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Posts posted by Dean97

  1. I agree with most of the things you say. I don’t think Manolas and Sokratis will be back anytime soon. So they are out. I’ve read in the past that Van’t Schip wants a left footed CB. That’s why we’ve seen Siovas and Stafylidis play there. Stafylidis doesn’t cut it as a CB so he shouldn’t play there. Siovas will most likely get the spot. 

    He was also thinking of playing Kyriakopoulos in the friendlies as a LCB. I think he would be better than Stafylidis there. Time will tell.

    For RB, I would try different options like Marinakis, Masouras and Lyratzis (who plays for Volos and seems like he’s got something.) We can all agree Bakakis doesn’t cut it for us at RB. Maybe Retsos should play there also. At LB were are fine and well assured with Giannoulis and Tsimikas. 

    For the midfield, I think we have to just accept who we’ve got. Kourbelis is a decent number 6 who can shield the defence better than most of the midfielders we have and has lots of energy and some speed to him. I think he is the workhorse of our midfield. In recent Superleague games he scored and provided a couple of assists. He isn’t the best in attack but seems like he is getting better. We need someone (a box to box CM) next to him that can move the ball forward well and attack. Maybe we should put Mantalos deeper in CM to help with this. Someone more dynamic. I would like to see how Vasiliadis does. I also like Siopis, I don’t think we should give up on him. 

    Im also not sure how Chatzigiovannis will be for Greece. He looks good in the league but I’m not sure if he is truly cut out for the big stage. Time will tell with him. The only thing that can convince people about him is if he lifts those numbers up in assists and goals. I rate Lazaros Lamprou more. Limnios is good, proven it with PAOK and Greece. He’s still young but has been consistently playing with PAOK for the past 2 seasons. He is still developing and is propably one of our best wingers. Which then leads me to Fetfatzidis. You can’t count this guy out. He’s had a great season for Aris and was voted fans MVP of the season. Has been consistent in his performances this season and is definitely a great impact sub to have. That’s if Van’t Schip doesn’t put him in the starting lineup.

    Upfront, Fountas had the best season of his life. Scoring 20 goals and 8 assists or something. Definitely needs to be given a shot. Pavlidis has some competition now. I still believe Donis is important for Greece. Bakasetas has transformed himself this season and seems like a different player. Let’s hope he keeps getting better and better. We also have Fortounis and Pelkas (if he ever decides to pull up his sleeves and get to work.)

    Also at keeper Vlachodimos and Barkas are the ones that standout, but Dioudis, Paschalakis and Mandas can force their way in if they continue their good form. 

  2. 4 hours ago, paokarag4 said:

    If it helps his case, he again scored the winner today in Rapid's 0-1 win over Hartberg. That moves Rapid 7 points clear of 3rd placed LASK and within 5 points of 1st placed RB Salzburg. They look to certain to participate in next seasons Champions league (qualifiers) and are still in the hunt for the title. 

    That's 17 goals this season to go along with his 5 assists (in the league) Apparently he was subbed off with an injury in the 2nd half but not sure if that's true/how serious it is. 

    Hopefully it’s not too serious. Was gaining great momentum and can be a serious player for Greece...

  3. On 5/29/2020 at 5:46 AM, Boxou said:

    Only problem is we are talking about finishing a player from the NT in the age of 32 and replacing with someone, who definitely is talented as looks to have a bright career but at the moment cant be considered as a proven international player and if I recall correctly he is seriously injured?

    I do agree about Stafylidis' level being dropped down, although I can see him going back to PAOK since they are looking to sell Giannoulis and Stafylidis would be a perfect replacement. Kyriakopoulos of Sassuolo had had a great season with them, so did Tsimikas. Lykogiannis lost his place in Calgiari while Koutris at Mallorca got seriously injured and will be back from loan to Olympiakos in a few months. Has to work hard to earn a spot there. The one who I'm not sold yet is Giannoulis imo, he is literally worse than Kyriakopoulos and Tsimikas in every aspect but he keeps starting over them?

    Btw a player who needs to be in the next call ups should be Fountas of Rapid Wien, he has scored 14 goals in the Austrian League this season and definitely needs to be higher in the rotation than freaking Chatzigiovannis, Pelkas and so on...

    For the 1st paragraph, if your talking about Hatzidiakos then for me he has proven he’s got what it takes. The goals we copped were mostly from Stafylidis errors in my opinion. The goals Italy scored was from Bouchalakis hand ball and a shot from range which should’ve been closed down from our midfielders.

    Giannoulis has convinced me that he is good. Before I didn’t think he was good but after seeing him play I can say he has got a big future ahead of him. We are lucky to have a good amount of depth at LB. RB is the problem. 

    Ive always likes Fountas has got energy and is capable of scoring goals. Also he has a lot of courage. He can play many positions like CAM, Wing and ST. He is also very fast which is another positive. 

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  4. 3 hours ago, Boxou said:

    We lost to Italy with freaking Anastasiadis in the bench who used Siovas as a freaking CDM..If the Dutch keeps using Stafylidis as a CB we are going to consider much more goals like the one against Finland where he, as a last player tried to dribble their CF Pukki who naturally stole the ball and scored. And that happened a couple of times I think. There are 2 world class level Cbs around and a coach who keeps on using Stafylidis who has been dropped yet again from his team, Hoffenheim this time.

    Here's a pool of around 30 players that Imo should roll over the squad.

    Vlachodimos, Barkas, Paschalakis

    Tsimikas, Stafylidis, Giannoulis

    Sokratis, Siovas, Retsos

    Manolas, Chatzidiakos

    Mpakakis, Kyriakopoulos

    Kourmpelis, Bouchalakis, Vasileiadis

    Samaris, Zeca, Galanopoulos

    Fortounis, Mpakasetas, Mantalos

    Donis, Fetfatzidis

    Limnios, Chatzigiovannis

    Pavlidis, Mitroglou, Koulouris


    It's a total shame he has dropped Mitroglou, Manolas and Sokratis. With a real coach and not clowns like Anastasiadis they could be essential for the next WC campaign. Skibbe was bad and obsessed the a point he choose Tzavellas over Cholevas and made the latter retire, but truth to be told we were a far inferior side compared to our opposition of Croatia and Belgium.


    No doubt Manolas and Sokratis are at the highest level of all Greek players. But sometimes just because they are good doesn’t mean they are good for the team. Both had problems with Anastasiadis and EPO. We don’t know what happens behind the scenes but with these guys we haven’t got anywhere since Karagounis and Katsouranis retired. We started playing better football without them.

    They are not bigger than the team. Hatzidiakos has convinced me that he can take Sokratis spot and do an even better job. The problem lies with Stafylidis at CB and Bakakis at RB. Both of these guys aren’t great defenders and with them in the same backline we could be asking for trouble. Manolas or Mavropanos have to take Stafylidis spot. At RB we need to find a more capable replacement in my opinion. 

    Mitroglou is washed up. Time to move on. Samaris hasn’t been influential for Greece for the past 4-5 years. With Vasiliadis in the team I think Zeca’s days are numbered. 

    I am assuming JVS is trying to find a replacement for Kourbelis. That’s if Kiomourtzoglou decides to play for Greece. 

    I think he likes Hatzidiakos, Galanopoulos, Pavlidis and Limnios. They all played well. 

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  5. On 5/22/2020 at 1:17 PM, Boxou said:

    If Manolas and Sokratis are done from NT I cant wait to see this guy who pretends to be the coach to be humiliated by any serious opposition he will face in the future. You probably havent noticed that Stafylidis sample as a CB was dreadful and he is going to use it again because of his huge ego, closing the door to our best players. Chatzidiakos tore his ACL while I have not seen Siovas (?) anywhere near the call ups who had another full season in Spain and could probably return to Olympiakos this summer.


    I think we should give JVS a chance. We did well against Italy the second time around with a different team. We had our chances to score and didn’t take them. We lost to Italy at home 3-0 with Sokratis and Manolas. We’re better off having players who are humble and willing to fight for the jersey. I agree Stafylidis shouldn’t be at CB and Manolas is needed. But I like said before if Manolas is not willing to give his best than it’s better to have him off the team. 

  6. Good points by everyone. All I want to say is that Hatzidiakos has proven to be a very good CB. We looked much better playing out from the back. It’s mostly because of him. He is good technically which helps with our build up play. Sokratis should be done with the national team. I see Mavropanos, Retsos and Hatzidiakos all competing for that spot now. 

    For me Manolas is a must in the team. His speed and all round play is needed. If he doesn’t want to play then don’t worry about him, if he does then he has to abide by what the coach wants. Out of the 2 Manolas is needed most. 

  7. On 5/8/2020 at 1:12 AM, J1078 said:

    Here is a recent article where JVS is talking about player selections and who wasn't called up for the friendlies in the US before it got cancelled. I think by this article we can honestly say Socratis, Manolas and Mitro are all done from the NT. You can see where he was asked about Socraits and Manolos  and he responded "we want players that will give 100% to the team"  That statement shows that these two were a big problem for the NT and he wants to move forward with new young talent and not moving backwards,



    I think they are done. Every time he’s asked about them he talks about having passion and they have to want to play for the team. I get this feeling that Manolas and Sokratis don’t want to be in the team anymore. Mitroglou is propably the same. Haven’t heard anything in the news about how they want to come back and give 100%. 

    I think others like Zeca, Samaris and Fortounis nights have a chance of returning. If Fortounis comes back he has to give 100%. This team gives 100% effort and they don’t stop running. Fortounis has to do the same, otherwise he shouldn’t play. We look like we are going into the direction of playing players in the age region of 18-26. A few exceptions maybe here or there. Most of the players he was going to call up were players in that age region.

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  8. I like how he said that “clubs don’t give young talented players a chance and that we have to work on this.” This is very important. We have recently seen the emergence of Tsimikas who has improved and performed very well this season. Has Champions and Europa Legaye experience and major sides are looking at him. We need the big 4 to trust the young Greek youth. I hope players like Androutsos, Risvanis, and even the players coming up form the youth side have more of an opportunity to play European football. 

    It helps this with there growth and will help the national team. This is key in my opinion.


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  9. Yeah I wouldn’t bring Sokratis back. I believe Hatzidiakos should take his place. Hatzidiakos could be our future captain. I would bring back Manolas though. The reason being is that Retsos and Mavropanos haven’t done enough to warrant a starting spot. Also Stafylidis isn’t made for CB.

    Also we have too many talented LBs and Stafylidis isn’t one of them. Maybe he should be a bench player. Fortounis to me is lazy. He needs to do more and that’s the one thing that’s holding him back. Podence has said on Instagram. Talented player but is lazy. We don’t need that in this new Greece squad. I’d only be willing to have Fortounis back if he works harder. 


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  10. Hey guys I just been wondering for a while and would like to know where everyone stands on this topic...

    What do you guys think of Stafylidis as captain? 

    Should he be captain going forward? 

    Where do we put him if Sokratis and Manolas do return?

    Should he change position? Maybe LW or even CDM/CM?

    I know some like him here and some don’t but I’m just going to say that I do think he has a place in the squad. I don’t think he should be at LB because we have a lot of good talent there such as Tsimikas and Giannoulis. Even Kyriakopoulos is up there. He’s also made mistakes there. 

    I wouldn’t put him at RB. Wouldn’t seem right to put him there since he is left footed.

    I also wouldn’t put him on the wings. In my opinion I think he can be a great CDM or CM. Maybe he should come off the bench and provide some of his great long shots as that is his best attribute in my opinion. He isn’t a bad passer either. He has great energy, determination and seems to really care about Greece. I don’t think he can be overlooked. 

    At the same time I’m 50/50 on whether he is starter or a bench player. I do see some good qualities. I think we should put him somewhere where we could best utilise his strengths. 

    What are everyone else’s thoughts and suggestions? 

  11. 2 hours ago, AchillesHeel said:

    Tactically I think Schippy wanted some brawns and grit in the 10 spot and Bakasetas delivered. I think Bakasetas works his a$$ off in practice, has a positive attitude and gains the trust of the coaches in that way (they can't all be crazy or paid off)....probably Staf as well...I can't see any other reason and it would have been easy to drop both these players a while back when things looked grim, right now both have played an important part in the turn around of the NT. A successful team is greater than the sum of all its parts....if you win with Bakasetas as a 10 or a 9 and Staf as CB, you would be inclined to continue using them at these positions if they are effective although I think JVS has an evolving attitude towards the players. A win justifies the decisions a coach makes and a loss brings criticism....it's as simple as that. Also Bakasetas has had a very good year in Turkey and has been playing very well lately regardless of his shortcomings. I think the Schipster is trying to balance things out so the team can function as an ensemble and not as a group of individuals who are chosen only on the basis of their talent/skill.

    Thanks for your reply. It makes sense the way you put it. I trust JVS. I think he sees the bigger picture and knows what he has to do. We have seen a massive improvement with the teams performances and that’s without our “big stars”, which says a lot. I’m very eager to see what he has planned later this month. 

  12. @AchillesHeel

    What do you think the reason is for JVS having played Bakasetas at CAM and Mantalos on the left? Even though Bakasetas has done slightly better under JVS I still think Mantalos or even Fetfa should’ve been the 10. I personally would’ve played Mantalos at CAM and someone else on the left. Maybe Fetfa or Masouras. 

    From what I saw in the last 4 games Bakasetas is strong physically and doesn’t get pushed off the ball easily unlike Fortounis. Bakasetas has a great shot and is capable of playing a simple game. He also works hard off the ball.

    The things that I don’t like about him is that he loses the ball most of the time either misplacing a pass or losing the ball when it’s at his feet. He is also a slow player physically and also mentally. I find it a bit hard to justify the reason for him being in the 10 spot for the last 4 games even though we’ve been playing better. 

  13. 5 hours ago, AchillesHeel said:

    Personally, I like both Manolas and Sokratis, though they both displayed a crappy attitude with Anastasiades. The problem is that we can't build any play up the middle due to the fact that our DMs are hardworking, ditch digging types who have very little ability in terms of building up the game, so JVS put Hatzidiakos and Staf (who are pretty good at moving the ball) in the back and that proved to make a huge difference. Sok and Man don't provide that aspect of the game and if you have players like Zeca, Kourbelis, Galanopoulos etc. as a shield in front of the CBs the defensive capabilities of Sok and Man are not as valuable as being able to move the ball and transition the play.

    This is spot on. This is why I have praised Hatzidiakos. He’s able to build play from the back. Stafylidis is good at this aswell. Manolas and Sokratis seemed inadequate in this aspect of the game. Defensively they are untouchable. But as time goes on it makes more sense playing Manolas next to Hatzidiakos in the future. There are a lot of question marks regarding Manolas and Sokratis attitude towards the national team. 

    I was hoping back then that Tachtsidis would be the type of DM who can build play from the middle but he is way too inconsistent and very limited in most aspects his game. Anyways I believe JVS knows what he has to do as he has plans in place.

  14. 12 hours ago, Jimmyp said:

    I agree with these points. The one thing I’d like to point out is that Stafylidis may not be great at the cb position, the team has been playing much better with him as the leader. That to me says a lot. Maybe he’s a passionate locker room guy that the guys listen to. Who knows? We’re not in the locker room. But I’m pretty sure he has been chosen because he’s got leadership abilities. Which in my opinion is a great thing to have. 

    I agree with what your saying. He hasn’t been playing bad either. He does seem like a good leader. The team needs good leaders and he could be one of them. I just don’t know if he should be taking someone else’s spot just because he is a good leader. Clearly JVS knows what he’s doing and I trust his judgement.


  15. On 3/2/2020 at 12:23 AM, Rockafeller Skank said:

    None of these players have the calibre of our usual Defenders.

    I don't know why he is trying alchemy in the only line that we have obvious talent.

    Make big talks with Sokratis Manolas Siovas for their return. Like real big talk. 

    Integrate Retsos, Hatzidiakos, Mavropanos (Dude is like the fly in the milk pou leme kiolas in 2. Bundesliga).

    Leftback with Stafylidis (also can be used as CB also I'd rather not) Tsimikas and Giannoulis/Koutris we are fine.

    Right back is a question with Retsos being the #1 option in my opinion. Bakakis because we literally have noone else.

    Midfielders like Kourbelis , Siopis should be obvious starters with their appearances. Sebastian Vasiliadis is a question but according to Germans he was one of the main reasons Paderborn promoted to 1. Bundesliga. Might be nice to see if he ends up somewhere better this summer when they demote.  Slowly reestablish Zeka who doesn't have much time left with this NT. I am okay with Galanopoulos but I really think Siopis plays in a quite harder league and doing amazing appearances, so I'd rather have him despite him not being much of a help in transition. Rotation with Bouchalakis seems necessary.

    Fortounis our only trully decent 10. Wingers like Limnios , Donis, Masouras, Chatzigiovanis, Lamprou are alright. Bakasetas is a waste at the wings. Either play him CF (where he is also a waste) or Second Striker/AttackingMidf. 

    Pavlidis has shown the best results in the striker position but trully we are way too poor in that position. I can't be 100% hopefull for this lad yet. Another player who seems to be scoring me to tsouvali is exAEK player Taxiarchis Fountas. Koulouris should also be included because I haven't lost hope to that guy yet.


    Vlachodimos, Dioudis, and some other goalie.

    There we are. The only players who have trully shown something over the years.


    I agree with what your saying. Hatzidiakos to me has earned a spot in this team. I see too many positives with this guy and will get even better. 

    I can’t see how Stafylidis fits in this team. We are stacked at LB with Tsimikas and Giannoulis having great seasons respectively. Koutris is another solid option but unfortunately is injured for 6 months... I’d go with either Tsimikas or Giannoulis. At CB we have too much talent there as we have mentioned.

    The only option available for Stafylidis in my opinion is if we play him at CDM. Has got a great shot, decent passer and can be aggressive when needed. I don’t think he will play there though. It confuses me how he has been chosen as captain as we have plenty of other players who are better than him. I don’t mind him as a player I think he can offer some good things like I mentioned, but I don’t think he should take someone’s spot, especially at CB and LB. 

    Siopis has something to offer in midfield. But with Galanopoulos and Vasiliadis at our disposal I don’t think it’s a good idea to have 3 CMs who are 5ft7. I don’t know I have this thing where you need at least someone who is tall enough to win headers in midfield and someone who can wi those battles and not leave it all to the CBs. All 3 are not that much different. I want to see more of Vasiliadis play. At the same time I don’t think Bouchalakis and Kourbelis are the answer. 

    Donis is great on the wing and at striker. I believe we are lucky to have a player like him. By far our fastest player. We’ve got heaps of wide options but we fail to use them. Limnios has been fantastic for us. I know Mantalos is important to have and he is but can’t we try him in his natural position at CAM... Bakasetas has done better in his last few games, but that’s because you can’t put him anywhere else. Fortounis needs to continue where he left off. 

    Then we have players like Fetfatzidis and Lamprou who offer plenty of speed and skill with the ball. More so than who we’ve been playing in my opinion. They are lacking in defending which is the reason why I think they haven’t been fully trusted. I say give these 2 proper chances for Greece and you won’t be disappointed. 

    Other players like Pelkas, Samaris, Mitroglou and Tachtsidis need to do better with there clubs before they can be reconsidered in the team. 

    Also Pavlidis is a great player. Give him time and you’ll see what he’s about. Koulouris is alright. Not the biggest fan but I will give him more time. Fountas is on fire lately he should be called up. 

  16. 6 hours ago, Ellada2004 said:

    Been awhile since I posted but I think Manolas is still useful for the NT as his speed and challenges makes him difficult to play against. As for Sokratis his last game ironically vs Olympiakos was the best I have seen him play in quite sometime. He was asked by Greek reporters after the match if he would want back in to the NT. He didn’t rule out a return and said the NT needs calm now and acknowledge JVS has done a great job since he has taken over. 

    I love what Sokratis has given to the NT over the years from watching him frustrate Messi in the 2010 World Cup and then fast forward to the 2014 World Cup when he scored the dramatic equalizer vs CR. I just have a hard time getting over how he went after the last coach and how his actions basically costed Greece a vital three points vs Armenia and thus ruined our euro qualification.

    I think everything happens for a reason. Most likely for a good reason. Sokratis has given Greece a lot over the years. I still think he has something to offer after watching him lately. Manolas should be a lock in this team even though we shouldn’t be saying that. Everyone has to earn their spot. 

    I wouldn’t mind having them back.

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  17. 12 hours ago, Argy said:

    Sokratis is still playing at a very high level in England. He is still in the starting XI for me for the next campaign. 

    As for Manolas, it would be travesty to lose a player like that in his prime because of conflict with management. 

    I think both have problems with upper management. It would be a travesty if both don’t return. Sokratis has lots of experience and still playing at a high level and Manolas is in the prime of his career in a decent league with Napoli. Manolas speed alone is essential for the team. 

    I hope they return but if they don’t I have faith in Hatzidiakos and Retsos. Mavropanos has a lot to do to convince me that he can be our top defender but he is getting there and if it wasn’t for injuries he would be still at Arsenal and might’ve been an important player for them in my opinion. Hopefully all 3 stay injury free for the majority of their careers as they have great potential.

    Its unfortunate what has happened lately with K.Papadopoulos. 

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  18. 7 hours ago, Argy said:

    I hope that Manolas and Sokratis are back. 

    If they care about their country and heritage they should want to come back. They can’t do anything about changing the EPO. It is what it is, hopefully there is a change of management soon. Manolas would definitely be key to our success going forward. Sokratis, I don’t know. It seems like he isn’t where we need him to be anymore and Hatzidiakos or Mavropanos are good enough replacements in my opinion.

  19. On 2/7/2020 at 12:10 AM, paokarag4 said:

    According to this article JVS is considering calling up 7 "new" player for the friendlies in March. Pouggouras, Mavropanos, Kyriakopoulos and Lampropoulos (not exactly new) These 4 he's considering as Center backs, even though we know Kyriakopoulos as a left back it seems JVS really wants a left footed CB and thinks he can shift him into the center of defense similar to how he's done with Stafylidis. 

    He's also considering Marinakis (OFI) as cover for right back, as well as Tsilianidis and Xatzigiovanis to play on the wings. 


    I’m surprised Nikolaou is not on JVS list. He is left footed and a CB. Maybe he is needed for the u21s.

    Kyriakopoulos could do well there. He’s got the height for it aswell, unlike Stafylidis.

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