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Who I play Sunday..and yes I believe there are plent of goals in the Croat backline Mitro missed 2 headers and got one shot fingertipped Sokratis should have dne better with his 2nd header whol net was there for him..WE CAN DO IT ................Anestis (KARNEZIS 7 goals in his last 120minuts Watford Greece).... ...................Retsos.....Sokratis.......Manolas......... Toro...............Zeca..............Tachtsidis................Lykogiannis ...............................Pelkas......................Fortounis.............. .......................................Mitroglou............................. Anestis is a must start in any sport with a goalie..the team must have full confidence..WE cant ask our players to open it up with the way Karnezis is playing and for some reason a fresh golaie always gets a team to work twice as hard!! We need goals Stafylidis or Tzavellas offer zero going forward put WolfJohn in he is in form and more the modern back than Tzavellas I love stafylidis but he ha ZERO confidence. He showed it last game on the 1st goal he got the ball on a switch of play and was 1v1 with there RB rather than take him on and creata chance or get fouled he bottled it back to Tzziolis to the back breaking goal Donis Giannotas Lazaros Lyko would have bombed forward, Pelkas Fortounis give us 2 #10 style players who can create. If Skibbe doesnt make major changes Sunday and goes wit the same clowns then we know EPO call some shots.

tough to say there was such a disconnect between him and Mitro SKIBBE tactics were wrong..he hit some quality corners which could have got us 2 goals..we move onand hope he perfoms at home..his move back to Greece has stunted his development

Stamatiste with Stafylidis he is not in FORM right now. The 1st goal I put on him as much as Karnezis. He got the ball in a switch of play,..rai paithi mou take the RB on push the ball by him and run win a foul..BUT no form no confidence pushes the ball back to Tziolis to Tzavellas the end was there and then his gafa on the 4th..HE is not in form..should not have started our biggest game Gianota or Lazaro was the opion as lwb ....Lykogiannis is in form and a must start at LB on Sunday for me but he wont...Samaris another who should not touch the field Sunday Zeca Tachsi HOLDING with Lazaro Fortouni Gianota or Pelkas with Mitro who should have buried both headers he missed.

If your gonna park the proverbial bus please have players who will RUN and tackle THAT had to be the slowest 11da we have put out. Our keeper wa terrible but those back to back stops give us a punchers chance Sunday. The back line was a shambles Sokratis was the only CB who performed KPaps and Tzavellas were bad. Both outside backs were terrible hard to pick who was worst between Stafylidis and Maniatis. Both CDM were horrrible Samaris and Tziolis should not have been starters the pair of Zeca Taxi was easy guys who win tackles and can spray the passes. I had no problem with Zeca Fortounis and Mitro we created 5 decent chance scored on one Mitro should have scored on 1/2 headers and Socratis will look back on the 2nd header. To defend takes EFFORT you dont need talent just the will to play the managers tactics and F***en excute and run tackle win headers block shots I saw ZERO of that been watching the Ethniki since the late 80s and this was as lackluster a performance as any!! Skibbe coaches not to lose we saw that vs Estonia we saw it today. Yes we were missing 4 starters in Toro Manolas Donis Mandalos but to start that horseshit group is embarassing. To have players out of position gifting goals showing no spirit...Im sorry I believe a team reflects its manager there was NO Otto fight or Santos grit never say die..this team capitulated and had no balls. Retsos is a CB why not play HIM with Kpaps and Sokratis and play Lykogiannis RB who is used to going touchline to touchline as a LB ( dont use he is left footed Toro patrolled the LB position) he is miles better than Maniatis. Im sorry Giannotas Pelkas help on the outside and you can play Zeca in the midle of the park where he is more comfortable . Tachsi is slow but not slower thn Tziolis and he plays te ball way better than any #6 we have. Why isnt Bouchalakis on this squad! Why is Gianniotis from Atromitos not here having agreat year. TO the EPO now DROPEE that Tzavellas and Maniatis still get called after the fiasco in Brasil with the PAOK OLY bullshit!! Those 2 should have been gone right there instead they are inour lineup in a HUGE game. We never bleed the young ones instead when will we learn. Karnezis Stafylidis not playing 1st team football and it shows Samaris barely playing and it shows Kapino not playing CALLED up WHY..where is the backbone the fish smells from the head...if you dont play WHY are you being CALLED up. Worst part is I still have hope that an early goal in Athens..and ya never know..going to watch this disaster again this time with Englis announcers.

Thats the beauty of a campaign how its always balanced on the proverbial razors edge. He blew a chance at solidifying chances. HE BETTER take this game seriously a rout and the psyche of our Ethniki is frail at best...see last campaign. PAMAI GERA AVRIO

vs Belgium if Kpaps is fit ....................Karnezis...................... .....Sokratis.....Kpaps..........Manolas Lyko .....Samaris...........Taxi............Stafy .......Fortounis....Donis.......Mandalos

My GOD this game didnt need 2 holding mids Bouchalakis is in FORM and Tziolis Zeca are not at his level as well as Tachtsidis or Samaris Siopis the modern 6 must tackle and must play out of the back to link or switch the field Zeca Tziolis couldnt do it but THEY won headers 1960 soccer

Guys after yesterdays gutless performance if KPaps is healthy SKIBBE has no choice but to play 3 in the back and squeeze the life out of Lukaku. Sokratis Manolas Kyriako are 3 of our top 7 players THEY must all be on the pitch!! I have zero confidence in Skibbe..he looked like a refreshing change..we were pressing alot more than usual before yesterdays game HAS the EPO reared its ugly head again Retsos (out of position) Tziolis Tzavellas Zeca WHAT is happening here!! Play Lykogiannis RB yes I know he is Lfooted TORO played lb whats the difference he is a proper wingback play Stafy over Tzavellas OK he has no matchplay yet THEN WTF did he sub him on. Play Bouchlakis Samari or Taxi over the useless Zeca Tziolis combo. If on Sunday we scough a beating Skibbe should be sacked ASAP and the EPO must pay as well. ...........Karnezis.......... ....Sokrati Kpap Manolas Lyko Taxi Samris Stafy ......Fortoun Bouchalaki.. ..........Donis.............If Mitro is healthy 2nd half sub!! That hammie not ready or he would have played Thursday Young attacking players this is what is required in todays game TOUCHLINE to TOUCHLINE animals not Colonais or Cones Again I have zero confidence in this cach setting up his team to go for it 0-0 mentalty THIS group better SHOW UP

Paidia Skibbe set up his team to tie 0-0 we should applaud him for his tactics..but the m#$%! didnt know that this was a must WIN. 1)This game didnt need 2 defensive mids when we knew we would dominate posession IMO Zeca and Tziolis are useless the modern 6 must tackle and be able to spray and ping passes all over the pitch Tachtsidis Samaris much better. Bouchalakis was in form he was a must start this was nt portugal to say the lad would be nervous makes zero sense to me. 2) the 2 outside backs in todays soccer play touchline to touchline Retsos Tzavellas were a shambles did they overlap Mandalos or Donis once to open any spaces for them we had the F***en cover with the 2 colonais Tziolis and Zeca WHERE was Lykogiannis another in form player. 3) Where is our depth an entire country and we have no STRIKER option after Mitro dont say Karelis we dont know what he will be like after injury WTF is going on can no GREEK kid can F***en ball and put it in the net. Donis should have been played up top with Giannotas or Stafy or Lyko on the FLANK. 4) this mentality of being the minnow has never left us ZERO F***en ambition to go forward apart from Donis or Fortounis..Mandalos gets a pass Retsos and Vellios cant help his cause but he is not in the right position. we sit back vs ESTONIA and wait for the 90+ min goal..SACK the F***er SKIBBE a team always take the image of their coach..a group of gutless cowards. 5) Why do we have to play in Karaiskai game in game out. My Bro spoke with Katsouranis in Patras this summer he told him the players dont want to play there THEY LOVE playing in Crete..F*** Larissa has a nice stadium..bring Estonia to Thessaloniki I am so dejected been watching the Ethniki since 89 and I think the last time I was this pissed was after Alexandris missed his chances vs Denmark. WE NEED CHANGE I hope Belgium feed these Fn cowards their lunch Injury excuses are for losers we blew qualifications yesterday!!

Manolas...Kyriacos...Sokratis In a 3-4-3 is a nobrainer when healty they are 3 of our top 10 players..SO as a manager how can you have 1 on the bench! Torosidis.....Samaris......Tachtsidis......Stafylidis Donis...................Mitroglou..........Fortounis It gives us so many more options going forward. and in the futur Giannotas

Apart from Mitroglou our 3 best players are CB would love Skibbe to put Manolas Kpaps Sokratis on the field together. ...................Manolas........Kyriakos.........Sokratis.............. Toro..............Samaris........................Taxi...................Stafy..... ..........Donis..........................Mitro.......................Fortounis Adding width of Toro and Stafy who ca whip ball in it opens up space for Fortounis/Donis like Pedro Hazard get for Chelsea and letsMitro operate..I think we are tailor made for 3-4-3

Was surprised to see Bakasetas in the lineup. But he was not the worst of the 2 wide men Mandalos was poor way before his miss his 1st 3-4 touches looked like he had cement in his boots. He should have been subbed at half. The miss was tragic didnt make Begovic even have to work. Fortounis miss which was not as bad BUT was one he should have converted. His corners were poor but he covered ground and did what he could in a lineup where the game plan was counter or we are happy with a draw. Zeca was solid and I was pleasantly surprised BUT in the 1st half he had MITRO wide open with a Bosnian defender dead to rights and he missed his lob or chip which would have sent Mitro in. Karnezis finally stole a result for us I believe Kapino's last game has fueled a friendly competition which is fantastic going forward. Loved what Donis brought in right off the bounce the guy was playing downhill. Next game he should get the start vs Estonia. Maybe Gianotas on the other side. GUYS we went on the road and SKIBBE almost painted 2 masterpieces if not for a late Belgian late goal and Mandalos tragic miss. The team is showing a resolve and fight that was missing last campaign. We will need this resolve because it is looking like barage for this team. CANT wait for end of August..I think Skibbe has something going with this group. When Sokratis is back I would love to see a back 3 vs Belgium we need all 3 on the pitch. ....................Karnezis/Kapino.......................... ............Manolas...KPaps.......Sokratis.......... Toro.......Samaris........Taxi...............Stafy ...Donis................Mitro..................Fortounis

OK a lineup that won #coachspeak

Any coach any sport will not tinker with a winning lineup..unless Maniatis and Stafy miss the plane they will start..Skibbe does not rate Tachtsidis in 2 games he has played 2 guys with no clubs Tziolis Maniatis a LB Stafilidis and CD KPaps...I agree a player like Tachtsidis can cut teams open with his long range passing but this coach does not think so.

@ Original Sydney 2004 was a generational team..imagine Dabizas was there...right now our 3 best players are CB..play them..thats what coach has to do..now we need to find some pace down the wings and some inform attacking players..I believe Samaris Tachtsidis Petsos can play the middle of the parkclog it up bulldog mentality and all three can play passes up the field...great insulation behind them...I believe in Skibbe vision of a 3-5-2.

@ Original Sydney 2004 was a generational team..imagine Dabizas was there...right now our 3 best players are CB..play them..thats what coach has to do..now we need to find some pace down the wings and some inform attacking players..I believe Samaris Tachtsidis Petsos can play the middle of the parkclog it up bulldog mentality and all three can play passes up the field...great insulation behind them...I believe in Skibbe vision of a 3-5-2.

The problem has been link up from the back to our 10 or options down the line and then of course the lack of finish. After the last qualifier I really liked what I saw from Tachtidis..vision and no fear of trying to slip long passes thru channels for Fotounis and Mitro. I loved Skibbe playing the 3 horsemen in the back...yes I know there were 4. ................Kapino/Karnezis............. .......Manolas.....Sokratis..........Papadopoulos..... Torosidis...Samaris...........Tachtsidis........Stafylidis ....................Fortounis....................... ................Pelkas..........Mitro............... Moving forward we need to find a replacement for Torosidis( I would love to see Mavrias there got preseason minutes for Sunderland at RB at did well) and Stafylidis must replace Holebas..Pelkas/Mandalos can interchange play the hot hand.As for Mitro..if he cant pick it up go with hot players ala Vardy..Giannou Velios..who cares Sammy filling it up for Cosmos why not (BTW did we miss him during the last campaign). I love that Skibbe is juggling formations..hope some fresh faces get a sniff.

Tachtsidis has Tsiartas ike vision but never gets a sniff

Holebas= Malaks ya but he tries hard guy is s%$#!

young midfield will be fin to see how they do..espescially in a no pressure situation (lame duck coach and eliminted) same goes for the two outside backs hoping they just bomb up and down the pitch..could fortounis pelkas and manadalos be the most offensive mids thrown out by a grrek team in a long time??

Has anyone ever ad a worst 12 months than this guy..especially after his World Cup performance...would love to see him at AEK.

Blaming club ties is not the way to go. The guys must look in the mirror and take it upon themselve.they are being weighted down by an amateur coach right now...you hav nothing to lose and you start retreads like Tziolis and Vyntra...no way this stinks EPO..you wanna make a splash because you only 1 chance at a 1st impression..Tsanas is no good period. vs Romamia ...............Kapino................because when was the last big sav Karnezis made! Sokratis...Manolas....KPaps....Holebas....your best players play if they are CB play them!we must go 3 CBs in the future ...........Taxi......Samaris....... Fetfa........Fortounis....Fountas (bleed him) ..............Mitro................ after this game we should never see Tziolis Vyntra...and we should find a manager whose bread and butter is 3-5-2..we have 3 world class CBs and 0ne sat on the bench for Vyntra..bravo

Was Tsanas asked after the match "Rai m#$%! why did you move fortounis from the middle of the pitch and peg him on the left side?" with all due respect this guy cant manage..our 10 was having his way and his solution was to have stand on the left like a colona in the 2nd half. I posted that Tziolis and Vyntra had no business on the roster let alone the field..and this from a guy who coaches hockey...what if you left him central and subbed Aravidis for Kone at the half! This is very upsetting ..my old man dragged me to the kafenia in the late 80s early 90s and got hooked on this team..WTF rai Tsanas Taxi played on thruball in 7 minutes..almost connected with Fortounis..in a gamelike yesterday..Tziolis was going bckwds and sideways we needed that vision fo the killer pass..this guy stinks to high heaven..and so does vyntra..cross one rai vlyma..but our manager saw it fit they play 90...we need an overhaul...i am depressed and I see no end to this if we have clowns like Tsanas at the helm!

I dont think he will be at RB,,,but that is exactly what a leader does..leads by example doing whats best for the team 1st...he is better at RB than anyone we have..we need to win..Kitsiou will get his chance..this is my opinion,,maybe Tsanas goes Kitsiou or Petsos at RB..I just want to see a TEAM playing together and banking 3 points

.....................Karnezis......................... Sokratis...Manolas...KPaps........Holebas ...............Samaris......Taxi.................. Fetfa.........Fortounis........Karelis...... ..................Mitro................................ I can not see Vyntra.no Fn way..Sokratis has handled RB in the Bundesliga I would even try Kitsiou at RB before Vyntra...they need to develop chemistry in the middle of the park but more important this team needs a W in the most epic way.