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    2018 Euroleague Playoffs

    I just watched PAO play Real Madrid*.... One of the best basketball games I've seen, especially against one of the best European clubs. 95-67 rout. OK, PAO needs 2 more wins to advance but this was amazing. If the maintain this on Thu, I think the team is peaking at the right moment. These games may be the last ones PAO plays in the Euroleague as DG has said he'll take the team out of EL and into FIBA. *can you imagine if the football club did something similar?...😜
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    Daily Team News [ 2017 ]

    So, what's the story with Zeca? Did I miss something after his latest red card and punishment?
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    Happy Easter (Καλό Πάσχα ...)

    Hope you all had a nice time, whether you're celebrating the religious occasion or not. I'm not religious, but I remember fondly the times I spent that holiday in Greece. I liked the meat (preferred goat to lamb) on the spit and the rest of the delicious food. I didn't fast during the previous week (or maybe I did but didn't know it), though the eating past midnight Sat into Sun was a bit too much. Anyway, holidays are special in the company of good friends and family.
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    Yeah, and it was very scary...
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    General Gavros Discusion Topic

    He's responsible for hiring coaches, etc. But, I'd be upset if I spent more than all teams combined and got a team that's not really good and with players with a casual attitude. Is it true that Oly will be playing with U20 players for rest of season?
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    AEK - PAO League Game Apr 01, 2018

    final 3-0. I didn't expect much from this game to be honest, but being down 1 player since the 30' was a blow. I think the ref missed a few critical plays in favor of AEK. Anyway, congrats to the new champions, AEK.
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    AEK - PAO League Game Apr 01, 2018

    Coulibali had a great attempt on goal. Nice save by AEK keeper. This could have been 0-1. PAO has the better chances so far.
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    AEK vs Panathinaikos 01.04.18 Gsl

    AEK will win the title this season, and they deserve it. They haven't lost a game since Oct. In my opinion, the PAOK goal was offside since a PAOK player was interfering. Anyway, PAOK shot themselves in the foot several times this year. As for the game AEK-PAO, I'm only hopeful that PAO shows up to play, because with what's going on in the club, I cannot expect anything more. I just read players haven't been paid since last year. Plus, the team may lose 3 points, and even worse..... Not knowing whether you'll get paid or where the team will be at end of season, having lost half of the starting roster since the start of season..... I'm surprised they play at the level they're playing.....
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    Trump Presidency

    Friends, It's been a week since the US general election, and a new page in American politics has started. Let's put the other thread to rest, because it escalated into personal attacks, so let's respectfully discuss the new president's tenure and related matters here. Let's remind ourselves that the point of this forum is to welcome a diversity of people and ideas, and to have a good time, even when we disagree with others; and, it'll be fun, because we'll be having a civilized discussion, right?... So, president-elect Trump.... We'll be watching but who can say what he'll actually do? How do you judge his first moves and statements?
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    PAE PAOK General News & Discussion

    My thoughts exactly. This mess is 100% Greek-made.
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    PAOK vs AEK 11.03.18

    It seems I was right in predicting AEK would win 0-3! [I had a feeling that match wouldn't finish]
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    Daily Team News [ 2018 ]

    OK. Good thoughts, but for serious investors to come in you need to have a legitimate league and a state that operates on modern standards. What makes you think this can happen? Also, what is the value of this sport in Greece? Is it its entertainment value? (like quality of play?) Is it the identity some people have cultivated with their team? I don't think anyone can say that the entertainment value is high. The second question indicates tribalism of the kind that has led to violence. Do you see a third option? On a related topic, I hear that many are asking UEFA to step in to clean Greek football. The mess we've seen in the last 20+ years is Greek-made 100%. It reflects the ailing Greek society, which has to solve its myriad of problems before football does too. Sadly, it's the same pattern since the Greek Revolution of 1821... Greeks seeking foreign powers and leadership because they can't do it themselves.
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    Daily Team News [ 2018 ]

    OK, let's say they build it but nobody comes?.... This is not the economy that can support this. You'd need a crazy billionaire to spend lots of $ for fun. But, I also think that football in Greece is dead. The gap with the strong Euro teams is getting wider, almost impossible to bridge. A few thousand fanatical supporters will keep going to watch games and continue beating themselves up. There's NO credibility in the league. (Look at the last few decisions compared with what PAO got over the years). So, the sport has become an arena for wasting time, mostly. Yes, I do watch, but I'm much more detached now than in the past, because I know there's no legitimacy, and, frankly, crappy spectacle--not worth my money. You may say I'm in the minority.... I don't know. I bet you that attendance is way down than 10-15 years ago. Fewer people are watching too. The younger gens? I'd guess they have many more things to spend time and money on. So, unless supporting a team is part of your core identity, then I'd guess most people don't find this spectacle attractive... it has lost its prominence. PS> this is my impression as I don't live in Greece; I may be wrong...
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    PAOK vs AEK 11.03.18

    Nah, AEK will win 0-3! ;)
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    Daily Team News [ 2018 ]

    I'm puzzled by this. When DG asked Ala about debts the number was $80 mil, and DG pulled out. The key in this is that all those who owed money by PAO would settle to take less, but when it becomes known DG and other big business are about to take over, why settle? This is dangerous because someone like Vemer (or whatever that loser's name is) would demand his $600K or PAO will lose 3 points and more....
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    Daily Team News [ 2018 ]

    This is a great result, especially after losing the better half of the team since the season started. PAO managed the best it could under the circumstances, and yes, the ref may have made mistakes, but this team showed some ..metal. I don't know about the first half, but controlling the ball 50-50 in the second with a man down, it's impressive.
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    Daily Team News [ 2018 ]

    I'm not sure. Konstantinou said today that UEFA will ban the team from Europe for 1 season, and that the club will try to get to the 5th position this season to "pay off" this penalty. Which it'd mean UEFA can punish the club but no point deduction or relegation. I doubt they'll get up to the 5th place, because there are derbies coming up and I don't think we can expect much from this team. And, it's better not playing in Europe because, let's face it, we don't have the minimum quality to be competitive, especially given the fact that more of the decent players will leave in the summer.
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    Daily Team News [ 2018 ]

    ^^^^^^ These numbers are much different than the 80+ mil we heard not so long ago, and are not forbidding to a potential new owner(s). But, the club is depleted. It could be down to 13 players, who no matter what talent they have, aren't enough. How are we going to get new, experienced players? Oh, and I just read that the remaining players announced they'll go on strike if management doesn't come through with its promises by end of this month! There are plenty of teams in both football and basketball that used to be great but aren't heard much anymore. I hope PAO won't become one of them.... (though the way it's been going, only older fans in Europe may have heard of PAO)
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    Trump Presidency

    The "donor class" gets lots of benefits from an expensive political system it helps fund, and this is evident from the chasm between the super rich and the rest. However, there are still big differences between the two major political parties, and anyone who says otherwise is either trying to confuse and distract or doesn't know what he's talking about. I don't know how the Green party and those who voted for Jill Stein (arguably may have tipped the election to Trump) can still say with a straight face that the Trump admin. is nothing different than one under HRC might have been! Tsk... Yeah, the Earth is elated with this bunch of anti-science, anti-environment, non-qualified and dangerous Trump people. Sure, no difference between hiring competent people in leadership positions and the Trump charlatans. I mean, Trumpism identified the sources of our troubles: The Chinese, the Mexicans, and ..Obama. I'd even argue that the recent tax bill wouldn't have passed under HRC. She'd be raising her own taxes to pay for health care instead of giving bigger tax breaks to the wealthy and taking health insurance from millions of Americans. Just on these two, health care and the environment, and probably now with gun control [Clinton's sensible gun control expired in 2004 and despite popular support the Repubs didn't renew it], the differences are striking. Oh, I almost forgot.... the Supreme Court matters a lot and this is where presidents leave a legacy for decades since their appointees stay on the bench for 20-30+ years.
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    Official Transfers & Rumors

    It seems that the gig is over, for now. Get the domestic title, play in the CL for lots of money, invest that in buying good players, etc, and repeat. But, apparently things have changed now. Still, Oly has the bigger budget than any other domestic team. It'll be competitive next year.
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    Trump Presidency

    The intelligence community, as explained in the video, did say that the Russians meddled in our election and they had a clear preference to help Trump by discrediting (hacking and leaking internal emails, etc) HR Clinton. Indeed DJT and the GOP used the Russian info to attack HRC. Last week, we learned that Russia "successfully penetrated voter systems" .... If you think the constant leaks and attacks on HRC didn't make a difference in an election decided by a few thousand votes in 3 states, then there's no point of discussing this topic. Those who are OK that a foreign, hostile gov interferes in our electoral process, and hacks into American emails, computer systems, etc, then they may want to check their super-patriotism at the door. (and please don't tell your patron saint, Reagan) Inside the Muller indictments.... and how Russian oligarchs and other Putin allies spent tons of money supporting Trump in many ways. I remember how many of our (ex) members were citing those sources, pictures, hacked emails, falsehoods, etc. A major part of any US election strategy is to mobilize your voters while suppressing the turnout of the opposite voters. Democrats had/have more voters, but given HRC unpopularity, many stayed home on election day.
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    Daily Team News [ 2018 ]

    Plus the 2 points they took away from PAO this season, this team has managed to be mid-table. I read somewhere that the players who have contracts past this season are not that many, and those who do, like Kourbelis, Lud, and Koulibali, will be sold. So, including the newly promoted from the young team, there will be 13 players total on the roster remaining. So, even under the best case scenario (debt relief, UEFA, SL permits, etc), without a decent budget, next season will be a struggle too.
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    Trump Presidency

    If you don't clap and praise the great leader, it's treason!
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    Daily Team News [ 2018 ]

    You know, if Dimitris Y leaves the basketball club (as he's saying he will if the fans decide to stay in the Euroleague), he could come over and ....
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    Daily Team News [ 2018 ]

    The PAO youth squad if very good, undefeated this year. It's very valuable to keep the academy going, but with no money to pay workers, trainers, etc, and with bad morale, things can go downhill easily. This is going to be another difficult week for the club. I think the key is not to have points taken away because everything hangs by a thread that can easily break... The financial situation is the sword of Damocles. If it doesn't fall, the club will finish the season at mid-table.