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  1. 5 points
    I'm sick of hearing negativity on this forum of our beloved national team. Seriously what is it that makes people bash our own team. Be positive. Even a Croatian journalist said that how is it that we do so well but not have one top star in the team. I want everyone to have a look at the video and specifically that question. Sokratis couldnt have said it any better. Have some belief for god's sake. I always hear we don't have depth, our players are not good enough, we have to play like this, we have to play like that. Enough! We are not a perfect team we will probably never will be. But as Greeks we have heart and the one thing we know is pulling through when our back is against the wall. Just be positive and if we don't succeed accept it and say something positive about it. This goes to everyone who is always whinging and complaining, im to blame as well but some people just don't stop. I believe we will win both matches. Be proud and look forward to the match!
  2. 5 points
    Sport-fm and Gazetta both reporting that Sokratis said it is not serious and he will be fine for the matches.
  3. 5 points
    Pirated Pirates: 4 3 3 Rockafella Skank (scores) NIck the Greek George Laz DJ (Fetfa) J1078 Blackhawk Argy Molon Lave Akritis (vc) Red Sherriff Boxou La Mendell (c) Bench: Ausgreek
  4. 5 points
    v Croatia Games won: 2 Games drawn: 3 Games lost: 1 Date Match Result Score Competition 10 Nov 1996 Croatia v Greece D 1-1 FIFA World Cup 30 Apr 1997 Greece v Croatia L 0-1 FIFA World Cup 10 Mar 1999 Greece v Croatia W 3-2 International Friendly 25 Apr 2001 Croatia v Greece D 2-2 International Friendly 07 Sep 2010 Croatia v Greece D 0-0 UEFA European Championship 07 Oct 2011 Greece v Croatia W 2-0 UEFA European Championship
  5. 5 points
    LOL who's Greece? Oh only the team that beat you to the top spot in the Euro 2012 qualifications undefeated
  6. 5 points
    Greece vs Gibraltar, To all my Greeksters enjoy this game on Tuesday. To all those unwavering fans that understand Greek soccer, I stand by you. To all of those negative Greek fans that have been hitting the argile, or drinking "bomba" drinks at a very sketchy skiladiko and aren't making sense.......relax. Everyone must understand we are not the coaches, or the players. We are simply the fans. In the end, do your stavrouli, Make a Fredo cappuccino, wear your brightest fanella, and eat a delicious spanakopita as a tasty snack. Remember SO MANY OTHER TEAMS WOULD KILL TO BE IN OUR POSITION. So we'll take Gibraltar for our final do or die match.
  7. 4 points
  8. 4 points
    Fetfatzidis and Holebas play and are the main cogs for their respective teams, based on that merit alone they should definitely be included or tried in the squad going forward. I understand people's concern about the saudi arabian but one will never know what they have in someone unless they try him out.... give him the chance he will surprise many!!!....Keeping Skibbe is a mistake and what he said reassures me that hes not fit for the job but guess we have no choice at this point.... so onward we go.... for better or worse!!!
  9. 4 points
    This is the first time I've been able to bring myself back to the forum after we went out! I opened my laptop yesterday and it was still on the stream from the match in the 85th minute (when I stopped watching) and it started to play it, I was like nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In retrospect I think Skibbe should have played with two strikers and dropped a few of the 'invisible players' (Tziolis, Bakesetas, Tachtsidis) he chose. This is the line-up I would have gone with: __________________________Karnesis ____Torosidis_____Sokratis_________Manolas______Retsos Lazoros___________Zeca____________Fortunis______Stafylidis __________________Mitroglou________Pelkas I really think the penalty decision going against us was the turning point in the game, if we'd have got the penalty then the players would have had a lot more belief, and it would have rattled Croatia. Its just a shame dodgy and corrupt officiating again screwed us over. I also think our crossing really let us down on the night, a game Stafylidis would have really excelled in, I can't understand how Skibbe couldn't see this and at least bring him on for the second half?
  10. 4 points
    score line is almost the same if we'd lose 2-0. we'd still need a 3-0 victory. just go out and get it, croatian players think they're already in russia do it in a barca-psg or man utd-oly style.
  11. 4 points
    it's alright. come back of the year baby. 3-0 hellas next game pame!
  12. 4 points
    Go fook yourself, Come back when you actually have some silver wear, which will be never. Lets take a look at Croatias trophy cabinet!
  13. 4 points
    I understand what you are saying but how about the fact they they let almost a month pass and only until Manolas was cleared to play and chosen on the squad was the suspension then brought down 6 days before? Also a suspension like this has never been given out before. Do you honestly think If Ronaldo did the same thing that Fifa would suspend him from a playoff game? Not a chance in hell does this happen to another top end player on a big team.. This is absolutely bullshit... The fact that Fifa didn't even reach out to the Epo to let them know they will review what happened within a few days after Monalos received the yellow stinks even more.
  14. 4 points
    Here is a really nice video about Greek Football in general, its history, culture, club football, the national team etc. Really well done and definately worth a look! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jyXa8lIrI4
  15. 4 points
    Unbelievable!!! Corrupt FIFA at it again. They have it out for the Greeks and how is it they can determine that Manolas did it purposely or not and why did they wait this long were they still looking at the footage? Gianniotas got his tooth knocked out by a Bosnian coach and all they got was a stadium switch!!! In the end it won't matter as we can put in Kyriakos or Retsos and still keep a clean sheet and take care of business and they'll still have to watch our boring play defence and hit them on the counter attack brand of soccer in Russia. We'll be in Russia with our Orthodox brothers and so will Mantalos! Makynia out!!!
  16. 4 points
    here we are waiting and praying to see if Manolas is fit and once we find out he's cleared Fifa screws us to benefit Croatia ffs..Manolas not starting for us in Croatia will make it very difficult for us to keep a clean sheet. I'm sorry but Vellios does not deserve a call up at all that is a horrible decision by skibbe as the guy doesn't get regular playing time at all. I still think a Karelis at 60% is worth a call up over Vellios just to have as an option if we need him.
  17. 4 points
    You dudes are really asking for it. What does Greece havE? Good defence. How we gonna line up? Karnezis Torosidis - Siovas - Manolas - Sokratis - Retsos - Papadopoulos - Tzavellas - Stafylidis Fortounis Mitroglou Either you like it or not , 8 - 1 - 1 is what peak performance looks like in modern football. Educate yourselfs.
  18. 4 points
    Even though Croatia have bigger name players I also am glad we avoided the Swiss. We tend to typically play better against better offensive teams that have a weaker defence. Lets be honest We are going to park the bus and try and defend like hell and try to frustrate them and hope we can attack on the counter or off a set piece. This is the way we win... Everyone can call it "anti football" or Ugly boring soccer" I say who gives a s%$#! we are who we are. We have a solid back end and we need to use it to our advantage.
  19. 4 points
    Belgium: 9 wins, 1 draw, 0 losses / 43 GF, 6 GA Croatia (with a slightly deeper group but no powerhouse): 6 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses / 15 GF, 4 GA Greece (in a group with with powerhouse Belgium): 5 wins, 4 draws, 1 loss / 17 GF, 6 GA There is an evident gap between Belgium and Croatia and Greece gave Belgium their toughest matches since Euro 2016 that could have easily ended in a win and a draw. Greece and Croatia look very evenly matched.
  20. 4 points
    Great post....When you need a win against Gibraltar to advance means one thing....A SUCCESSFUL QUALIFYING CAMPAIGN. The coaching staff and players deserve credit where it's due. That being said....finish it off boys on Tuesday. Whoever we play in the playoffs, the boys I'm sure will give it a tough fight. And I'm sure Italy and Portugal don't want to draw us....the rest of the team's in the pot, we will beat!
  21. 4 points
    Let's just sit back and enjoy the fact the we now control our own destiny again and that we've put our selfs in a position with a win over Gibraltar to be amongs the best 2nd place teams and at the very least we get to see the Ethniki in two crucial matches.. just for now let's forget the what if , the who the why and let's just enjoy the fact that we will have some really meaningful football coming up in November.. If Greece play like the did against belgium in both games they will NOT be an easy opponent to play against..
  22. 4 points
    Relax manga. Take a lie down on this nice black leather sofa and I will listen to all your grievances. The truth is that PAO and AEK fans were quite ... fond of PAOK up until April 28th. I didn't hear anything about conspiracies, Savvidis running the league, and just general hateful comments towards Savvidis, Ivic and PAOK up until that date. Everything was rosy. In fact, we were one of the "3" trying to take on the Marinakis monster ... apparently. But then, on April 28th, the world changed. Something crazy happened. PAOK defeated PAO 4-0 in the semi final of the Cup. And then ... all hell broke loose. Now apparently, referees in Greece are perfect and never make mistakes. In fact, I've watched games for years and in general referees don't make mistakes. But in this game, there were mistakes! So by logical deduction, you have to ask yourself, why ?! And the only logical conclusion, if as we have shown that referees in Greece don't make mistakes, is that something was amiss. Foul play my friend, foul play. That free kick that lead to the Pelkas goal. Two clear penalties not given to PAO. The evidence is plentiful and is incriminating. And now onto the AEK game in the final. The offside goal, which where each week the margin gets bigger and bigger. First he was offside by a meter. Then two metres. In a while Henrique will be outside the stadium. Add to that the fact that Melissanidis (a virtuous and trustworthy soul) clearly told us after the game the linesman was paid. Just the one linesman mind you. Not the referee and the other linesman. Just the one linesman on that side, because apparently Savvidis and Ivic worked out which side the winning goal would come from. They had consulted with a gypsy in Dendropotamos. Who has the influence and power to effect such injustice ? The evidence clearly points to one pseudo Greek, a Russian in fact. On a side note, it is highly debatable whether anyone above the 40th parallel is in fact truly Greek but that is a discussion for another time. Such foul play! Such injustice! Such cunning and craftiness, to only pay off just the one linesman. I would go so far as to say the plan was brilliant if it didn't have such a stench about it. And in this world where a club like PAOK should be spat on, mocked, and just generally looked down upon, it just doesn't ... hmmm ... feel right when they win something at the expense of other more deserving teams. Like PAO and AEK for example. I mean, it just feels wrong. Why should those Bulgarians get to have some of the pie ? They've been satisfied with crumbs for decades, and now they want to sit at the table too! The insolence! Apparently being 4th and 5th for decades was not enough for these peasants. Now they want to actually sit at the table with the big boys. That is one possible version of events. The other possible version of events is that the ball is round and things like fitness, fatigue, injuries, form, luck play their role. Referees do make mistakes and do generally favour the home team. It's always been this way. Maybe not in the past because we had joker presidents (incidentally it looks like one of our previous presidents was sentence the other day to 6 years jail) but now the old "trick" of let's screw over PAOK means there could be actual repercussions. So you'll need to find a new trick. That one can't be played with such ease and nonchalance anymore. Even your comments of us trying to become the gavros of the next 20 years. Really ? Just because you can't screw us without lube anymore. And we've been doing what the last 5 years exactly ? You're saying we've been running the league for the last 5 years ? Are you delusional ? The simple truth is that we gave you guys a beating in Toumba, get over it. In the Cup Final with AEK our second goal was offside but people that follow Greek football can't accept the fact that an error could've been made. There must be some big band conspiracy behind it. The can was full, the can was half full, the can was empty, the firecracker this, the the the the the m-a-l-a-k-i-e-s. It's all just anger, hatred, the epitamy of the greek attitude of self entitlement. No humility, bend the facts, pick the ones that suit you, ignore the rest. As for the play offs, the best team won. This is the irony of the play off system. Last season AEK were the better team in the league and were 9 points clear of PAOK but ran out of puff in the play offs. This year the opposite. PAOK have been poor in the play offs. The system is inherently unfair and should be done away with but that is a discussion for another day. At least some Greek football fans can get joy seeing PAOK lose. Apparently, this is the one guaranteed way to make them happy.
  23. 4 points
    good because we've scored first and second so that has to bode well
  24. 4 points
    When you change 2-3 coaches in pre season, sell your top mid and top scorer mid season, and change half the team every summer, you get what we have.
  25. 4 points
    This is Lazarus trying something new.... (I'm the guy in the middle with the hat, encouraging Laz)
  26. 3 points
    It 's not an age factor...a NT has to know if in form players can fit into their plans regardless of age...you never know what can happen and have to be ready with options....especially if you wanna get rid of the TzioloTzavelloManiatides. Vaslakaki is 30 but never stops working, has the lungs to run all game long and has skill and a good footballing IQ. I'd definitely rather see him on the pitch atm than an anemic Forounis or uninvolved Samaris.
  27. 3 points
    Our last friendly game was that of versus Belarus in November 2016. We did not have any friendly games in 2017. This is Skibbes fault. I understand that the EPO doesnt have any money, but we should have played at least four friendly matches last year. I dont think there was another team that had a chance to qualify to the World Cup and did not play a single friendly in 2017. Skibbe should have tried new players and formations (like that employed versus Belgium, 4-4-1-1, or that used versus Croatia, 5-2-3) in these games. If we would have had an Otto or Santos type coach last year, we would have played several friendly games. Players like Vellios or Bakasetas wouldnt have started then in crucial games, Lykogiannis and Kourbelis would have gathered more experience, Maniatis the Right Back would have possibly been exposed before that match in Zagreb etc. etc. Rehhagel would have banged the tables if EPO wouldnt have organized any matches in a whole year. Same goes for Santos. Skibbe is perhaps not hard enough.
  28. 3 points
    Who I play Sunday..and yes I believe there are plent of goals in the Croat backline Mitro missed 2 headers and got one shot fingertipped Sokratis should have dne better with his 2nd header whol net was there for him..WE CAN DO IT ................Anestis (KARNEZIS 7 goals in his last 120minuts Watford Greece).... ...................Retsos.....Sokratis.......Manolas......... Toro...............Zeca..............Tachtsidis................Lykogiannis ...............................Pelkas......................Fortounis.............. .......................................Mitroglou............................. Anestis is a must start in any sport with a goalie..the team must have full confidence..WE cant ask our players to open it up with the way Karnezis is playing and for some reason a fresh golaie always gets a team to work twice as hard!! We need goals Stafylidis or Tzavellas offer zero going forward put WolfJohn in he is in form and more the modern back than Tzavellas I love stafylidis but he ha ZERO confidence. He showed it last game on the 1st goal he got the ball on a switch of play and was 1v1 with there RB rather than take him on and creata chance or get fouled he bottled it back to Tzziolis to the back breaking goal Donis Giannotas Lazaros Lyko would have bombed forward, Pelkas Fortounis give us 2 #10 style players who can create. If Skibbe doesnt make major changes Sunday and goes wit the same clowns then we know EPO call some shots.
  29. 3 points
    At the end of the day, Greece is not ready for the world cup. We took steps forward, now I believe it's time to only play the new generation players....we have a good mixture of veterans and younger talent. Let's not overkill this thread by super analyzing the s%$#! out of it. There's nothing really to say more. Team took steps forward, not ready for the world cup....showed potential with the generation players. THERE'S NOTHING MORE!!!
  30. 3 points
    As bad as we played today (we gifted Croatia most of those goals), we did create chances. If we can sure up our defense on Sunday, bring Monolas in and actually play a proper RB. I think we should win the return leg. As crazy as it sounds I don't think this tie is as dead as people think. Croatia's defense is garbage and we need to just actually believe in ourselves and push forward. Impossible is Nothing!
  31. 3 points
    defensive "boring" style of football........... its funny, in every other team sport - defense is prized and sought out..."defensive player of the year" awards are given out in acknowledgment of this difficult skill...... yet Greece ALWAYS gets knocked for it. Itlay played "catenachio" for decades and yet you never hear anything about Italy playing boring soccer. such a hypocritical, double standard.....
  32. 3 points
    That's right, I am not worried about this all that much. Is it corrupt garbage, yes, but KPap is more than capable of replacing Manolas. It's how this all played out that is the issue.
  33. 3 points
    This article is suggesting Donis has a good chance of just making it back for the Croatia games... Time will reveal i guess. Would be huge to have him available even if all he can offer is 20 mins off the bench http://www.contra.gr/Soccer/Hellas/National-Greece/kai-omws-o-dwnhs-mporei-na-prolavei-ta-mparaz.4900322.html
  34. 3 points
  35. 3 points
    They have been our Pelates come on don't f*ckin be scared. Good names bad team. That's who they are. 15 goals scored in their Group while we scored 17. Even if we consider Gibraltar far worse than Kosovo if we exclude those goals we still scored more. 9 over their 8.. This is the Second best draw after Denmark. Switzerland and Italy are far more decent and performing
  36. 3 points
    Greece v Croatia positionally: GK: Karnezis (Watford) v Subasic (Monaco): Once your keeper is a certain class, as both these keepers are, it is hard to distinguish an edge even though the latter has more playing time at a top club. I would call this a draw. Both players will do their job at a high level. Defense: Sokratis, Manolas, Papadopoulos, Torosidis, Retsos, Stafylidis, Tzavellas > Lovren, Vida, Mitrovic, Vrsaljko, Pivaric Midfield: Samaris, Zeca, Tachtsidis, Fortounis, Mantalos, Tziolis < Modric, Rakitic, Badelj, Perisic, Rog Attack: Mitroglou, Donis, Karelis, Gianniotas, Lazaros = Mandzukic, Kramaric, Cop
  37. 3 points
    In its current state, Croatia look to be the 3rd strongest seeded team behind Italy and Switzerland. They finished runners up to a mediocre Iceland team in a deep group I, but without a superpower. Then again, Croatia was supposed to be that superpower but failed to take control. As for us, we put ourselves in this position and can't expect an easy draw. Let us hope our stars stay healthy, in form and Manolas recovers on time.
  38. 3 points
    Looking forward to the playoffs, I think looking back to both Belgium matches, if they fight like those matches....then Greece can battle with any of the higher seeded teams. When was the last time Greece got any favours, I won't say it never happens....but usually we get the difficult path. Some of the negative people in the forums, and in the Kafenia complain about the players, squad, formation, tactics, coaching, results. But we should all keep in mind that other teams are facing their own problems. For example, Italy as others mention. What about the Swiss, they had a reality check versus a fortunate (own goal) Portugal. So let the top seeds pump their tires, let Greece be lowly, underserving Greece. Now we are beginning to be healthy, and it appears that in regards to cards (red/yellows) we are looking in good shape. We finished 2nd in our group, where we rightful belong. Belgium were strongest period. I was pleased to see Messi score 3 today and punch Argentina's ticket to the world cup. ARGENTINA, to all the pessimists who week in week out moaned, and complained, and failed to realize that the ETHNIKI is what it is. This is what we have, this is the team the coach works with. He makes the decisions, and his decisions coinciding with the play of the entire squad have led us to this point. As well the National team is finally a team again. It is nice to see that there are plenty of other Greeksters in the forum who through the good and bad results remained positive. These are the Greekster that I would like to have a few fix beers, and some meze enjoying a match. A special shout out to Rockefeller Skank for your great posts.
  39. 3 points
    If they play like they did vs Belgium they can beat any of these sides. Denmark is our best option, Italy are not the same but wouldn't want to go against them as they play similar defensive game as we do. Plus I'm sure FIFA would find away to get them in. Switzerland don't scare me and we havs done well vs Croatia.
  40. 3 points
    Let me give you my insight on Greece's possible opponent. Italy and Portugal are quite beatable. The recent matches I watch for Italy, they have played mediocre. Not the 2006 team who won the World Cup with the likes of Cannavaro and Pirlo. With all respect to Buffon, but he is old. Portugal is Portugal and Greece still have there number. Other teams like Sweden, Denmark, or Northern Ireland don't scare me one bit. Whoever Greece gets, they will give their 110% on the pitch.
  41. 3 points
    Holebas stated that he is retiring from NT and noone can say anything to him. He decided, made it public. Skibbe can do nothing else if Holebas aint interested in throwing his ego away and play for a coach that wanted him as a LB. Happened with Georgatos too under Otto and yet noone blamed otto about it then because we won the Euros I suppose. I honestly am of the opinion that apart from Lazaros Christodoulopoulos and possibly Dimitrios Pelkas instead of Bakasetas and Diamantakos every other single call up was justified. Noone disagrees that our Goallie, Defenders , Striker , Fortounis should be in the line up. What peopla dont like are some of hte wingers Skibbe uses (Mantalos-Bakasetas to be fair) and the midfield. When it comes to wingers. Skibbe uses defensively minded players in there. Stafylidis and Mantalos usually. a LB who is very good offensively and a attacking mid who proved why he plays when he pressured high and assisted mitroglou (and hit the woodwork). Yesterday the only one who cant be blamed for the low scoring is Skibbe. Mitroglou lost a few chances. Mantalos hit the wood and his assist to Fortounis was a bit behind than it should and thus cleared. We had 5-6 clear chances to score in myhumble opinion and people are still disappointed. We won them way harder at Athens despite the score. This team apart from the Estonia match , after the 6th is playing very solidly. We are in the play offs coz we deserve it). When it comes to the central midfielders I ll say something that noone wants to hear. We have noone. Samaris is not offensively orientated, yet a class above everyone else in that part so he looks like the best box to box we have. Truth is He is not even a box to box. He is just too good and of an experienced age to know what he has to do and do it. Zeca is defensively decent at worst. Tziolis. Eveyrone hates Tziolis. I see the reason. Tziolis really deserves to be called but not to be a starter. Let's ask ourselves why. Our Greece sux so much that Skibbe needs a tall line up for the set pieces. There it is. Yesterday we had 2 corners where we had a clear header. One went in. Do I praise Tziolis for scoring? No. Did he get the job done in front of 2 Cypriots? Yes. So overall. Skibbe is playing our best defenders, our best goalies , our best centerforward and our best attacking mid. Donis when not injured usually starts and the only problems I see are a)when Zeca/Samaris are injured so usually Tziolis will play b)Mantalos being on the wings. Scrap Mantalos for Lazaros and you got a far more decent attacking mid trio. But what happens with his defensive duties? Skibbe made a solid defence that conceded as many goals as Belgium. Yet we are still complaining.
  42. 3 points
    I completely disagree with everyone. In the next 2 years if Greece qualifies for the WC they ll make a team much stronger. Stafylidis is becomming a more solid Holebas. Sokratis- Manolas are the best defenders we ve ever produced with back ups of a solid Papadopoulos and a prospect Retsos. Mitroglou enters the age where strikers and CBs reach their peak. He has learned from his experience. He is a statik player and his pace was never anything to care about. Donis a second striker who has everything we ve never seen on a player in the NT. The pace and the dribble to challenge man to man defenders and be able to shoot. Still too young but obviously above promising. He looks like a complete player with only his decision making needing upgrade. Midfield Samaris I suppose will find a new team to be match fit more than he currently is, being in and out of Benfica's bench despite the team clearly not doing well. I suppose he ll start getting more game time since teams who go through bad periods need a change. Benfica defense seems to be the issue so I suppose Samaris will get some chances to prove himself. Our other midfielders are all below average but Zeca has proven that he is solid defensively and probably brings up his game with the NT. Bilbao coach praised him after PAO matches. He has to know more. He called him elite. Offensively he is nothing. Defensively he is another wall in front of our CB wall. This team brought their best game in 3 out of 4 matches with the big boys of the Group. This team if they qualify they will prove us all wrong. Either they go further than Groupstage or not is not the point. If we look every opponent we face as well as we did vs Bosnia and Belgium (mind you half the teams that make it will be equal and maybe worse than Bosnia), we ll look like we deserved that spot out of the 32. As for the whole Dark era. You all f*ckers now understand why Santos was using Karagounis/Katsouranis till they reached elderly age. We had a 6 and 8 who controlled whole games. That's literally what's missing right now. A 8 like Kara who can be a transition god. To dethrone Samaris from his starting spot and create a link from offence to defense. 3-5-2 is on paper our strongest formation. Im only talking about names. Individuals. If it works for this NT or not is totally not the question but 3-5-2 is on paper a formation we could have an extra back pass and a bit more focus over Mitroglou and how to service him.
  43. 3 points
    After how we handled Belgium, teams like Italy and Portugal should be careful what they wish for. Greece plays up to their rivals.
  44. 3 points
    comparing greece latest game with belgium is not a right approach. we had a defensive formation at 4-4-1-1 and 2 world class defenders. if we had gone there all out attack they would have slaughtered us. bosnia however will miss 3 out of 4 starters of their defence and pjanic with his replacement as a '10' also being out. they will have to go all out attack and that would mean they will concede a couple of goals rather easily. also they're not strong in the midfield and pjanic missing leaves a bigger gap there. and to those who say it's a must win game for bosnia and they will take it. games against greece at first place and cyprus were also must win games but they failed miserably. the only way i see bosnia reaching the playoffs is by greece failing to beat cyprus. and that won't happen. ps. today we have the first qualifying games. we need scotland to beat slovakia and england to beat slovenia, as well as montenegro to draw denmark. that leaves other groups more open than ours and adds potential candidates for the worst second placed teams.
  45. 3 points
    Woah how ungrateful you all are tbh i am in shock. No pride, no culture and some really gutless digs. Savvidis saved our team from the fate of aek, iraklis, aris of 3rd division, paid all our debts when all of greece was against him, improved our training facilities, improved our youth with financial investment and brought us some respect financially in Europe whereby we can attrack decent players and some mistakes and you guys all start shooting. Im guttered no europe all year just corrept boring GSL yet im not going to turn on savidis. Turn on the journalists who stay quiet never report problems then we lose a game and all of a sudden theu knew all along the problems.... whu wants kolka, toskitsis etc blaming these backroom guys prior to euro exit? Why didnt they interview ivic? Now after a loss they knew it all along??? We have no excuse now but to win the league and pressure should be on Savvidi to make 2 big name signings now to overcome this embarrasing and seriously damaging europa league exit. Not telling him to leave!
  46. 3 points
    some of the belguims should join there Olympic diving team
  47. 3 points
    The ref just took 1st place away from us. Piece of s%&#036;#&#33;. The boys played there asses of and played rock solid defense and very organized in the back.. we deserved a lot better. we frustrated the hell out of Belgium and took advantage of there mistakes. Great job great result but it should have been a win if we had 11 players on the field.
  48. 3 points
    Lol....the answer is right in front of your eyes. When the automatic CL spot vanished....so did Marinakis pocket book. Marinakis has been selling the last 2 seasons....What quality has he brought in? Lets compare Olympiakos rosters of 2010 up to 2017....2013 and 2014 Olympiakos was at the peak, and had high caliber squads.....not only in the SL, also in Europe....respectable CL sides. Now lets look at 2017, Olympiakos is a shadow of those teams.
  49. 3 points
    Vergos scored twice yesterday. He reverted the game after Castilla were behind 1-0 at HT with the equalizer and the 1-2. FT 1-3.
  50. 3 points
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