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  1. 2015-16 season : Gent from pot 4, Wolfsburg from pot 4, Roma from pot 3, Dynamo Kiev from pot 3. 4 teams outside pots 1 and 2 made it to the R of 16.ps 2014-15 season: Monaco from pot 4, Leverkusen from pot 3 , just 2 teams here , i can give you that 2013-14 season: Zenit pot 3, Dortmund pot 3, Olympiakos pot 3, Bayer Leverkusen pot 3, Manchester City pot 3, Galatasaray pot 3, 6 teams outside pots 1 and 2 2012-13 season: Celtic pot 4, Dortmund pot 4, Paris Saint Germain pot 3, Malaga pot 4, Galatasaray pot 3, Juventus pot3, 6 teams outside pot 1 and 2 2011-12 season: Apoel pot 4, FC Basel pot 3, Bayer Leverkusen pot 3, Napoli pot 4, Zenit pot 3, 5 teams outside pot 1 and 2 4 out of the 5 last years half or more of the Groups of CL had a pot 3 or 4 team qualifying to the R-16 I would like to add that the team of PSV Eindhovn also made it out the R-16 despite being an otherwise a pot 3 or 4 team. All these 5 seasons we competed to the Champions League as a pot 3 Team. We only made it out once out of 5 continuous seasons. In all seasons we got the money from champions league group competition + money from wins and points in CL due to: 10 points and qualification to the R-16 in 2013-14 season 9 points the 2015-16 year 9 points the 2014-15 year 9 points the 2012-13 year 9 points the 2011-12 year + from 2010-2011 until now we have won all 5(6th incomming) and 3 cups. I can agree that the Greek Cup probably does not give that much income as the English,Italian,Spanish and German or even the French and Russian Championships, but teams like Dynamo Kiev, Monaco , APOEL , Napoli ,Roma and Malaga only had few Champions League entries and still managed what we consider a *DREAM*. By the way, when you say we got 9 points in groups including , Bayern, PSG , it makes it look like we got at least 1 point out of them, rephrase. And yeah , my bad about Anderlecht , meant they had one season in CL over the last few years (after our Continuous champions league apperanaces since 2010) they apparently have 2. Anything beyond that is before Marinakis. We spent money on some pretty decent players , including Roberto, Dominguez,Saviola,Cambiasso. These players came here just because of a secure Champions League spot. Just because they know that no matter what , they are playing at Champions League. Now that we dont have such a luxury , we can't secure players from June, we have to firstly qualify and then approach such a type of players, who wanna play to Champions League and there is no other reason for them to come to Greece. You will see the downfall of Greek Superleague which means the Downfall of the Greek teams as well and our so beloved Olympiakos, will be faster than the National Team's one.
  2. what happened to pelkas guys ? saw him at ur europa qualifiers ,he was awesome, works well with mak. why are his statistics so low ? is he playing well ?
  3. 2008 he must have been like 26 ? Now he is at his finishing years. Hope we can find replacement juast as good as him. Its already ahrd with Holebas being our weak spot in defence, now imagine having 2 weak spots...
  4. Especially for Bate, they have managed to keep draws vs Roma , Leverkusen , Liverpool (if i remember correctly they might have won liverpool). Also played very well against big teams like Real and Barcelona. What have Anderlecht and Malmo managed in the last couple of years ? Anderlecht only had 1 season at Champions League, Malmo just managed to beat Olympiakos and Shakhtar Donetsk . Dinamo won arsenal ,I can give them that , but we all understood what a joke of a team they are when they played against us. Still cant figure out why they bench Schildenfeld. If you wanna believe that our team is successfull in Europe by escapeing to the round of 16 Once every 5 years under Marinakis , you can go on and do it .Id rather not be stupid though.
  5. Wouldnt be any different to put these players I mentioned in a B team. Our championship and even our lower ranks are not so challenging , so this team would finish B e8nikh first every season and the players still wouldnt be able to play in A ethniki. I just had a discussion with some people , and they told me some pretty logical stuff. A talented player that plays in Greece A,B leagues must be very lucky to get a deal from a foreign team. The other possibilities are A) be bought by Olympiakos , loaned to Aris,Levadia,Panionios,Ergotelis. There he will play with pretty average teammates who can't help him get more attention , but instead could also keep him down, and a coach that most likely does not know how to use him best at the position that his talent helps him priveil. Fast forward 2 years and that player is used to the Super League tempo , which is totally non-existend, he sees no interest from a club that bought him like a maniac, which is the only club that can give him access to Europe ,and so his lust for success/glory are gone , and maybe his interest for the sport itself are gone. And B he hasa good manager and family who help him realise what's best for his career and not for their tseph. Who help him understand that if he goes to Oly it will be a very fast move and could make his following career vanish.
  6. Oh! And I tend to agree with all these Paos and Paoktzides who say we ruin some talents. The last 5 years, all those Greek youth/some not so young that we bought and ended up loaning them to Leivadia, Chania , Nea Smurni and other teams I am almost 1000% sure that they could help build a Panathinaikos with much less flows than it has right now , and with much much cheaper wages. This would mean that Panathinaikos (i hate Alafouzos but its the most logic thing that could happen- I REALLY THINK ALAFOUZOS MISTREATS THE TEAM AND IS A KARAGIOZIS, DONT COME TELLING ME I SUPPORT HIM) could spend the money it did on useless metagrafes to bring maybe a couple of bigger names to Greece and help the championship get Recognized. Vouros , Kolovos , Tzandaris , Gianniotas , Vergos , Kapino , Avlonitis , Bouchalakis , Martinez , Yatabare , Pulido. Goutas -------------------------Kapino----------- --------Vouros Goutas Avlonitis------- ----------Bouchalakis Yatabare------- --------------- Martinez----------------- Gianniotas----Vergos----Pulido----- this team could totally reach playoffs. The championship itself has already been upgraded, with the likes of like 10 teams aiming for playoffs. Pao , Aek , Paok , Asteras Tripolis , Iraklis are the current favorites to fight for a playoff spot and with teams like Levadiakos , Paniwnios , Pas Giannina and Xanthi being a possible threat. The upgrade of the championship's difficulty is pretty obvious from the fact that a team that was used to reach playoff the last couple of years ,is currently fighting relegation , I am talking about Atromitos. But with Oly having no opponent , we are going nowhere. And here comes my antepixeirhma as an Oly fan and supporter. Ok , we stole some players from you , without needing them for the squad but just for the Lulz. Give some money and bring some players , or pay their managers a little more to get them you cheap fuks. That is all.
  7. To whoever posting about us losing from Dnipro and Levante , I seriously can't understand how it is not so Obvious to you. Olympiakos does not care for Europa. Olympiakos has falsely the opinion that since Europa gives no money its not worth fighting for. Which is true for big teams like the Whole English Premier League , The Whole German Bundesliga and the top teams of each good championship, a.k.a. the teams that can get their hands on Champions League money. However , when Olympiakos gets kicked out of C L with 9 points almost every damn year, and doesnt give a f or two for Europa getting beaten by soon relegated Levante and a one season team named Dnipr, Greece gets downgraded , and now we re in a Situation where we ll be playing Europa league for almost every year. None of these players that I will be name , would be in the squad currently if it wasnt for the secure Champions League Group Stage attendance : Finnbo , Pardo , Massuaku , Kasami , Roberto, Cambiasso, Ideye, aka 5 of our 11 starters wouldnt care comming to a Championship not worth much. We need to realize that under Marinakis , while the team has clearly dominated in Greece , in Europe we re a joke. Cant think of a 3rd power group team that in the last 5-6 years played at CL and only managed to qualify for the 16 once. Now you ll tell me that we always get kicked out with 9 points while there are other teams that make it to the R16 with only 5 and 6 points. What you are telling me exactly is that that type of Groups are more balanced , meaning we would have the same chances to finish 4th as we d have to finish above 3rd place. Its a blessing that all this time , we ve had teams like Dinamo , Anderlecht , Malmo as our 4th tier opponent. Teams like Bate Borisov is far superior (and unlucky if you ask me) Gent or even Ludogorets seems like they would easily eat us.
  8. We r@ped the m no penalty , everyone sad we got no penalty so they can't call us anything. Most common comment we will be hearing for the next week "It was only Panionios". Except if Vazeles remember they lost from this team , and AEK drew or something ?
  9. Too damn slow for EPL imo. Wingers there would make him look terrible.
  10. However, not going out from the group they had at WC 14 and Euro 12 , i wouldnt say its a huge thing. (to be honest their euro 12 group was the hardest possible since they had both finalists , but Im implying that they are underachieving as well based on talent)
  11. Croatia does as expected for their talent. Kovacic , Rakitic , Modric , 3 players that prove that , midfield matters a lot.
  12. The Heraklion stadium of Ergotelis is trully Huge, I live close to the Gienti Koule of OFI. Was thinking of taking a season pass this year now that they fell to G Ethniki , wouldnt be more than 40 Euros I pressume.
  13. Also Dzeko aint even close to how good he was before the WC. Has played few games , in a less demanding league. They are as well , comming from a very bad campaign from a similary easy group, if not easier.
  14. Vellios is worse than Mitroglou ? We simply can't know mate. Vellios got his first good signing at a much younger age than Mitroglou did. Mitroglou , I agree , is not bad . Might actually be a real goal machine , but our current formation with the Greeks we have , behind him doesnt seem to work. Id say play them both , they are 2 totally different players who can easily work together , like how Karelis and Berg work, but the opposite formation. Berg plays slightly better from Karelis. Berg is very slow and not so moving in the field , while Karelis is fast. Berg is also an excellent finisher. Berg plays slightly behind Karelis if i have understood the PAO scheme correctly. Now, what we can do with Vellios and Mitroglou is the same thing , but maybe opposite. Keep Vellios slightly behind , who is fast and can run for kinda bad crosses, but can also shoot, and keep Mitroglou terma panw , for finishing. Vellios linked to Olympiakos after only like 10 matches, he s done something worth noticing.
  15. Lol what are you talking about. Last 2 friendlys were away , at Luxemburg and Turkey , and the next Friendlies after these are probably gonna be the ones at Australia , Also away. Seriously whaaat.
  16. Aravidis scored against Olympiakos in March. You were crying for his call up before that .Also , your team costed and had much better and talented players than the current AEL material , meaning he doesnt get any boost from his midfielders as a striker , maybe its evne the opposite. Not judging the guy, might be totally bad , might actually be good , we ll soon find out, but im just making it clear that your achievements last year was a total joke that not even you care anymore.
  17. According to their achievements we cant rate the team bad. They spent about 10 years being in the top 15 or top 20 maybe of the world, they are without a doubt , not a bad team. If you ask me , we have a better team offensively than before. And Im not talking about just the last game against Hungary , where Pelkas, Fortounis , Mantalos , showed great character. Karelis , Mitroglou , are a totally different type of player than what Samaras, Salpigidis were. They had the job done , maybe cause of luck , maybe because of weaker opponents , but they had it done , but I still believe that our current forwards , area level higher. Samaras could keep ball until the midfield got up front to score , but honestly , how many times did he fail trying to pass 2-3 players ? How many attacks that could be continued to a
  18. You Aektzides are funny. Last year in December you were making a huge fush over the call up of Aravidis in Ethniki, talking about the most in form Striker etc. This year AEL's player Maroukakis has played all 13 Football League games and has scored 9 times during them , and apparently , this year football league doesn't even exist for you.
  19. If we dont come out of this group as 2nd at least then we really have failed totally. Our group is one of the easiest , if not THE EASIEST. Going 2nd is easy. Also apart from Benteke , the rest of belgium is not exactly in its top form, without me saying that they are gonna lose any match or something , taking them on and maybe drowing with them is something easy. Bosnia is totally off form as well , Dzeko terrible this season and barely playing , they just have some midfielders who are young and talented but nothing our defence cant keep up with in my opinion.
  20. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yG7ZwBfSfE This Goal at 0:55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms49FATNrJk This Goal Also an Assist that he made in a match this season , with a
  21. Its the same league agreed , but its also the training that matters. Its a different thing to be marking players like ljalic , gervinho , dzeko during training , and another thing to be marking the players of Genoa. it matters a lot in the form of a player. This is probably why Vellios , instead of being a total trash with no form , it only took him a couple of weeks to
  22. To be honest , as long as the defence stays as it is , and if not 3 CBs then 2 CBs and 1 extra defensive mid , i dont really care much about how the attack will go , i pretty much doubt everyone except Pelkas who , even at a paok that has been left far behind , shows talent, and Fortounis. The rest , I care not. Id like to see vellios start at upcommung friendlies. and even Giannou. Moreover , I dont think we should play with players wide , We just dont have extrems apart from fetfatzidis . Ranieri had to use Diamantakos and that AEK tagari whose name I ve even forgoten. My Starting 11 could be something like : - - - - - - - - - - - Karnezis - - - - - - - - - - - Torosidis - Manolas - Sokratis - Holebas - - - - - - Tachtsidis - - Samaris - - - - - - - - - - - - Pelkas - - - - - - Fortounis - - - - - - - - - - Mitroglou - - - - - Vellios - - - - - 4 - 2 - 2 - 2 In general I was a fan of a 3 - 5 - 2 but we simply cant have K. Paps non injured all the time so we cant rely a lot in that. Siovas good as well but not as good as K. Paps so a 3 -5 - 2 with siovas would mean we re on disadvantage, considering that our bad luck in scoring will keep on following us. Subs/back-ups: Goalkeepers : Karnezis is far better than Kapino , playing as a starter everywhere he went , in Spain and Italy , since he left PAO, where he was also one of the most decend GKs. Also Kapino doesn't play in Oly. I bet even if Roberto leaves they ll get someone else instead of giving the boy a chance. Keep Kapino as back up. Defenders : K. Papadopoulos and Siovas for the CBs, upcoming talents are Ikonomou and Tzanetopoulos as you said. Kitsiou , Bakakis could make it big in a Spanish/Italian championship. Stafylidis is in my opinion Equal to Jose , but his crosses are Gold. Fuhlam guys loved him Midfielders : Maniatis if he ever reclaims his former form, and finally gets a good transfer to a top club could even become a starter. That guy has no shot at all , agreed , but he is fast like hell and very good defensively. Petsos, probably is now free from the Austrian team. If he stays there , or decides to go to a better team he has future. If he comes to Olympiakos as rumours say we are ruined. He cant play when we have Milivojevic Cambiasso and Kassami. The guy can't fit and he ll be left out and be destroyed. Tziolis. I dont care if you dont like him. I do. Attacking Midfielders : looking back 3 years ago we had noone in that position. Literally. We saw a good star in the Eyes of Katidis who ended up ruining his career at the age of 21(? not sure ?). 3 Years back we have the likes of Fortounis , Kone and Mantalos , and maybe Pelkas if he keeps his form. Also , Ninis was used mostly as a Right Midfielder/Winger back then , now he has taken a more central/attacking mid role. I hope he continues to amaze. Strikers: Vellios, Giannou , Karelis even Diamantakos. The NT has a complete Roster. Now that they have seen that failures are possible , and not like last year when we were top seeds and would get easy draws, they are probably
  23. I dont see him fitting in PAO. Where will he play. only if karelis leaves then he could join , but if I were him I wouldnt even bother comming back.
  24. He has once more had a fight with coaching stuff and hes been kicked from the team.
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