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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    Prosecutor Panagiotis Pouliou has released his findings concerning the 2011 match fixing/betting scandal and has proposed that the following 93 are being accused of taking part and should stand trial. Some of the notable people in question are in bold.
  2. VS MATCHUP: P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki - Olympiakos Piraeus COMPETITION: Superleague – Round 20 DATE: 10-February-2019 TIME: 19:30 EET (17:30 GMT, 11:30 CST, 04:30 AEDT next day) CITY/STADIUM: Thessaloniki – Toumba Stadium (28,703) REFEREES: Gil manzano Jesus - Raul Cabanero Martinez, Barbero Sevilla Diego (Spain) TELEVISION: Novasport 1 (Greece, Cyprus, Albania, Bulgaria), Sport Plus (USA, Canada/Australia), PAOK TV (Except Greece, Cyprus, Albania) P.A.O.K. vs Olympiakos history: Superleague 2017-2018: 0:3 - Attendance: 24,717 (Olympiakos won on forfeit as they got scared to play the game) 2016-2017: 2:0 (Shakhov, Prijovic) - Attendance: 26,379 2015-2016: 0:2 - Attendance: 25,674 2014-2015: 0:0 - Attendance: 24,411 2013-2014: 2:1 (Athanasiadis, Tzavellas) - Attendance: 23,344 2012-2013: 1:1 (Athanasiadis) - Attendance: 23,023 2011-2012: 0:2 - Attendance: 18,299 2010-2011: 2:1 (Koutsianikoulis, Vitolo-p) - Attendance: 20,023 2009-2010: 1:0 (Muslimovic) - Attendance: 24,109 (PLAYOFFS) 2009-2010: 1:2 (Vieirinha) - Attendance: 24,109 2008-2009: 0:0 - Attendance: 22,214 2007-2008: 1:1 (Gonzales) - Attendance: 22,000 2006-2007: 2:3 (Mieciel, Torghelle) - Attendance: 23,483 2005-2006: 1:2 (Shikabala) - Attendance: 7,050 Alpha Ethniki (Professional) 2004-2005: 1:1 (Salpiggidis) - Attendance: 23,950 2003-2004: 0:2 - Attendance: no fans 2002-2003: 1:1 (Georgiadis-p) - Attendance: 22,296 2001-2002: 1:1 (Spasic) - Attendance: 22,200 2000-2001: 2:4 (Nalitzis, Frousos) - Attendance: 5,723 1999-2000: 0:2 - Attendance: 25,550 1998-1999: 1:2 (Frantzeskos) - Attendance: 25,858 (match abandoned in 83rd minute) 1997-1998: 2:1 (Franzeskos, Toursounidi) - Attendance: 26,471 1996-1997: 0:0 - Attendance: 35,850 1995-1996: 0:0 - Attendance: 6,699 (played at Trikala) 1994-1995: 3:0 (Bocziek 2, Kapetanopoulos) - Attendance: 26,404 1993-1994: 1:1 (Luhovy) - Attendance: 10,291 1992-1993: 0:0 - Attendance: 7,988 1991-1992: 1:2 (Lagonidis) - Attendance: 8,577 (end of the 21 year Olympiakos winless streak at Toumba) 1990-1991: 3:2 (Skartados 2, Alexiou) - Attendance: 17,870 1989-1990: 4:1 (Skartados 2, Lagonidis, Alexoulis-p) - Attendance: 17,169 1988-1989: 1:0 (Karasavidis) - Attendance: 32,112 1987-1988: 6:1 (Borbokis 2, Bannon, Mavromatis, Siggas, Baniotis) - Attendance: 10,827 (played in Serres) 1986-1987: 4:1 (Skartados-p, Baniotis, Alexandridis, Papaioannou) - Attendance: 40,718 1985-1986: 1:0 (Orfanos) - Attendance: 24,970 1984-1985: 1:0 (Kostikos-p) - Attendance: 41,073 1983-1984: 4:0 (Dimopoulos, Koudas, Skartados, Kostikos) - Attendance: 13,138 (played in Serres) 1982-1983: 1:1 (Guerino) - Attendance: 33,334 1981-1982: 3:0 (Dimopoulos 2, own) - Attendance: 22,744 1980-1981: 1:0 (Vasilakos) - Attendance: 21,359 (Gyula Lorant, PAOK coach suffers heart attack and dies on the bench during this match) 1979-1980: 2:0 (Kostikos, Kermanidis) - Attendance: 36.016 Alpha Ethniki (Amateur/Semi-Professional) 1978-1979: 2:0 (Orfanos 2) - Attendance: 25,362 1977-1978: 1:0 (Guerino) - Attendance: 30,477 1976-1977: 2:1 (Guerino, Kermanidis) - Attendance: 45,147 1975-1976: 3:1 (Kermanidis, Sarafis, Guerino) - Attendance: 33,378 1974-1975: 2:0 (Kermanidis, Terzanidis) - Attendance: 37,448 1973-1974: 1:0 (Sarafis) - Attendance: 42,976 1972-1973: 1:0 (Gounaris) - Attendance: 42,150 1971-1972: 4:3 (Sarafis 2, Apostolidis, Manzourakis) - Attendance: 21,161 1970-1971: 0:0 - Attendance: 25,462 (beginning of the 21 year Olympiakos winless streak at Toumba) 1969-1970: 1:2 (Afentoulidis-p) - Attendance: 35,740 1968-1969: 2:1 (Koudas 2) - Attendance: 26,745 1967-1968: 1:0 (Charalambidis) - Attendance: 26,446 1966-1967: 2:0 (Afentoulidis 2) - Attendance: 31,504 1965-1966: 3:2 (Koudas, Afentoulidis, Charalambidis) - Attendance: 22,736 1964-1965: 0:4 - Attendance: 17,309 1963-1964: 0:0 - Attendance: 18,884 1962-1963: 2:2 (Vasiliadios, Savvidis) - Attendance: 19,510 1961-1962: 0:1 - Attendance: ? 1960-1961: 0:2 - Attendance: ? 1959-1960: 2:0 (Leandros, Katikaridis) - Attendance: 14,050 Panhellenic Championship 1958-1959: 2:3 (Kalogiannis, Kiourtzis)- Attendance: 10,000 1957-1958: 1:0 (Leandros) - Attendance: ? 1956-1957: 2:1 (Kouiroukidis 2)- Attendance: 15,000 1955-1956: 1:2 (Gentzis)- Attendance: ? 1954-1955: 2:3 (Papadakis, Gentzis)- Attendance: ? 1953-1954: 1:2 (Gentzis)- Attendance: ? 1947-1948: 0:3 - Attendance: ? 1936-1937: 1:5 (Bostanzoglou) - Attendance: ? 1935-1936: 2:2 (?)- Attendance: ? 1931-1932: 0:2 - Attendance: ? 1930-1931: 3:0 (Papagiordanidis, Pazaroglou, Biblis)- Attendance: ? GAMES: 71 WINS: 33 TIES: 16 LOSSES: 22
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    PAOK In Other Sports

    Besides Football PAOK is involved in other sports as well. Let's discuss those sports in this thread. PAOK participates in the following sports: Boxing Chess Cycling Figure Skating Football Handball Ice Hockey Swimming Swimming, Technical Tae Kwon Do Track & Field Volleyball Water polo Weightlifting Wrestling The web site of Amateur PAOK is http://acpaok.gr/ , but it rarely gets updated.
  4. VS MATCHUP: Apollon Smyrnis - P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki COMPETITION: Superleague – Round 21 DATE: 18-February-2019 TIME: 19:00 EST (17:00 GMT, 11:00 CST, 04:00 AEDT next day) CITY/STADIUM: Athens - Rizoupoli Stadium (14,856) REFEREES: TELEVISION: ERT Sports HD, ERT 1 (Greece), ERT Sports HD, ERT 1, ERT World web streams (worldwide) Apollon Smyrnis vs. PAOK history: Superleague 2017-2018: 0:0 - Attendance: 1,913 2013-2014: 3:3 (Lucas 2, Katsikas) - Attendance: 1,855 Alpha Ethniki (Professional) 1999-2000: 3:4 (Nalitzis 2, Frousos, Kafes) - Attendance: ? 1998-1999: 1:4 (Tacola, Toursounidis, Katsabis, Cominguez) - Attendance: 719 1997-1998: 4:4 (Cominguez 2, Frantzeskos, Nagbe) - Attendance: ? 1996-1997: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1995-1996: 0:1 (Zouboulis) - Attendance: 1,186 1994-1995: 2:1 (Alexiou) - Attendance: ? 1993-1994: 3:1 (Dermitzakis-p) - Attendance: ? 1992-1993: 2:1 (Djurdjevic) - Attendance: ? 1991-1992: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1990-1991: 4:2 (H. Hassan, I. Hassan) - Attendance: ? 1989-1990: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1988-1989: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1986-1987: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1985-1986: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1984-1985: 1:3 (Damanakis 2, Skartados) - Attendance: ? (played at Nea Filadelfia) 1983-1984: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1982-1983: 2:1 (Vasilakos) - Attendance: ? 1981-1982: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1980-1981: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1979-1980: 1:0 - Attendance: 3,376 Alpha Ethniki (Amateur/Semi-Professional) 1978-1979: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1977-1978: 1:1 (Pathiakakis) - Attendance: ? 1976-1977: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1975-1976: 0:1 (Sarafis) - Attendance: ? 1973-1974: 0:1 (Paridis) - Attendance: ? 1971-1972: 0:1 (Sarafis) - Attendance: 8.814 1970-1971: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1968-1969: 1:1 (Sarafis) - Attendance: 13,000 1967-1968: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1966-1967: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1965-1966: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1964-1965: 1:2 (Charalambidis 2) - Attendance: 4,000 1963-1964: 2:1 (Koudas) - Attendance: ? 1962-1963: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1961-1962: 2:0 - Attendance: 2,621 1960-1961: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1959-1960: 2:1 (Leandros) - Attendance: ? Panhellenic Championship 1957-1958: 0:0 (?) - Attendance: ? 1956-1957: 3:1 (Chalkias) - Attendance: ? 1955-1956: 2:1 (?) - Attendance: ? 1954-1955: 2:1 (?) - Attendance: ? 1947-1948: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1935-1936: 3:3 (?) - Attendance: ? 1931-1932: 0:1 (Lazarou) - Attendance: ? 1930-1931: 0:1 (?) - Attendance: ? GAMES: 47 WINS: 10 TIES: 13 LOSSES: 24
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    PAE PAOK General News

    During a General Assembly of PAE PAOK today, Ivan Savvidis increased the operating budget by 19.5 million Euro. Some of this money will be in a form of a loan from Dimera to PAE PAOK. reports say that eventually the loan will be turned into shares of the team. 11.4 million from this will be used pay off the team's debt to the government. The rest will be used to cover the operating loss for the last season.
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    Ref who willingly manipulates the match report so a certain team wins the game on paper and you say it has nothing to do with officiating? And then we have a ref who changes his decision after five minutes of being mobbed by the players, and then after one hour in the dressing room changes his decision again, and then fails to appear before the athletic judge to explain himself and you're telling me this has nothing to do with officiating? I always knew Olympiakos and PAO are the same corrupt scum. You can add AEK to it as well. POK has been around since 1930's.
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    SL–R20: PAOK - Olympiakos (10-Feb-19, 19:30 EET)

    EPO does not get any of the money. Superleague does, and we know they don't spend it right.
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    PAE PAOK General News

    For less than 12 mil we can find a mid that is as good if not better than Oliveira. Oliveira played two games for as so far. It will take more time to have a clear picture. As for Jaba, if we play in CL and he is good, then some team will offer something close to the 20 mil buyout clause. Jaba should stay on the team for at least one more season. Same goes for Akpom.
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    For somebody that proclaimed that does not watch Superleague these day you sure like to throw out BS about officiating. There will always be bad officiating. What needs to be changed is that the bad officiating is not intentional and favoring one team. Since you have not been watching the games, you should know that we now have foreign refs in the big games. And surprisingly Olympiakos and AEK have not won a game yet with the foreign refs. That's one step forward. Next step should be foreign refs in all the games. And it's not just the officiating that needs to change. The whole structure of Greek football needs to change. And no, PAOK is not getting favorable calls. AEK is. If you watched any games you would know.
  10. Let the rumors begin ...
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    We know those two teams don't give a s%$#! about the product. They did anything in order to get their hands on CL money using any means possible. However those two make up only 50% of the fan base as you claim. What about the other 50%? They don't matter? As a result you get a league that is one of the worst in Europe. The best solution is to have PAO, Olympiakos and even AEK play in 3-team league and play each other 20 time during the season and let the other teams play in a regular clean competition.
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    PAOK In Other Sports

    Also woman's handball team is playing in Greek Cup final on Saturday against Anagennisi Artas.
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    Yeah that's when the big two that destroyed the game in Greece were supported by either a hefty TV contract from government owned broadcaster and the other one from government phone company. Since the 2008 economy crash that kind of money is no longer available. Heck the whole country is bankrupt and you expect somebody to really pour money into a product that can't be trusted. Unless it is somebody that is crazy and pours in money because of his hobby. The first thing that needs to be fixed is to make the product trustworthy and corruption free. I don't see any indication that this will happen anytime soon.
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    Greek Indoor Championhips

    The 2019 Panhellenic Indoor Championships took place over the weekend. Olympiakos won the men's division and GS Kifisia the women's division. Top 3 Standings: MEN 1. Olympiakos Piraeus 75 points 2. GS Trikala 43 2. GS Kifisia 30 WOMEN 1. GS Kifisia 67 points 2. GS Eleftherios Venizelos 27 3. Panellinios Athens 25 Notable performances: 60M: Zikos 6.62 seconds 60 M Hurdles: Douvalidis 7.70 seconds 5,000 M Walk: Papamichail 19:31.02 minutes Pole Vault: Karalis 5.70 meters Long Jump: Tentoglou 8.19 meters Shot Put: Skarvelis 20.11 meters 60M: Spanoudaki 7.35 seconds High Jump: Gousin 1.94 meters Pole Vault: Polak 4.50 meters
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    SL–R21: Apollon Smyrnis - PAOK (18-Feb-19, 19:00 EET)

    Giannoulis to serve his second game ban due to the 7 yellow cards in this game.
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    PAOK Players on Loan

    I think he is the only loaned player that has any chance of making the team next season.
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    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    I hope Ivan does reject it. From what I read PAOK wants to keep Superleague with 16 teams with a current format. The problem is the other teams will probably vote for the playoff format since the teams will be 14 starting next season. About two weeks ago AEK proposed a system, where the 14 teams competition would be played in 3 stages. Stage one would be 13 rounds of games. At the end on first stage, the teams in the standings finishing in the odd positions would play six rounds. Same thing would happen with the teams finishing in even positions. After the second stage the team would play another set of 13 rounds of games (the return legs of stage one). I am no making this up. It was an actual proposal during the last Superleague general meeting.
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    2018-2019 Greek Cup

    The draw for the group stage of the 2018-2019 Greek Cup takes tomorrow. PAOK is seeded as one of the top 8 teams. Each of the 8 groups will include 2 SL teams. The remaining teams will be the teams that qualified from the qualifying rounds. In the group stage the SL teams will play one home game and 2 away games. SEEDED TEAMS: PAOK, AEX, Olympiakos, Atromitros, Asteras Tripoli, AO Xanthi, Panionios, Panaitolikos REST OF SL TEAMS: PAS Giannina, Levadeiakos, Panathinaikos, Larisa, Lamia, Apollon Smyrnis, Aris, OFI THE REMAINING 16: Football League teams: Irodotos, NPS Volos, Ergotelis, Iraklis, Aititos Spata, Kerkyra, Apollon larisa, Apollon Pontou, Panahaiki Patra, Kissamikos, Trikala 3rd Division teams: Niki Volos, Aris Avatou, Ierapetra, Apollon Paralimni, Thyella Kamariou
  19. Since the old Macedonia topic has disappeared I started this topic to continue the discussion on the subject.
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    SL–R20: PAOK - Olympiakos (10-Feb-19, 19:30 EET)

    3:1 Final This is the championship.
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    SL–R20: PAOK - Olympiakos (10-Feb-19, 19:30 EET)

    Akpom deserved that goal.
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    SL–R20: PAOK - Olympiakos (10-Feb-19, 19:30 EET)

    El Kaddouri is having a great game today except for some bad fouls.
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    SL–R20: PAOK - Olympiakos (10-Feb-19, 19:30 EET)

    Need to play it carefully in 2nd half. Still we are in good position. Olympiakos needs one result only and that is a win. Tie does not do them any good. They will open up and we could have a field day. As it is their defense is suspect today with Biseswar having a great game.
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