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  1. 9 points
    A round of applause for the most ridiculous statement by one of the most out of touch posters on this site. Where do I start with this trash of a post? 1. The largest waves of immigration to the diaspora came in the 1900's- 1920's and the more recent wave of immigration in the 1950's-1980's. Now I know this much math might cause you a headache but the recent wave of Greek immigration means that most of the young Greeks living in the diaspora today have parents (such as mine) who were born in Greece! So I don't know in what world that translates to a bloodline from many many generations ago but maybe letting the provata herd themselves for a day and doing some research wouldn't hurt you. 2. Due to the crisis in Greece a lot of Greeks are immigrating to other countries so a lot of us disapora Greeks have constant contact with people who just came over. Also before this last wave of immigrants leaving Greece, more Greeks were going back to Greece than were immigrating out. Over 70,000 American citizens (many of my family members) went back to Greece, so I guess we aren't as out of touch with Greece as you'd like to think huh? 3. A lot of Greek diaspora communities are prouder to be Greek than Greeks in Greece are. Come to a Greek club in Astoria and see how much Greeks love to be around each other and love to listen to and dance to Greek music, and then go to Greece and watch Greeks use american slang and only dance to rap music at the clubs. Come to the Greek parade on 5th Avenue and see 100,000 Greeks in relation to the 200 or so elderly people in the Athenian parade. Come see 5,000 Greeks in Astoria alone march down the streets for Greek Easter. Come see Athens Square park, a park in the US filled with Greek sculptures and columns, built by Greek Americans. When Greeks of the diaspora are sending money back to Greece through organizations, through plane tickets every summer, and through wire transfers to family, we are as Greek as Greek gets right? I personally go to Greece every summer (sometimes Christmas too) for over two months, spend a s%$#! load of money supporting my country, speak fluent Greek (better than a lot of 'pou'se re man' Greeks in Greece), and I spend 90% of my time around Greek people or speaking to my friends in Greece. So I get offended when bum aplutoi like you who offer nothing to Greece but indoctrination and loudmouth support for parties like Syriza (who are doing everything they can to water down the Greek identity) come on internet sites and pretend to be more Greek than us just because you live there. Xairw polu re aplute, den prosfereis tipota sth patrida sou kai mou to paizeis kai uperanw. If I were a supermod I'd ban you right there for such a ridiculously stupid post. If you don't have the brains to understand what these forums represent then you shouldn't be posting in here in the first place.
  2. 7 points
  3. 7 points
    I had the pleasure to be in Leoforos with Gate13 during the first leg vs Brondby
  4. 7 points
    Greeko, calm down and have a Beer (no pun intended) W out threats to refs, Oly continues to prove that they cannot win. It's the same crap every year, At best, oly seasons usually last till Christmas and then it's over. Panatha has left a name for themselves in Europe. What our eyes have seen, u will never know the feeling. Just because the years of corruption is finally catching up, don't run and blame others. Have a nice day.
  5. 7 points
    Guys, some of you sound like people in the Middle East who've been fighting for ever and about everything. They use the same argument, .."you did this then" and you got away with it, so I'll be as bad and ...keep fighting for ever. Violence perpetuates violence unless one side crushes the other or an external force (like Big Brother) comes and smacks everyone aroung to keep them in order. Is this what Greeks want? Oh, sorry, I just remembered, this has happened many times in Greece's history since 1821. :tdown: So, when Tzorvas got shot, at Oly's home a few years back, with an air gun, what should PAO fans use against Roberto today? Com'on now... Of course, not all behavior is the same as with the harm it causes, but it shouldn't matter whether a plastic bottle, or a paper cup, or a chair is thrown at a player or any other person. All of these actions have no place in the sport. The players and the workers at the gipedo, and the fans have a right to be safe! The league is corrupt. Yes, Oly has gotten the better treatment, in my opinion, but how does this excuse barbaric behavior? Those who take the opportunity of a football match to get ready to fight have no place in a sport in a civilized country. But, I gather the teams and those involved in the sport aren't serious about reforms. After all this mayhem, only a dozen or so people have been arrested!! And, how come you had pistol flares inside the stadium? and, and, and.... As it is, soccer is deathly ill in Greece, and they're fighting about who's the worst offender, and other stupid matters. Many people have turned away from this violent, corrupt, and illegitimate league. In the end, there will be a few idiots dancing in victory upon the ruins.... Well done lads, well done. Tsk. .... PS. I watched the "el classico" instead of the mayhem in Athens on Saturday. I saw two bitter rivals, Real v. Barcelona, play in a stadium with no cages! Barca thrashed Real in the latter's home. Barca players celebrated wildly after each goal and not a sigle thing was thrown at them. When Barca's Iniesta was subbed (had scored in the game), some Real fans clapped. OK, I don't expect this to happen in a Greek gipedo but why can't Greek fans behave like this so 99% of the fans and the whole country can enjoy the game?!! Instead we witness primitives taking control of the sport, and ultimately destroy our team. Aren't we better than that? And, what's with the constant chants (heard loudly for hours) about raping someone's mother, wife, daughter, and the whole rival town.... in addition to violent threats about everything and everybody.
  6. 7 points
  7. 7 points
    The xasapi and the cripple. Eleos. You were, without a doubt, one of the people calling Cisse a sapaki one month into his first season. No doubt about that. It's August. Relax. Eisai toso ypervolikos merikes fores. Sanchez has played like 45 mins in a PAO jersey. I'm not saying he's an all world CB but he isn't s%$#!. Everyone wants the team to start the season rolling on all cylinders. It doesn't really happen like that, especially when you have so many new faces. As for Abeid, I think last year showed how big of a loss he was to the midfield. He's young, he's performed in this system and with the majority of these players, and he plays in a position of desperate need. He's a big pickup for PAO and we should be thankful he will be wearing the jersey until 2018.
  8. 7 points
    TI NA PW??? Holy s%$#! it's the morning after and im still shaking. Let me tell you, when they say einai san skliro narcotico they are telling the truth!!! The whole match I had these goose bumps and in 13 with my now alania from Sparti I could truly understand this drug like feeling. It was like no other! Lost my voice and my mind last night! I will be posting some videos and pictures in the views fan at leoforo section when I get back home on Friday! What a game! PAO MPOREIS NA PROKRITHEIS
  9. 6 points
    No - that is someone who is calm. Passion and talent has nothing to do with that. Xolebas has always been a hot head. He is like Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos has on occasion threatened the coach that if he is not played - the team will lose. Passion is not always positive. Xolebas did the right thing. The most famous Papadopoulos break out was this: It is the day before the start of Euro 2012 and at Greece's tournament base in Jachranka, a village north of Warsaw, the national team manager, Fernando Santos, is telling his players who will be starting the next day's opening match against co-hosts Poland. Suddenly, a hulking 20-year-old loses his temper, his cheeks turning red with rage as he hears he is not in the side. Unable to calm down he tells Santos that Greece will lose without him, leaving the Portuguese, as well as the more experienced members of his squad, looking on in disbelief. Some start laughing, only to be confronted by a fierce stare from the angry young man.
  10. 6 points
    After having my dinner my thoughts are straightened and this is how I see it. We lost together. Oh yes, Klaous should have scored more. Shakov should have. Leovac should have kept his hands from Viergever's body or positioned better. Ivic should have made another choice (a Mak-type for the tet-a-tet) or subbed earlier or not leaving Pelkas out of the squad. If If If, should should should. Tomorrow the sun will rise again. I will be PAOK again. Till the day I die. For better or for worse. And I will look again. And again in agony. It will hurt sometimes. And someday we will win a kypelo or protathlima, but we will suffer more. That is the essence of being a supporter of clubs of the people like PAOK, Schalke or Liverpool. Even Atletico, where the supporters are called the sufferers. Friday the sun comes up again and there will be a draw. With our next opponent and next dreams etc. etc. Keep your heads up. PAOK imaste!!!
  11. 6 points
  12. 6 points
    What's interesting to me is the fact Olympiakos clearly has the most to lose by a Grexit. They are the only ones raking in E20+ million annually on the Champions League market pool. For 9/14 teams in the SL this is the equivalent of telling a vegetarian he can't eat meat for three years. Oh no, not that! For the AEK-PAOK-PAO-Panionios/Asteras sure it's a loss of anywhere from E2-E6 million depending on how optimistic you are, which is certainly no small amount of money. However, with a completely reformed football federation, that would hopefully include a more egalitarian revenue sharing model from television, European competitions, etc., as well as more competent referees, a better organizational structure and election reforms for KED and EPO. Taking the long view, a 3 year ban may actually be a benefit to the entire league 5 years from now. So why not bite the bullet? There is one thing that CANNOT be disputed; the EPO & SL are two very poorly run organizations - without even mentioning corruption/bribery/nepotism, consider this: -The last two or three years, there has been at least one team that has NOT finished the top flight competition because they were financially insolvent. How can you even get licensed to be in the top flight if you are broke before Christmas?? -We know for a fact that tax payment reporting was forged by some owners and somehow it slipped through the EPO/SL cracks. -The league has gone from 12 to 14 to 16 to 14 teams over the last several years. For a time, the SL wanted to go to 18 teams! Can you even name 18 towns in Greece that have the population to support a team? On what budget?? Where else does this happen, that we can't decide out how big our top flight should be? -The SL NEVER got a sponsor for the 2015/16 season. Think about the sheer incompetence that must entail. This is the most valuable league in the entire country. And no one wanted to put their names on the jerseys. -There have been multiple games each of the last couple of seasons suspended (or never started) because of fan violence. All games involved Olympiakos. C'mon, that's just weird. -Somehow, no international referees (those who officiate UCL-UEL-FIFA games) ever get assigned to the most important games of the year. At a minimum, that's incompetence. -Attendance has been declining for years. Although this can be a symptom of economic struggles, some teams only charge like 5 Euros for games. Most Greeks spend 5 Euros for a frappe they drink for 3 hours. So I KNOW they could spend 2 hours watching football if they were so inclined. This all adds up to one horribly managed, horribly designed, horribly thought out system. And if it requires government intervention to overhaul it completely, than I am all for it. Screw WC 2018, we all saw the Iceland game, we were not going far in that competition anyway. /endrant
  13. 6 points
    Especially since he'll only have to work 2/3 of a season.
  14. 6 points
    ukworm IS back! :) Morning/Afternoon/Evening All!
  15. 6 points
    ^ will the league punish all transgressors equally? Nobody is trying to condone the violence... Quite the opposite. But to defeat it, you must first understand the root of all the unrest. If one team constantly gets slapped on the wrist, and the other gets the book slammed at it, it's only normal for a portion of the fanbase to lash out... (And let's for a moment pretend that this was not planned and anticipated by the apateona Savidi). What do you think of Gate 13 taking measures in its own hands and I.D.ing the firework culprits? Are they "Che-type revolutionaries"? Personally, I think they deserve to be there...
  16. 6 points
    Just landed in Greece about two hours ago. Staying two blocks from the stadium. The people of Athens are pumped out here. Not to mention, gate 13 turns 49 today. It's a week long celebration with hopefully a cherry on top.
  17. 6 points
    What are you talking about? 08/09 match day 4, bremen 0-3 pao match day 5, inter 0-1 pao
  18. 6 points
    Would you trust anyone who worked for the EPO to pick your olives? I wouldn't. I would also not leave them alone in a room with any valuables in it. Schuster as a player - played successfully for West Germany, Barcelona, Real (won La Liga with both!), Atletico, Leverkusen and even UNAN in Mexico! He was exposed to all their training methods and inner workings and won plenty of trophies. As a coach he coached Real (won La Liga with them), Shaktar, Koln, Besitkas, Levante, Getafe etc.. The knowledge this guy is insane. And he was rated by Girtzikis below Tsanas - whose playing highlight was Levadiakos and whose coaching highlight was Athinaikos...
  19. 6 points
    essien is on the way out according to the papers ,what a debacle ,that was is anyone accountable at our club? honestly Greekaus, Accor6,Freezer,Lamiara ole and myself could do a much better job than the clowns running things now. Greekaus would be president with board members cocksta and giourkas. Accor6 would be in charge of thyra 13,fund raising and public relations his assistant would be Pana97 Freezer would be in charge of the medical dept,making sure we don't sign sapakia like essien,his nursing assistant will be JVC. Lamiara ole would be in charge of the apoditiria making sure everyone is toeing the line and combating theodoridis from the gavrous,his assistant is ELLAS75. myself and val will take fyssas and vokolos positions as TDs after we hand them over to accor6 and thyra 13 to do as they like to them.
  20. 6 points
    Hi there, Greetings from Bulgaria! My name is Ivo, big fan of Berba for a long time now. I've been "following" him wherever he goes and I am glad he went to PAOK, only 4 hours drive away from Sofia. :) You can expect many Bulgarian fans now, not only online, but most probably at Toumba too. Saw some of the live stream from the stadium today and I must say I am quite impressed - not only by the amazing warm welcome from the fans but also by the work from the club which developed Berba related branding at Toumba, made Tshirts available for pre-order, updated the player's profile on the website and all that in practically no time! Wow! I hear that Mr. Savvidis really wanted him - Berbatov is a kind of guy that needs to feel wanted and special, so I think that's the reason he joined in, not because Aston Villa offered less cash. How did Berba do today? He seemed happy and honest to me. Although, that "we are brothers" part was a bit too much, perhaps - I know you guys don't really see us as brothers and I get it. When I go on holidays to Chalkidiki, I am usually ashamed of the particular Bulgarians that go there. :) Anyway, Berba is a different story, I am sure he'll do great things here and make us all proud. Your expectations must be quite high taking into account the 1.6 million + bonuses that you are paying. In his last season with Monaco, he got even slower with age but hopefully his other skills will compensate that. He's never been a runner, after all. He's known for his finishing abilities yet you will see that he's even more useful for building attacks - always taking the right decisions. Being clever on the field is his biggest strength, if you ask me. Sorry for the long message. Here are some of my favourite Berba gifs as a reward for reading all that:
  21. 6 points
    I think some here are reading too much not the Essien move and creating premature conclusions before the guy can play a few games. My bottom line all this as follows. Essien if he can stay relatively healthy and play 20 odd games for PAO this year ( always risky numbers with his medical track record ) he will be a huge upgrade over anything PAO had at central midfield last year. The man is a quality professional footballer Now the money PAO/ Alafouzos/Puma / my grandmother etc have spent to bring Essien to PAO is a big deal why again ? Didn't realize we have accountants here in these forums . All Greek SL teams piss money away every year on transfers. Some turn out to be ok and contribute to the team while most are garbage wasteful ones anyway regardless of total cost. In 12 months from now half the current PAO and OLY , PAOK and AEK squads will be different than the ones we are looking at today. Can't we all just be happy here that Michael Essien will be wearing a green jersey soon ? Even if its not that many games. I suppose a few here would prefer some unknown Portuguese or Ghana player to come to PAO on a free transfer and a 6 month contract just because he's cheap.
  22. 6 points
    Well just got back from Greece ti na po everything was amazing but my big highlite was going to Leoforos with the family. THe plan was to just walk around but we saw a door open at G3 so we sneak in within 2 mints we got approached by 2 big boys lol after some smooth talking emeste apo Kanada blah blah the guys were amazing. They let me and my son go on the field TRELA!!!!! There is something so special about this stadium just being in there I could feel the energy grass was amazing condition here is the video I got for you guys:)
  23. 5 points
    Pirated Pirates: 4 3 3 Rockafella Skank (scores) NIck the Greek George Laz DJ (Fetfa) J1078 Blackhawk Argy Molon Lave Akritis (vc) Red Sherriff Boxou La Mendell (c) Bench: Ausgreek
  24. 5 points
    v Croatia Games won: 2 Games drawn: 3 Games lost: 1 Date Match Result Score Competition 10 Nov 1996 Croatia v Greece D 1-1 FIFA World Cup 30 Apr 1997 Greece v Croatia L 0-1 FIFA World Cup 10 Mar 1999 Greece v Croatia W 3-2 International Friendly 25 Apr 2001 Croatia v Greece D 2-2 International Friendly 07 Sep 2010 Croatia v Greece D 0-0 UEFA European Championship 07 Oct 2011 Greece v Croatia W 2-0 UEFA European Championship
  25. 5 points
    Scumbags of Partizan. Having 2.5 mill debts, most of that Tax-debts. While all the other clubs and citizens of Serbia pay nice at scheduled time. That should learn them!!!! UEFA are just a bunch of rats. Always picking on the smaller teams. The Real Madrids, Barcelona's, Atleti's, Roma's of this world all have enormous debts. All Spanish clubs about 3 billion all together. Italian clubs 1.5 billion (figures from 2015). The debt of Partizan is pocketmoney. By excluding a big fish UEFA would set a real example.
  26. 5 points
    We've come a long way from bending over to the foroe islands twice. Let me dream lol
  27. 5 points
    Whether you agree with anyone who expresses an opinion in this article, it's a great example how reasonable, mature people should argue. ;) You can make your point, severely criticize the ideas and actions of others, while keeping it civil..... and, actually set the tone for a discussion not a cursing match. Even though I may seriously disagree with some of you on a variety of issues, I do appreciate your civility in arguing your views. Thank you.
  28. 5 points
    The day Pao would get an owner like Marinakis is the day i stop following them. How can you be proud of having a drug dealer owner?
  29. 5 points
    All these years in the Champions league Marinakis did nothing for his team and the sheep who clapped for him. Now, after he destroyed Greek soccer being a member of a criminal organization, has his team playing qualifiers and had since last Christmas to make it happen and what did he do? NOTHING. TZIGGER # 2. Only for himself! KSEUTILES OUT!
  30. 5 points
    Off course. As I am not going to Greece this year and the team is in the neighbourhood I must go "na chortaso". Hope to talk to some players again and take some photo's with two of my kids (The eldest one only likes to be in Toumba for the atmosphere, as he doesn't like football), like last year:
  31. 5 points
    I just refuse to spell his name.
  32. 5 points
    I was sitting behind the benches and can definitely recall a few men in suits walking over to the olympiakos bench after the 3-0 went in after 15 minutes, Oly noticeably dropped off from that point on, none of us know what was said but you would think the message went out to them to cool off, if they were allowed to go at it for 90 minutes I have no doubt they would have put 10 past victory. I'm not gonna lie most gsl games are painful to sit through, entertainment wise the A league probably wins out, the thing is the new dawners actually think that makes the Australian league better, I remember the argument a few years ago that Brisbane roar would beat Stoke city cos they play better football and Stoke just hoof it, these clowns of course failing to realise that technically every Stoke player was on average 5 levels above the quality of an A league player and the difference being that Tony pulis directed his team to play that style, just because a team plays long ball it doesn't mean they have garbage players, but that's the level of idiots we are dealing with here. Aek proved the sheer gulf in technical ability when they came here. In fact you would notice in this country we always go through phases, first it was the Dutch craze, now Spanish is all the rage, when Ange postecoglou was coaching Brisbane playing a long ball was considered a sin, this year it's all about flares...we go through these little annoying buzz stages. Meanwhile in the real world of football (Europe) teams are scraping for titles, European spots and throwing everything on the line to avoid relegation, whilst here the same bat s%$#! boring teams play eachother every 3 weeks and teams like central coast can lose 100 games in a row and still be in the top flight. The latest classic on Fornaroli is a laugh, apparently he couldn't score goals in Greece because panathinaikos never had a midfielder of the caliber of Aaron mooy to feed him LOL...the same Aaron mooy that couldn't cut it in Scotland ffs. Honestly sometimes I wish we could just press the reset button and go back to the 90s and have the NSL, at least we enjoyed it for what it was and never compared our local heroes to global players or our clubs to global giants, here in Melbourne we all loved Paul Trimboli for eg but nobody would ever claim he was world class or anything, he was just a gun for Australian soccer and we loved him for it, I miss those days when everything felt real, nowadays everyone is trapped in fantasy land and listening to it does my head in.
  33. 5 points
    Gekas days: Wake up Eat Score for my team nonstop Become first goalscorer in the first 6-10 matches. get in a fight with team's management/coach leave team search for another team miss every chance possible with my national team sleep REPEAT :P :P :P
  34. 5 points
    I want to see Karagounis, Katsouranis, Charisteas in an inverted midfield trapezoid.
  35. 5 points
    On February 3rd, 1908, our team was founded. I just wanted to mark the occasion and ask what are some of your memories of Panatha? I'll add mine later, but I remember many of us (some members aren't here any longer) writing, sometime in the early 2000s, that it would have been very fitting to celebrate our centennial (in 2008) in a new, modern home. We actually thought that having a new home was very possible. But, of course, this being Greece.... I grew up at a time when PAO would win titles very regularly unlike the last 15-20 years. For me, Tzigger was the worst owner. Yeah, there may have been others (some of you think Alafouzos) worse, but I size an owner by his time and economic ability. Tzigger allowed the "paragga" to emerge and as one of the most wealthy Greeks, he didn't do enough for the team, including getting us a new home. Gavroi got Karaiskaki for example. Anyway, this is not about him. But, Panathinaikos has been part not only of Athenian life but of greater Greece. A great club in so many sports, so many great athletes, so many memories. It's been part of millions of people's lives. Well, times may be hard for us now, but I hope we'll turn this around. Cheers.
  36. 5 points
  37. 5 points
    Every gate at Leoforos has been renamed gate 13, and separated by section. Classy move by the club B)
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  42. 5 points
    I honestly think olympiakos kai defeat arsenal,but they have to use the right tactics,arsenal weaknss is that they have never won a game sta xartia,which is thrylos strongest part of their game,with courage and bravery thrylos can devise a plan and win the game sta xartia.if you look at stats you will see that no european team has won as many games as thrylos sta xartia. thryl;e gera parto sta xartia.,kai meta fiesta sti thyra 7
  43. 5 points
  44. 5 points
    There is one big difference between the two incidents. PAOK was punished -15 points (3x5), monetary fine and fan ban for the incident. The happenings at Karaiskaki were not even mentioned by the ref in the official match report. It's these double standards that fuel fan violence.
  45. 5 points
    Tuff away game Saturday at a place we have lost 3-1, 4-2 and 1-1(kypello) in our last 3 trips there. IF players/coaches need to make a statement this is the game time to step up or ship out.
  46. 5 points
    Nropi einai na sou gamane thn gunaika kai na les "einai wraios o gamias ths". ( H kardia tou prwtathlith). POIA KARDIA RE MEGALE?? MAS KOROIDEUEIS KAI APO PANW? He scored 8 goals when the championship WAS OVEr and had a couple crucial goals in cup games. That's it
  47. 5 points
    Anyone who pokes fun of gavros faulures and our "past glories" needs to be shot on the spot Keep head down and build from ground up bc now we don't have a team In order to gain respect u got to earn it... end of story
  48. 5 points
    Will say my piece on the Turkish situation. I grew up with Turks in Australia right through school. We lived in each other's pockets and have been till now. Been to Turkey from Greece meeting up with one of them and his missus. He came all the way up from smirni in sweltering heat to meet me in instanbul. My take on turkey Phenomenal , the people are fantastic and I was treated very well. We stayed at my mates parents next door neighbours when they used to live in turkey. Treated me like their own son kisses hugs u name it. They have moved on don't be easily swayed the people have moved on. It opened my eyes they are like us and they love Greece and commute their for their summer holidays.Did allot of southern turkey smirni, oludeniz fetiye then boat trip back to Rhodes an amazing 3 weeks in Turkey. Respect his team Gajatasaray and watched the Uefa final with arsenal in a Turkish cafenio was one of the best football experiences ever. Being a crazy Romania fan and idolised gica hagi sealed the deal for me to have a vented interest in galatSaray. There's good and bad everywhere let go of all the nonsense I say football unites people not the other way around
  49. 5 points
    2-1!!!! Huge win! Playing a man down for a half! This one was for all of you that think that we arent good enough to beat Brugge!!!!! BRAVO OMADARA!
  50. 5 points
    I was 13, a student, looking forward to my 2-week Easter holiday. There were only two days of school left to go: Friday the 21st and Saturday the 22. Traditionally in Greece, these were the two days your teachers would dump a truckload of homework on you to make sure you didn't enjoy your holidays too much. I was awake but still in bed and determined to stay there until my mother called. Instead of hearing her call to get up, I heard her steps as she ran from the living room - with our radio placed strategically on a table against the wall - to her bedroom, screaming to my father "