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@Mitsos I see you're trying to convince your fellow Aris fans for the obvious. It's a lost cause my friend... They are crying for a bunch of U19 players PAOK loaned to Volos and they cannot see the affiliation you guys have with Olympiakos (Tatos, Diamantakos, Zaradoukas under the previous PAE, and Siopis, Martinez, Fetfatzidis, Durmisaj and God knows how many others Karipidis was begging to get from the big boss). You don't even know who was loaned who was "transferred". Durmisaj was allegedly a transfer, until it became public that the loan will be terminated and the player will return to his team. @ukworm argues about the validity of resting Sasha and whoever against Olympiakos because you have three big games coming. Would he say the same if you were playing in Toumba? Would he be fine with key players resting? Olympiakos win dropped to 1.16. Is that the difference of your team against Olympiakos? If not, then the match is already decided from your boss. How does that make you feel? I'm sure you'll just overlook and find a way to blame Savvidis about that as well. If the 1.16 shows the quality difference of the two teams, then don't ever ask again why you are not considered a BIG team. When Olympiakos is playing against Panionios, Panaitolikos, Lamia he doesn't get 1.16. I guess these teams are BIGGER than your team. PS: I'm fine with your role. You have one and only goal. PAOK not win the league again. You'll do anything in your power not to let that happen. I like it. I would probably do the same if I were in your shoes. The only problem is you don't admit it. Why you are so ashamed ukworm? Accept who you are in the bigger scheme of things. You are old enough. Volos has a role, Larisa has a role, Aris has its role. But, I want you to make it to the play-offs. And when PAOK wins the title (not sure what will be Prespon successor yet, Volvi I like) it will be even more joyous to me. Then, the only problem will be the big boss might get mad and cut all the support since you failed your mission. Then, you'll have more of B and G Ethniki waiting for you. Not to worry, you've done it before and you are still here. It won't kill you.

Regarding Vieirinha guys, he could play anywhere once he's fit. Unfortunately he's somewhere at 50-60% compared to last year. I only hope he will get better. Don't want to believe his best are behind him yet.

That's OK, Mitso! I do believe if Olympiakos was in our shoes you would have lost the game already IN PAPER.

Η ΠΑΕ είπε μετά τη σημερινή προπόνηση ότι το απουσιολόγιο έχει μόνο τον Ζαμπά. Αυτό σημαίνει ότι ο Πόντους είναι 100% καλά ή απλά βαρεθήκανε να λένε ότι γυμνάζεται μόνος του κλπ;

Το καλύτερο είναι ότι όλοι από δίπλα εκτός από τον Μήτσο κράζουν την παράγκα και τον Σαββίδη γι' αυτό που γίνεται. Τους κυνηγάει ο Τσετσένος ο κακός άνθρωπος. Το ότι πήραν με "μεταγραφή" τον Ντουρμισάι, ο οποίος τελικά αποδεικνύεται ότι ήταν δανεικός από τον Ολυμπιακό δεν τους πειράζει καθόλου. Δηλώνουν τον Σάσα να εκτίσει με Ολυμπιακό και ο ukworm το βρίσκει φυσικό γιατί ακολουθούν ματς-φωτιά όπως λέει. Η αξιοπρέπεια έχει χαθεί 100%. Όχι ότι και να έπαιζε θα άλλαζε κάτι, αφού το ματς είναι δοσμένο από ψηλά. Κάποτε είχατε λίγη αξιοπρέπεια όμως. Τώρα όλα έχουν πωληθεί στην προσπάθεια να μην πάρει πρωτάθλημα ξανά ο ΠΑΟΚ. Σκουλήκια, ο Σαββίδης και ο ΠΑΟΚ είναι ο μόνος που έχει μπέσα και ήθος. Αν ήμασταν Ολυμπιακός, το ματσάκι στο Χαριλάου θα το είχατε χάσει ήδη στα χαρτιά. Και αυτό το ξέρετε καλά μέσα σας και σας πονάει. Εμείς δεν είμαστε σαν αυτούς. Εμείς σεβόμαστε. Μπορεί να έχετε γίνει το πουτανάκι του Μαρινάκη με τον οπαδό του τον Παλέτα και αυτό σας αξίζει αφού δεν σας πειράζει, αλλά να ξέρετε ότι η στιγμή που θα πάρετε πάλι τα τρακτέρ δεν αργεί, γιατί όταν θα χρειαστείτε βοήθεια από τα αδέρφια σας από τον Πειραιά, θα σας σπρώξουν για να πέσετε πιο γρήγορα. Εσείς βέβαια θα τα ρίχνετε στον Ιβάν και τον ΠΑΟΚ. 7 σεζόν εκτός Α' Εθνικής και μυαλό δεν βάλατε. Προσκυνήστε τα πόδια του Μαρινάκη αφού αυτό σας αρέσει και σας ταιριάζει. Εσείς που είστε το αντίπαλον δέος του ΠΟΚ, της Αθήνας και του Πειραιά. Η μεγάλη ομάδα της Θεσσαλονίκης. Αντί για τίτλους και Ευρώπες θα δείτε διάλυση και υποβιβασμούς ξανά!

Ωπ, να τος και ο τζατζίκιος. Που έχεις χαθεί ρε ψυχή; Μήπως έχει ξεχάσει κάτι από πέρυσι;

They should win it because they are from Athens. We are poor people from Bulgaria who just deserve to finish 4th/5th/6th and lower. And we are happy enough for the "huge accomplishments" we had in 1920s/30s/40s and prove we are BIG teams!

@Mitsos I think you are a logical person to be against foreign refs or VAR. I'm against foreign refs who aren't top class. If the League could afford first-tier referees, I would be very happy to never see a Greek referee again. I don't blame them for being scared after all the attacks that remain unresolved. But if you are scared or incompetent you should stay home.

@Mitsos first of all, I admire and value your opinions. Period here so no one thinks I'm hitting on you. No League is for the good of the game. We all know the huge scandals that have happened throughout the history of football worldwide. Spain and Italy are probably the winners (alongside Greece), but there are plenty in every country. And of course Champions League is no exception. FIFA neither! I say I don't want Greek refs overall. Not only in PAOK games. You saw what happened at Aris-Xanthi of today at Panathinaikos-Giannena. I don't want to believe these people had orders to do these mistakes. It's just they don't have the abilities to do it. They have limitations. They are just not good enough. You are a person of dignity. Would you prefer a Greek ref or a foreigner ref in the derbies? And to answer your question, if people don't want foreign refs is because they lost what they had. Every whistle in their favor. Of course Olympiakos is the one who keeps screaming like a baby. Please let me remind you, last year Olympiakos - PAOK 0-1, Prijovic was called offside while going to a potentially 0-2. Did you hear any of us crying? Yes, we did mention, but that's all it is. On the other hand, Olympiakos every time they don't win they sue refs and threaten lives. What's your opinion on that? This year, AEK-PAOK 2-2 we were equalized by a goal that shouldn't have counted as there was offensive foul in the beginning of the play. Are we crying? You wanna go to the last PAOK-AEK 1-0? AEK are asking for two penalties, two red cards, disallowed goal, and who knows what else. Please go watch the game and tell me if they have any reason to do so. Watch the game and honestly tell me if the ref was playing in PAOK's favor. As a matter of fact when we scored the goal, not even Vranjes (who was allegedly fouled) said a word. IMO they are trying to hide their team's limitations behind a SFAGI. But there's non such. We won three times in a row the Cup against them and they still complain about the refs. BTW, it's exactly what gayroi were doing when AEK beat them 1-2 at Karaiskaki. They were asking for an offensive foul against Giakoumakis. Please go watch the goal I'm talking about. If that was a foul, yes, Swiderski's was also a foul. IMO, no foul whatsoever. They just cannot afford to lose. They always want to win. And now that PAOK, the small-village team from Bulgaria has grown they will do anything they can to change it. We lost from you guys 4-2. Were you better team? No. Did we play better football? Yes. Did we have more chances? Yes. But that's the beauty of it. We accepted our loss and said nothing. We didn't sue anyone as Olympiakos are doing every week. We are not going to send people pay a visit at the refs place, brake his knees or whatever... I mean, come on, last year we beat them twice and they called our title "πρωτάθλημα των Πρεσπών". In the second match at Toumba, which pretty much sealed the deal, they lost 3-1 in what could have been easily 5-1. They were outplayed in every aspect. And still they call it stimeno. Of course they don't want 50-50. They don't want foreign refs. They don't want VAR. Because they have Karapapas and Theodoridis screaming and putting pressure on everyone in the field. They go yell at half-time at refs (btw I read what you said about Karipidis and bravo once more), they threaten, and then "η καρδιά του πρωταθλητή μιλάει ως διά μαγείας". That's what they do decades now. Of course they want to go back to that. But honestly, you guys aren't getting anything even if they succeed to bring Greek football where it was. You might have friendly relationships, get players and whatnot, but when it comes down to titles, they will give you a big nothing. Even if you somehow manage to play a Cup final for example, they are going to win no matter what, like they did against Asteras Tripolis.

Εντωμεταξύ στα παιχνίδια Κυπέλλου που δεν έχει VAR έχουν γίνει όργια. Παιχνίδια χαμηλής πίεσης και οι διαιτητές και επόπτες δίνουν ότι να 'ναι. Η καλύτερη απόδειξη σε όσους (Ολυμπιακοί κυρίως και κάποια ανόητοι λοιποί που έχουν φάει προπαγάνδα) λένε: "Μα γιατί; Οι ξένοι διαιτητές καλύτεροι είναι; Δεν βγάζει καλούς διαιτητές η Ελλάδα; Δεν χρειαζόμαστε ξένους"! Και ξένους διαιτητές χρειαζόμαστε και VAR χρειαζόμαστε γιατί οι Έλληνες είναι ΤΣΟΥΤΣΕΚΙΑ!!! Ιερόδουλες του 50άρικου διαιτητές, έχετε αποδείξει πολλάκις ότι είστε άχρηστοι ή στημένοι. Το μόνο άλλοθι είναι ότι το μεγάλο αφεντικό σας ρίχνει ξύλο και η δικαιοσύνη δεν κάνει τίποτα. Παρατήστε τα. Ζητήστε μόνοι σας να παίζουν μόνο ξένοι. Ποιο τσουτσέκι Έλληνας επόπτης θα πάει χωρίς VAR να σηκώσει σωστό οφσάιντ σε μεγάλα ντέρμπι; Β' Εθνική και πολύ σας είναι! ΤΣΟΥΤΣΕΚΙΑ!!!

Καλή προπόνηση όπως είπε και ο Χρήστος. Μπράβο στον Λάμπρου, κρίμα για τον Ακπόμ. Προφανώς έχει γίνει εμμονή το γκολ και δεν μπορεί να σκοράρει. Πρέπει να χαλαρώσει λίγο. Και αυτός και ο Σφιντέρσκι βέβαια. Άσχετα που σκόραρε σήμερα, στα "κανονικά" παιχνίδια και οι δύο έχουν χάσει πολλά γκολ. Είναι νεαροί και τρελαμένοι, αλλά πρέπει να προσπαθήσουν να βελτιώσουν το παιχνίδι τους και να μην κοιτάνε μόνο τα νούμερα. Whoever has functional brain should be against statistics. Especially the youngsters. The are bombardized by how many goals Messi, Ronaldo scored, how many triple doubles LeBron had and because the stupid journalists pay more attention to that, they think that's how you become successful. No kids, you have to improve your game and the goals will come. Heads down and work your asses off. Both Akpom AND Swiderski!

Come on guys, eventually we all are going to become one big country. Of course we won't be alive, but that's what's gonna happen!

Here almost every day goes to 80 and if that makes me weak... Hell, I love it!

How are you all guys live up there? I just cannot imagine... I guess the same you would think of living in South Florida!

pash you wanna fly together to go watch the game and then come back? A couple more spectators will make a huge difference... or not

Θα θυμάμαι πάντα τον Αστέρα Τρίπολης για το 0-1 τότε με Σάντος που είπε για τις σαρδέλες και τα γνωστά... Σε κακό φεγγάρι φέτος, δεν παύει όμως να είναι υπολογίσιμη δύναμη που μπορεί να κάνει ζημιά.

Δεν είχα προσέξει καν την ώρα, έχεις δίκιο... Να βάλουν 3 ευρώ εισιτήριο και να πάνε όλοι οι άνεργοι που δεν έχουν δουλειά!

Wow, you are a true American! Cannot believe it... PAOK fans in US are not that many and always glad to find more! I don't count cause I've been only for a few years here and actually I'm not in US but North Cuba... Good games you've been! As for reds, I don't think you'll find many of them around... I am still looking for tzatziki to show up...

@Alphonseif you go and read today's Ωρα των Σπορ you'll think they're talking about a different game... It's pathetic what they say. They even mentioned two stolen Cups... Ανακαλύπτουν σφαγές εκεί που δεν υπάρχουν χαροποιώντας τον Ολυμπιακό που θέλει να περάσει το παραμύθι ότι ο ΠΑΟΚ έχει παράγκα. Κρίμα για την ΑΕΚ, μία πραγματικά μεγάλη ομάδα, πολύ μεγαλύτερη από τον ΠΑΟΚ, να έχει φτάσει σε τέτοια επικοινωνιακά χάλια!

Nothing can help me pash... @PaokCT were did you spend most of your life? Which games you've been at Toumba or elsewhere?

Η ομάδα πολύ αγχωμένη. Κακά τελειώματα από τον Σφιντέρσκι ξανά. Πολύ κρίμα να μην μπορούμε να βασιστούμε στον επιθετικό μας ότι θα σκοράρει. Επίσης τραγικό τελείωμα του Μπίσεσβαρ. Γενικά όλες οι επιθετικές μας ενέργειες είχαν πολύ άγχος και δεν παίξαμε όπως θα έπρεπε. Η ΑΕΚ θα μπορούσε να ισοφαρίσει και να είχαμε άλλα τραγούδια τώρα... Απορώ γιατί διαμαρτύρεται η ΑΕΚ. Σε ποια φάση αδικήθηκε; Δεν ήταν κόκκινες; Δεν ήταν πέναλτι; Τι σκατά θέλουν;

Welcome PaokCT! Give us some background ... Dick size (in cm is better), thickness etc... I mean, where are you from, age, PAOK relationship etc...

Αυτή τη στιγμή υπάρχουν διαθέσιμα περίπου 1,300 εισιτήρια 750 στη θύρα 8 75 στη θύρα 6 500 στις θύρες 1-2-3

It's interesting they would go for El Kaddouri. I mean is you compare his numbers at PAOK with Shakhov's there are not even close. And if Shakhov barely makes it as a sub, what would they expect El Kaddouri to do there? Edit: And they have Tachtsidis who is a starter!!!

It's getting out of topic and I apologize, but I think overall Greece doesn't produce any good goalkeepers. Glykos, Barkas, Sifakis, Dioudis, Pashalakis, Karnezis, Kapino and whoever else... All good, but not enough to lead a time like PAOK or Olympiakos or AEK. Maybe Vlachodimos will be the one, but is already abroad!