to play Tachtsidis? Last time he did it vs Belgium he takes 50% of the blame for the draw because he left us with 10 men for 30+ minutes. But suddently you forgot it. Tziolis did nothing too good vs Belgium but he barely did 1-2 mistakes, fewer than many of our players. He is good at freezing the rhythm and that's why skibbe prefers him. Tachtsidis attributes are his height and his long pass. When we play Gibraltar and need goals or Cyprus he might be used. Zeca was the back of De Bruyne. Skibbe can literally ask him to make an opponent MF player vanish from the field and he will do it. He did it with Pjanic he did it with De Bruyne. Teams like Bosnia who are literally too reliant upon a few names we literally have the advantage based on Karolos Zekas (or maybe Karolos Zekakis,Zekouranis Zekagounis) I will remain to my aspect. It took Skibbe 7 months to take a team from 1win/4draws/7defeats in 12 matches (friendlies counted in the 2014-16 period) to make a team that can draw Belgium and Bosnia. The thing is , even with the bad result of Estonia and Belgium. The team DID DEFINATELY NOT look like the sh!th0le it was under Ranieri Markarian and Tsanas. We dominated the whle game vs Estonia and just lacked that 1-0 goal that we usually scraped. Even if we do not qualify, even if we end up as the 9th team, as long as we finish 2nd in this Group Skibbe has totally transformed them from zero to hero. The only game we looked bad was vs Bosnia home. Rome was not build in a day. A team that missed the Euro finishing last in a Group (a non typical qualification ranking I suppose would be somewhere between 46-53) has now many possibilities to be in UEFA's top 18 for this qualification. You keep asking for a new coach but you never gonna accept the fact that we are no Germany/ France/Italy/ Spain/ England. The only coach in recent days of Greek football that has heard nothing is Ouzounidis. Everyone, reporters and fans, say nothing against him. The only thing you ll listen is "kai ti na kanei aftos re m#$%! me toso xamhlou epipedou paiktes". Bento had the worst roster of Olympiakos in the last 10 years and he literally got us further in Europe than all these seasons. Yet everyone called Bento bad. It's easy to blame Skibbe, because it's easier to replace one person and not 23 as the call ups.
  16. Can a MOD please move it to road to Russia ? I probably failed on posting it here, got taken away from the discussion being here.
  17. Full Analysis of 2nd spot after 8 matches: After Today's Matches: Group B: Portugal/Switzerland Group C: Northern Ireland Group G: Italy have mathematically taken play off spots. 5 spots left. Group F: Slovakia is Tricky. They have already 12 points but only have one match left that counts. and that Match is vs Scotland away, which is another attender for 2nd spot. If Slovakia lose to Scotland, They go second with 11 points and a GD -2. If Slovakia and Scotland draw, Slovakia remains 2nd with 13 points and a GD + 6. Still above us unless we throw 5 goals to Cyprus.(In case of even GD aka if we scored 4 to Cyprus, bigger attack matters and currently we got 7 while they have 11). All this according to the most possible scenario that Slovenia loses at England next matchday and is off the 2nd spot hunt. My opinion is that Slovakia will dominate this Group and it's too hard we find a savior from here, and even if they don't its too many results needed to be combined. I'd give a 5% chance at best the results help us. Group A: Sweden-Netherlands. Currend 2nd spot team Sweden has 10 points right now. Other 2nd spot contender is Netherlands with right now 10 points. The last placed team has not been decided in that Group. Both Belarus(currentl last) and Luxemburg have 5 points. Belarus has a harder programme as they have France away and Netherlands at home. I expect Belarus who already have a worse GD than Luxemburg by 2 goals to finish last. which means that Luxemburg just need to concede 2 less from Sweden away and Bulgaria at home. I believe a totally uninterested Bulgaria in last matchday will not score many. So based in this Scenario Sweden can reach +3 points and go to 13(with more than +3GD if they Beat Netherlands, while Netherlands can get +3 points at best if they beat Sweden at home. Both teams can end up with maximum 13 points same as us, depending on the match between them. Currently Sweden with +3 GD and Netherlands with a +2. It is obvious that we can hope that both teams either draw each other or win by one goal. I would honestly give this group a 25% chance to give a last team. Group E: It's a battle of Montenegro/Denmark. Currently both at 10 points with a maximum of 16. Denmark currently has a +6 GD while Montenegro has a +3. Their upcomming matches have them to play each other at Montenegro(note that Montenegro beat Denmark away). Last matchday however Montenegro plays at Poland away and Denmark plays Romania,which might be a factor. The Group is not yet decided, but based on Montenegro last matchdays I give them few chances of finishing above Denmark, as they have the same Goal Differences so it might come down to Montenegro conceding lots to Poland or Denmark scraping goals to uninterested Romania. I believe Denmark have higher chances to finish 2nd and based on their current GD(+6) they most likely will finish above us even if they lose to Montenegro. I give this group slim chances to give the last spot. 5% . Group I: Currently even Croatia is in the game for possible second. This is definately not good for us. Croatia 10 points with a possible 16 against Finland and Ukraine(4th and 5th teams). They will definately scrap at least 4 points and be above us if second. No point to check GD. If they somehow end up with only one win at 13 points they have a GD +2. Will probably top the Group with 4 points though. Iceland already 13 points and a GD of +3 with the possibiliy of becomming 16 or 14 against Turkey away. It's the 2nd spot derby. If Iceland lose Turkey steals their 2nd spot and they are currently with 8 points and a -1 GD. For Turkey to finish 2nd they need 2 wins which will get them to 14 points and above us in points. This is probably the most possible scenario as Turkey are currently on fire and even beat Croatia athome. Their last match is vs Finland. If the match Turkey-Iceland goes to draw Iceland grab a point and are above us in point. All these possibilities considering Ukraine is non typically off the hunt for 2nd spot (They play neither Turkey nor Iceland to their last 2 matches to be able to steal points from them and they are already 2 points behind Iceland). Best case scenario: Turkey win Iceland, Iceland are stuck in 13 points and a GD < +2 and Turkey drops points away to Finland. Too many results needed for our favor find it hard , Id give them however more than the others, a 15% as all teams have low GD and low goals scored if it comes to that it might be a factor. So 15% they are a bottom playoff spot team. Group D: Wales have currently 8 points and have played Moldova twice which means they have a possible maximum of 14. Mathematically , based on all the combinations of their upcomming matches they can't get 5 points and be on tie with us so the GD doesnt matter , although it would be in our favor as they have +1. (The 13 points is a given from the fact that we need to beat Cyprus to possibly be in 2nd spot, so we ll end up 2nd only with 13 points , or with 10 goals vs Gibraltar, which is impossible ). Wales Play Georgia away which ended up in a tie last time they met , and then have Ireland at home so I would give them slight c hances of reaching those 14 points. Which means that Ireland with playing Moldova at home has higher chances to finish 2nd. Ireland currently have also 10 points and a GD OF +1 If I am not wrong, after losing to Serbia today. Considering that even if they end up second, it's probabl gonna be with low goals or draw vs Wales(which means Wales go 2nd with 12 points and are behind us in case of draw), as they play them away, and both teams are not offensive powerhouses. Since they have only one match left due to playing Moldova again, max points they can also get is 13. In other words Ireland has higher chances than Greece to be last team because of them playing Wales and us Cyprus. Group gets a 25% for giving the last team. Group H is our Group. We ve talked about everything . If im not Wrong 25% was meant to be left for our spot as well. However, considering that we win Cyprus convincingly and our GD goes up from +3 to +5. I think that can have it non-typically settled. It seems to be between us / Netherlands/Sweden and Wales/Ireland Friendly reminder that the Netherlands-Sweden match is played 10 october at 21:45 , Wales- Ireland at 9 october 21:45 and Greece - Cyprus at October 7 21:45. So even if we win Cyprus, we might have to wait till the last minute of the last qualifier to know if we grabbed a spot or not, if prelast matchday results don't settle it down. The fact that we will have a GD +5 (if we win cyprus by 2) or +6 (if we win by 3) which is a hopeful but not impossible scenario puts the pressure on all the teams mentioned on the run to not only win, but to make sure they have an efficient GD with the other contender for last spot , aka us. Ireland and Wales might surely struggle offensively based on their current GD and latest results. So If we were secured the 2nd spot( and not Bosnia) I believe our chances would be at least half than the other two Groups. To sum up / too long didnt read version : If we win Cyprus by 2 and Bosnia draws/loses to Belgium we will most likely not finish as the 9th team. Sorry for the long post but I think im giving an insight and relaxing people who ll be on their feet this whole month till the last qualifiers. I literally had nothing better to do (+ Wanted to see our chances for myself).
  18. The results against last finishing teams dont count only between the 2nd placed teams. The results count when it comes to who finishes 1st,2nd,3rd in the Group. Its only between the 2nd placed teams. The reason this mechanism of uefa qualifiers exists is because until last year , we had Groups of only 5 teams and not 6. With Gibraltar/Kosovo additions we no longer have. So they had to somehow figure which team was the 2nd worst when some 2nds had played 10 matches and some 2nds had played 8. So they just didnt take into account the matches of the 6th team. If you didnt understand agian tell me so I write it in Greek and maybe sound more reasonable.
  19. Yep but wales ahead with a goal gives then 2nd spot. yet 8 points.
  20. before todays match Greece is above Ireland coz we have scored one extra goal than them. I will check the data and possibilities after todays matches are finished coz right now wales is drawn to moldova. It seems to me however (Since Wales have currently12 points after playing a win over Moldova and their current draw undergoing at 75') that if Wales takes second play today , over a win, they re also at 8 points and +1 goal.Considering the fact that Wales has difficult matches and Ireland maybe thats where this group (and the last team of play offs) is settled. Both of them help us qualify beyond them if the current results remain.
  21. The time you posted this however Montenegro , Italy Sweden and Ukraine have not played their 8th match although we have. I dont give a f*ck about the qualification at this point just make sure to not finish behind such a bad team - as they proved to be - Bosnia.According to upcomming matches. Its either gonna be us/Bosnia or Group I and Group D the team who gets kicked from the playoffs. Many teams have harder programmes however, so I really expect this to be settled in literaly the last 10 minutes of the last match of the last group matchday. Slovakia has to play the other play off spot contender Scotland away. If they lose they re stuck in 12 points with a Gd < 6. That is their last match counting for second spot rank. Montenegro/Denmark both teams have matches to play that can only give them points(have played with the minnow already twice) so they seem to be in a good position to take a spot. Italy have to play Israel / Fyrom / Albania they re guaranteed a spot Portugal and Northern Ireland are also Guaranteed a spot as the max points our NT can reach right now is 13 and they both have more than that. 5/8 teams have already qualified for the play offs. Ukraine/Iceland/Turkey vs Wales/Ireland vs Greece/Bosnia From these 3 match ups the Ukraine/Iceland/Turkey group is the most possible in my opinion because they re literally scoring too little, so I doubt that they ll open their defenses in the last matches where making sure your opponent loses points is probably more important than winning. Wales I expect them to walk over anyone in the last matches and make good points and good goal difference, so Id rank us as the 2nd favorite to miss the play offs. Bosnia seems already lost from the play offs. Cant see them scrapping more than 4 points. We really have to start considering the fact that we might be left out because of this criteria.
  22. Suggested Call Ups, Starting 11

    One year of maturity for some players and this is a strong line up: - - - - - - - - - - Karnezis - - - - - - - - - - - -Retsos-Sokratis-Manolas - - - Torosidis-Samaris-Zeca-Stafylidis - - - - - - - - - - -Fortounis - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Donis - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mitroglou - - - - - - - - - - I know noone likes 3-5-2 but maybe it is because of the players we have? Everyone sais it doesnt work but Dortmund used 3-5-2 this season quite a lot, so sokratis is familiar. Roma used 3-5-2 as well quite a few times this season, so I cant think Manolas being a stranger with it. Tzavellas knows it too and Im pretty sure Retsos who is good with the ball on his feet and quite versatile can't adapt to it. As for Skibbe 4-4-1-1 against Belgium. We didnt allow space to any of their good wingers. It will be a shame if we dont reach the WC and Torosidis - Sokratis - Karnezis - Samaris - Zeca - Mitroglou come of age.
  23. You re calculating the goals based on today. If Bosnia win Belgium they ll get extra goal difference which u re not taking account of. I am sorta confident that this team will win both matches left. Cyprus is as uninterested as Belgium, because they need all the other results, apart from winning us and Belgium and scraping 4 goals to each of us, to go their way. This group proves to be hard in the end. Last WC we gathered 25 points and we were a pot 1 team. We ll win both and end up in 19. Lithuania is much worse than Cyprus. Bosnia is the same pot 2 team like the 2014 qualification and instead of Latvia we got a Belgium. Stats clearly don't lie. We ve even scored more goals and the fact that we manage to score on the counter against better teams , 3 goals vs Bosnia and Belgium, while we struggled vs park the bus teams proves that we re on track with the Santos era. I am really hoping that Skibbe stays with the NT for another campaign. Also, I had a friend here yesterday who quit following football when he started studying abroad. He hadnt seen the NT since wc 2014 and he told me that we have some players that we never really had. Modern football players Stafylidis Donis Fortounis Zeca who are very active on the field and very mobile players. I can't disagree with him that our NT is currently a lot better looking than when this campaign started. Not many static players. Even Samaris bursts his asss off and against Gibraltar he was looking lost and not in par with the opponent. Even against Estonia we didnt struggle, it was just the goal that was missing to prove who was the best team on the field. Karma owes us the second spot.
  24. Exactly this. This defeat was totally unrelated to the result since we know from the beginning hte goal scoring is against us. Bosnia, either we drew yesterday or lost, MUST win Belgium. Considering Bosnia is playing in an away small ground with 0 attendance really does not exactly build the atmosphere they want in their home matches.
  25. win or draw works since beating cyprus means we go through with any result bosnians bring. And then we let them fight with Estonians and Cypriots for 3rd-4th.
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